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Comments for $500 Million New Ride Proves Disney Will Never Leave Florida

EPCOT cosmic rewind with spaceship earth

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18 Comments

  1. Tom Krausse

    They won’t move, but I doubt Florida will see much development (outside already started projects) until the situation is resolved and they have a non-hostile government to work with. Stuff like gate 5 is off the table for the foreseeable future

    1. Victor Nazarian

      The government was not hostile. The state government reacted to Disney management’s public declaration of hostilities against a legitimate legislative act.

      There was never any need for Disney management to risk profitable business circumstances to engage in political zealotry. There was no profit in it and all Americans should want mega-corporations to stay out of politics anyway.

      Now the state government has taken away one of the most valuable assets Disney had, their self government tax shield. Now the county can tax the hell out of Disney’s ‘municipal’ assets.

      1. Jordan

        When the governor targets one company in retaliation for what was said by the company, that is considered hostile. It would be one thing if he was to go after everyone the same, but he’s going after just Disney’s benefits and doing it at the cost of the people living there just to get revenge because he doesn’t like that they spoke out against him. This will backfire against him and he will have no one to blame but himself for letting his personal feeling get in the way of what is right.

        1. Zanzi

          I’d normally agree. And a government targeting private companies, hurting them or helping them is a something true Conservatives are against. There is a difference in this case. Nowadays, the limited benefits given to to a business to move to an area have time windows on them (often PILOT – payment in lieu of taxes program). In the 50s/60s, Disney got such a sweetheart deal that it’s benefit had no time-expiration. The action against the six self-governing districts in FL (including Reedy Creek) simply removes the unfair advantages offered 60-70 years ago that would never be offered today.

          1. Guest

            I agree with Tom, new projects will be put on hold or shelved. Disney will weigh its options to look to Eastern blue states to start some new kind of theme park. Then they’ll let the Florida assets deteriorate and downsize over the next 20 years, then abandon the whole thing. Don’t think this can’t happen. Disney already has long abandoned assets in Florida and there are hundreds of abandoned amusement parks throughout the US. I suspect all corporations are quietly making plans to get out of states that want to send our civil rights back to the stone age. The only growth industries in these Red states will be prisons to house the millions of citizens who don’t belong to the Master Race.

        2. AL

          No, the governor is making an example of Disney because they tried to use their money and power to influence the state legislature, which should never happen.

          1. Rusty Writer

            AL, you don’t seem to realize we have this thing called “The First Amendment” which gives every citizen and every private company the right to speak out to the legislature. That is called freedom of speech. If we don’t protect that, we won’t have a free country.

      2. Rusty Writer

        The only thing “wrong” Disney did was to criticize one law that was cruel to a certain minority group. DeSantis then used the power of the government to try to punish them and possibly move them out of his state. Every American should be up in arms about this. We don’t want individual politicians of either party to have the ability to use tax policies and the levers of government to punish citizens or private corporations for exercising their First Amendment rights to speak.

  2. jeff

    Hello ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
    Sure seems to be a lot more to this. A company worried about passing on billions of dollars in debt off to someone else, really? If you think Disney is trying to do everyone a solid look at the salaries of the upper level management (CEO “Bob C.) for one made a cool 32.5 million in 2021. Think about that when you’re standing in line for an hour for those $20 chicken nuggets or waiting an hour for a ride. Inflation goes up 5% Disney raises prices 10%. Upper management wants to keep those special privileges and increasing those salaries, not having to cover their fair share of the billions owed. Having paying customers packed in at the parks does not seem to be a concern-of course a tighter control of crowd levels would make the experience more enjoyable. Disney did not just exercise their freedom of speech they said they would use their resources to overturn a state law, not really the same is it? Disney wants to interfere in state policy but does not want the state to interfere with their policy? Normally as a business you lobby in the background not go in front of the cameras making that kind of statement. Has it not been proven that COVID originated in China? This is where if any place that it could have been isolated from the very beginning? Well China is Disney’s international business partner and I do not think I have ever heard Disney speak out about it. But they are speaking out about a bill that requires a teacher to have to follow state teaching curriculum for young K-3 children. Do parents want Disney or a teacher who is not qualified in a subject giving their “opinion” on gender identity. So an unqualified teacher and Disney are better suited to teaching those subjects than a parent? Maybe some parents feel they do not have to explain to a K-3 age child (why a child has two dads or Sarah has a boys haircut.) why is that a parent’s problem when children are that age? I think most people do not live under a rock and it sure looks like since Jan 20, 2021 everything just gets worse everyday. But by all means that is a choice everyone has to make in November (gotta love the high inflation, gas prices, high crime, unstable international situation etc. etc. etc). I guess it may be the power of suggestion-keep telling yourself everything is great and you will start believing it right? The current upper level management sure seems to be trying to embarrass our beloved Mickey and Minnie. Let’s make Disney World Great Again. Looks like maybe Desantis has that goal in mind?

    1. Boy haircut lol

      Are you serious? You really think it’s reasonable to feel Desantis should forcably change a company to fit his ideas. That is not America; that is not freedom. He does not have the right nevermind the capability to ‘improve’ Disney.

      1. AL

        DeSantis isn’t forcing anything. Corporations should not ever be using their money or power to have influence over politics. Laws passed should be based on what constituents want. End of story.

        1. DbB

          Tell that to the politicians accepting 100’s of thousands of dollars in “campaign contributions” from corporations!

  3. Mrs. Bonanzo

    WDW is expensive but I’m not sure they are underperforming. There’s more now than ever in the parks and that will continue increasing as the last <5% of pandemic and worker shortage related stuff returns, Guardians opens and Epcot completes more of it’s overhaul, Tron opens, etc. It’s weird when I hear people saying the old parks were sooooo much better. They are suffering nostalgic bias imo. Look at old park pictures and there’s alot of low quality and generic stuff. The parks today have a better variety and amount of experiences, and they quality definitely hasn’t diminished.

    Not everything is perfect and some questionable decisions were made but I can’t agree the parks offer less than yesteryear.

  4. stephen

    Anyone saying that Disney was /ever/ going to leave Florida are simply delusional. There is decades and decades of above and underground development in Orlando. What executive would ever say “Oh sure, let’s just abandon billions of dollars worth of investments here and start over somewhere new.”

  5. AL

    Can you please stop pushing the narrative around the bill and call it by its name? Parental Rights in Education. It doesn’t say anything about saying gay.

  6. Maker, EdD

    Time to recall hatred and racism. Surely Florida people don’t want satantic people leading their state.

    1. Not a sheep

      That’s why we’re Republican now.

  7. jeff

    Hello ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
    Disney World leaving Florida? Maybe they are looking for a spot where you can basically operate 24/7 and 365 days a year? Not too many of those around is there? Or maybe they are looking for an area where since they are “Disney” they will get special privileges as compared to the other businesses in the area? Maybe they should just concentrate on improving the following as they do not seem to be a part of a great customer experience: paying a resort fee and a parking fee, paying $500 for a $200 room so that it allows for early entry\extended hours, being able to watch the fireworks shows with hardly any room around to breath or move, paying for an extra service in addition to your expensive ticket so that you actually get to experience most of what you visited the park to experience without waiting in line for hours, trying to figure out where you can actually purchase a snack in the park (on par with Mickey D’s but twice the price) where you do not have to wait in line for an hour. This list may not be all inclusive. Some may say do not visit but others may say that if you keep encouraging this type of mis-management of the parks it is never going to change. Desantis is only ensuring that Disney abides by today’s rules (re-establish the district). If Disney management is not up to the task at least getting them replaced will be an accomplishment. Maybe in the future we all will be rewarded by a better experience at the park and be able to watch a Disney movie or program without some hidden agenda included in it. Maybe something that truly is “family friendly” like it was in the past. And maybe just maybe in the future if someone does not agree with your opinion the words hatred and racism will not be thrown around like a beach ball. Why would any protective parent not want Parental Rights in Education or maybe even expand the age group on the bill? Maybe teachers need to follow their assigned curriculum or find another job (Disney needs to concentrate on customer satisfaction). Are parents not more than able to teach their young child any other subject that is age appropriate when they feel the need? Sure seems like a select few feel that they know what is better for a child than their parent and that does seem to be a problem. Desantis looks to be supporting your rights as a parent no matter how certain groups are trying to spin this.

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