Yes, Disney World has become way too crowded. They should limit capacity to what it was in September 2020. When it becomes a choice in choosing 1 or 2 rides it’s too crowded.
I remember when we used to complain about the crowds , but we kept on going in.I have never in all the years I’ve gone had any problem riding everything I wanted no matter the size of the crowds.I do agree with Bob, having Parades and Shows and the Train running has always kept us more comfortable.
Or they could just spend a couple dollars and extend operating hours and open the things they already have. Restaurants, large theater shows, Typhoon Lagoon, etc.
The easiest solution, instead of trying to price people out (which obviously isn’t working) is to just put a cap in how many people are allowed in. That might cause its own set of problems down the line, with people upset that they can never get in, but in terms of crowding, that’s literally the only solution and I wish they’d implement it.
The increased crowd issues can be solved very easily:
1. Bring back all shows and parades. This will reduce line wait times.
2. Remove the park hopping restrictions to allow park guests to go to other parks.
3. Eliminate the park pass program, it limits flexability.
4. Provide more in park entertainment.
5. Reimplement the Magical Express Program including handling luggage.
6. Increase ride maintenance to eliminate breakdowns.
7. Replace the current management.
8. Rehire all employees.
Instead of handling the increase in crowds in that way, why don’t we establish a new norm where we aren’t crammed in like sardines? I would rather pay a bit more and actually be able to breathe in the park and not wait in hour+ long lines. Don’t make it *feel* like there are fewer people there, truly limit the number of people in the park.
Bloody Fantastic 100% Agree, please add
9. Staying on Property, have an early or late Magic Hour, this spread the guests around as well.
10. Loose Genie and bring back Fast Pass for guests staying on property, as we are around for 2 weeks normally we would come in do a 2 or 3 rides and move on to another park of back to our hotel.
11. Replace the Disney Board, clearly they are clueless.
I’m not sure I’d take guidance from the governor of Florida myself. To me any ‘overcrowding ” is tied to eliminating the free Fast Pass and virtual queues. Most people have a problem prioritizing rides with standby only queues. I’ll give you a hint. ROPE DROP.
Fast passes don’t actually eliminate over crowding. They let some people plan fast passes, but it makes it hard to do a last minute trip because past passes are all taken up. I would rather have NO fast passes at all or a very simple paid system like universal (one fee, always get the shorter line).
I would rather we limit the number of people in the park instead of pretending we’re managing wait times. Fewer people in the park = less time to wait. We know Disney wasn’t losing money with fewer people in the parks, they just weren’t raking it in as quickly as they normally do.
Nope, you’re obviously wrong. They’ve limited the number of people, they did away with FP and are implementing a paid FP system like Universal has and the place is still overcrowded. It’ll be more overcrowded starting October 1st.
I refer you to Bobs comments above that do indeed help reduce crowds in the ride queue’s
Numbers 1 through to 4, number 6 to 8 and my own 9 to 11. When people are in the shows we can walk on rides no problem at all.
There was no fast pass when we visited 4 weeks ago, and I like it that way. The standby lines moved quickly. It did help that crowds were light.
The problem for Disney with limiting attendance is that they have tens of thousands of hotel rooms to fill. Even now, they have entire resorts that are closed.
Not counting 2020 Covid, Yes over the past few years the parks have been come very crowded. YES, you can get there early and look at crowd calendars. My kiddos really did not enjoy Disney at all the last time as in their words “we’re tired of standing in lines.”
The increased crowd issues can be solved very easily:
1. Bring back all shows and parades. This will reduce line wait times.
2. Remove the park hopping restrictions to allow park guests to go to other parks.
3. Eliminate the park pass program, it limits flexability.
4. Provide more in park entertainment.
5. Reimplement the Magical Express Program including handling luggage.
6. Increase ride maintenance to eliminate breakdowns.
7. Replace the current management.
8. Rehire all employees.
I’d gladly pay $250 per day, with no Annual Pass option, with Park Pass reservations required, with capacity limited to 25%, if it meant solving the overcrowding issue.
Kids are both expensive, and optional. Disney is also both expensive, and optional. Don’t have kids if you can’t afford them, and don’t expect to go to disney if you can’t afford it.
On your bike, Kids are expensive, yes, but don’t be an idiot, I’m not talking about everyday stuff, and I have never asked or will for anyone to help pay for anything. I’m putting it in context, $1000.00 for one day, for a family of four is super expensive before anything else and you think this is OK what a fool you are. Seriously.
What about reserving 4 or 5 days per month for the low capacity/high cost ticket. The rest of the days can be as they are now. Everyone gets what they want that way.
One of the advantages of living in Orlando was you use to get up in the morning and say ” I think I’m going to Disney today”.
Forget that now. People in Central Florida have lots of other choices now. Disney isn’t worth the hassle and cost.
1. Disney has had Surveys, including ones with these questions, or years. Every day they had Cast approach Guests to ask a wide range of questions at all 4 parks.
2. Disney already knows how to handle over-crowding through the use of multiple options. They can implement, at their discretion, a limit to how many Giests may enter. This can even be done formally with an amendment to the mandatory restrictions enforced by the Reedy Creek Development agency that governs their Max Capacity requirements, enforced by Orange County and Osceola County police and fire departments.
3. Disney is not going to ask Guests for their ideas on How to implement any type of crowd limitation experiments. For starters, there would be potential legal ramifications. Essentially, of you are not a Disney Cast Member, they will not accept your recommendations, suggestions, theoretical, nor hypotheticals. In no small part this is because Guests, even some who think they know it all like this website, have no idea all of the detailed challenges required behind the scenes, let alone those that are Guest Facing.
What? Yes, they absolutely ask guests for suggestions. Does that mean they will implement it? No. Does that mean every suggestion is taken seriously? No. But they do definitely take those ideas and build off of them. Have you never worked at a large company?
Disney knows how to handle over crowding but what they’re doing is gaging our appetite for the crowds. People aren’t coming back as quickly as they expected them to. They want to make the experience more appealing and this is our chance to say no to 2 hour lines and cramming everyone in as tight as possible.
Disney incourages over crowding of the parks because the current management is focused on generating revenue at the sake of improving guest experience. Disney has no interest in the park guest. Their focus is on generating revenue and one way to do this is to encourage over crowding.
A lot of long time guests that stayed on property or buy Annual passes are not coming back because Disney has taken nearly every perk away, keep it up Disney Board you won’t need to worry about over crowding then…
Eliminate the Disney Genie Program:
1. It does not work and adds more confusion for the park guest.
2. Improve the accuracy of the wait times in My Disney Experience. Currently, they are not accurate.
3. Reimplement the Fast Pass Program and allow guests to preplan their park day 60 days in advance. The old system worked very well.
The old system was terrible if you wanted to pop in last minute. Fast passes don’t actually help the lines, they just let you feel like you’ve avoided the line. They just push the line off to other rides or other patrons.
A paid option like universal’s (you buy express for every line, excluding the busiest attractions) lets you avoid planning in advance, but the BEST way to get guests a good experience would be to limit the number of people in the parks in the first place. Let’s not normalize squeezing people in like sardines when it’s 100F outside. Cut the capacity, make people wait in lines. Raise the prices if you have to, but we all know Disney wasn’t losing money with reduced capacity. They just weren’t earning it as fast.
How can you say Genie doesn’t work when it hasn’t even started yet? MaxPass worked great at DLR, which Genie+ will be similar to.
The old system didn’t work. How many people were upset by not getting E-ticket FP because they weren’t staying on site or planned less than 60 days out? It was a terrible system that needed to go.
As I understand it, you need a park pass to get in the door and those get reserved and run out quickly, so there aren’t anymore people who didn’t plan ahead 60+ days. If they didn’t, they can’t get a pass anyway. The pass system is upsetting to me as someone who enjoys spontanaeity. It feels like every change Disney makes lately is meant to add more strictness and more planning ahead and encourage Type A theme park warriors who plan 5 years ahead and show up with a minute by minute agenda that reads llke a military op.
Nope, the availability calendar is wide open through Dec. with a few exceptions. Like, Epcot & MK aren’t available for the 1st, and MK is also unavailable for the 31st. Otherwise, it’s been pretty easy to make day of reservations for awhile now. Disney hasn’t officially announced that they increased capacity for awhile, but there’s definitely way more availability than there was even 6 months ago.
And you think a paid system called Genie will make things better… No Way bring back the free Fast Pass any day, I pay on the gate I should not be expected to pay extra on the rides as well disgraceful greedy Disney. Such a shame they have done this. Genie plus for the rich, screw everyone else it sounds like to me.
Yeah, that’s not going to happen. Disney is fully invested in the Genie and Genie + program. In fact they’re adding more and more Genie q lines all the time. For Disney it’s a way to recoup some of the revenue lost during the time they had to close because of Covid.
Universal has had paid express queues for years, it was only a matter of time before Disney followed suit.
yeah bob… To bad greedy man Chapek and his head hunter board take everything guests say, laugh their booty’s off and trash every constructive word guests have. Its a scam to make foolish guest really think they are contributing. No one was happy about the genie thing. Did Chapek listen. No!!!!!!!!!!
I wish they would have more ’24 hour parties’ or just have an after dark pass. Last time I was there because we were staying at a DW resort, the extra magic hours went to 3 a.m.. I would bet there are plenty enough people who would do an all nighters at the parks. They could even have just a late, late night monthly pass! The park wouldn’t need to be fully operational even; ie no shows or parades. I love being in the parks after dark, plus it cooler in the warmer months. I’m a west coastie so the DLR, would be awesome. Food for thought.
As long as they are making money hand over fist, nothing will change. I only live an hour away but a day spent at Disney is excruciating. Even my kids are tired of spending an hour in line only to be disappointed by a 2 minute ride. Until they expand or limit people nothing will help.
yes it gets overcrowded.
two parts to this:
1. they need virtual ques FOR ALL rides.
2. they need to make more space for people–disneyworld has lots of space to expand out. do it.
for clarity–the two biggest problems–standing in lines, packed in, no rest AND just too many people in areas. this part is more a problem at disneyland but does happen at disneyworld.
Why? A lot of people that live out of state with annual passes sometimes go more than people in Florida. Disney is not going to lose that huge block of income.
#1 – Keep the Park Pass System to limit capacity but reserve spots for “Day Of” that appear on the Pass System the day of. Returns the spontiaty of the STATE locals.
#2 – Open another park(s) in either Orlando or elsewhere in the USA. The banks would be lining up to loan the money at low interest rates. States would practically pay Disney for them to build a park in their state. Can you imagine a Disney World in Las Vegas?
#3 – Open old show venues and build new show venues to swallow large crowds at a time.
#4 – When building new rides, create them to be for larger amounts of people, build for faster flow, and build at least some with more reliable technology so the break downs don’t happen as much. Too many of the new rides are breaking down too often because they are too technical.
Disney World Vegas wouldn’t work. In Florider, you deal with humidity and rain. Could you see people waiting in an outside que, in heat that sometimes reaches 115F+? Yah, you’d have people dropping like flies, heat exhaustion or heat stroke. And with DL only 5-6 hours away, nobody’s going to deal with that kind of heat, to go stand in lines.
Nah, sometimes florider works. lol. (And yeah, I’m from florider.) heh heh.
Great point on the heat. One would hope that in 2022, that the Big D would be able to figure SOMETHING out to help cool down the que’s. Disney could “adult” the Vegas Disney and have slot machines while you’re in line to help Disney boost their revenue.
Or Disney could use some other thing to make the Vegas or Where-ever-else Disney unique from the CA/FL locations. Just SOMETHING to pull the crowds away from Orlando would be appreciated.
Parks and resorts are currently crowded, and will be for another 6 months, due to several factors.
1. Covid and Disney policies/restrictions have made so many people cancel, rebook, cancel and rebook again.
2. DVC members have banked points, in addition to current points that are expiring, and must be used.
3. There are a lot of good deals on airfare which make travelling/visiting easier on a budget.
4. Many people do not want to be part of the zoo known as the 50th anniversary, and have booked vacations accordingly.
Personally, I think once the 50th anniversary begins, crowds will be crazy until spring break. After that, I think capacities will drop dramatically due to rising prices and the nickel and diming current management has taken a liking to.
Of Course Disney is super over crowded, but Disney is a Greedy corporation and money, money and more money drives them to keep packing in the people without caring about the guest experience. Walt has already rolled over in his grave due to the poor decision making as of late by Bob Paycheck. Disney has the ability to control crowds and make the experience much better if they wanted to. Aren’t we paying enough yet???? Think about all this………………
Walt would have been worse than all of them nowadays.. Disneyland was for middle-class which has been shrinking for 50 years. $15 an hour pay isn’t middle class nowadays.
Disney then: We love it being overcrowded because it means more money
Disney now:We hate it being overcrowded because we are a bunch of woke hypochondriacs
I was just there. It’s seems a little crowded because so many shops and shows are still closed, otherwise it’s back to before fastpass like it was for years where you wait in lines. The longest wait was for rise and that was 110 min during peak but was mostly around 70. That is good for crowding taking so many people in line. All parks have same day availability. Genie and lightning lanes have not started yet. Ratatouille opens Friday and will be virtual que ONLY like rise was. I’ve been in parks at max capacity if you think this is crowded you have no clue.
Part of the problem is in fact the stroller problems, as in WAY too many strollers and stroller parking zones in the park. I mean you can’t get through a few area without getting bottle necked due to the stroller parking
I was there in August and there were very few measures in place. The parks were crowded, the lines were long, and there was very little social distancing. I remember being in line to go on the ferry as we were leaving Magic Kingdom and it was packed! The guides were telling us if there was an empty space in front of us then we should take a step forward and fill it! We visited Blizzard Beach on our last day, came home and tested positive for covid 2 days later. The pandemic is not over yet. Stay safe and keep your masks on,, oh and don’t go to places where you won’t be wearing a mask, like a water park!
I was there today and it was so crowded at Magic Kingdom and barely anybody was wearing a mask and I was so scared I wore 2 and left after an hour and didn’t get to do anything at all cause of all the lines and no spacing. I have 6 autoimmune diseases and Disney does not care about anybody’s health.
Fast pass and picking three rides each park 60 days out was a great thing. Plan day for parade we might want to see and shows and when and where to eat. All to great. Chapek had to ruin it. now crowds stand around with face in phone and kids in tow trying to figure out what to do next. Fast pass, parades, meet and greet lines were a great way to spread people out. Everything on magic band. Walk up scan and move on. Dining was so easy not having to dig for money. End of the day,, nothing guests say matter, so why bother.
as we all know,, actions speak louder than words… Go to Universal, Busch Gardens, six flags in San Antonio was a blast. OR… complain make futile suggestions that no Disney management will ever listen to and go to Disney anyway. Don’t expect change if you aren’t willing to work for it.
It is way to overcrowded right now with the Delta Variant exploding in the USA. Disney world needs to go back to limiting capacity to no more than 35% ASAP to try and keep children and adults safe. I realize they are a business but the way they have increased prices limiting the capacity will not hurt their bottom line but may keep people safer from possibility of death.
Yes. We are here now, and this is by far the most crowded I have seen in limited visits. I was hoping for Genie Plus. Not having Fast Passes available has completely changed our experience- Genie Plus would have been worth the money as far as I am concerned.
On Oct 1, the 50th anniversary, both Hollywood Studios and Epcot were not crowded. We never waited more than 35 minutes for a ride with most under 20. There were no lines for food at the Food and Wine festival at dinner time. Sounds like they expected crowds but they didn’t show up.
Comments for Disney Addresses Theme Park Overcrowding, Asks For Guests’ Input
Marie
Yes, Disney World has become way too crowded. They should limit capacity to what it was in September 2020. When it becomes a choice in choosing 1 or 2 rides it’s too crowded.
T.M.
I remember when we used to complain about the crowds , but we kept on going in.I have never in all the years I’ve gone had any problem riding everything I wanted no matter the size of the crowds.I do agree with Bob, having Parades and Shows and the Train running has always kept us more comfortable.
Drew
Or they could just spend a couple dollars and extend operating hours and open the things they already have. Restaurants, large theater shows, Typhoon Lagoon, etc.
Otter
The easiest solution, instead of trying to price people out (which obviously isn’t working) is to just put a cap in how many people are allowed in. That might cause its own set of problems down the line, with people upset that they can never get in, but in terms of crowding, that’s literally the only solution and I wish they’d implement it.
Bob
The increased crowd issues can be solved very easily:
1. Bring back all shows and parades. This will reduce line wait times.
2. Remove the park hopping restrictions to allow park guests to go to other parks.
3. Eliminate the park pass program, it limits flexability.
4. Provide more in park entertainment.
5. Reimplement the Magical Express Program including handling luggage.
6. Increase ride maintenance to eliminate breakdowns.
7. Replace the current management.
8. Rehire all employees.
Joe
How on earth does re-implementing Magical Express have anything to do with curing park overcrowding?
Kelly
Instead of handling the increase in crowds in that way, why don’t we establish a new norm where we aren’t crammed in like sardines? I would rather pay a bit more and actually be able to breathe in the park and not wait in hour+ long lines. Don’t make it *feel* like there are fewer people there, truly limit the number of people in the park.
Candace
Bob you said it all!!! Yes to everything!
julian h
Bloody Fantastic 100% Agree, please add
9. Staying on Property, have an early or late Magic Hour, this spread the guests around as well.
10. Loose Genie and bring back Fast Pass for guests staying on property, as we are around for 2 weeks normally we would come in do a 2 or 3 rides and move on to another park of back to our hotel.
11. Replace the Disney Board, clearly they are clueless.
SG
Yes
J
Agree Bob!
Tom
Yes, if it’s crowded people will complain. If they can’t get in people will complain
John McIntosh
I’m not sure I’d take guidance from the governor of Florida myself. To me any ‘overcrowding ” is tied to eliminating the free Fast Pass and virtual queues. Most people have a problem prioritizing rides with standby only queues. I’ll give you a hint. ROPE DROP.
Kelly
Fast passes don’t actually eliminate over crowding. They let some people plan fast passes, but it makes it hard to do a last minute trip because past passes are all taken up. I would rather have NO fast passes at all or a very simple paid system like universal (one fee, always get the shorter line).
I would rather we limit the number of people in the park instead of pretending we’re managing wait times. Fewer people in the park = less time to wait. We know Disney wasn’t losing money with fewer people in the parks, they just weren’t raking it in as quickly as they normally do.
Nick
Nope, you’re obviously wrong. They’ve limited the number of people, they did away with FP and are implementing a paid FP system like Universal has and the place is still overcrowded. It’ll be more overcrowded starting October 1st.
Julian H
I refer you to Bobs comments above that do indeed help reduce crowds in the ride queue’s
Numbers 1 through to 4, number 6 to 8 and my own 9 to 11. When people are in the shows we can walk on rides no problem at all.
Ahuehuete
There was no fast pass when we visited 4 weeks ago, and I like it that way. The standby lines moved quickly. It did help that crowds were light.
The problem for Disney with limiting attendance is that they have tens of thousands of hotel rooms to fill. Even now, they have entire resorts that are closed.
Jason
Not counting 2020 Covid, Yes over the past few years the parks have been come very crowded. YES, you can get there early and look at crowd calendars. My kiddos really did not enjoy Disney at all the last time as in their words “we’re tired of standing in lines.”
Bob
The increased crowd issues can be solved very easily:
1. Bring back all shows and parades. This will reduce line wait times.
2. Remove the park hopping restrictions to allow park guests to go to other parks.
3. Eliminate the park pass program, it limits flexability.
4. Provide more in park entertainment.
5. Reimplement the Magical Express Program including handling luggage.
6. Increase ride maintenance to eliminate breakdowns.
7. Replace the current management.
8. Rehire all employees.
James
Once again, what does Magical Express have anything to do with park overcrowding?!!? That logic or solution is not part of the problem.
DJ630
This is easy, allow Disney to schedule everything once you’re on the property. You go to this park, ride this ride, eat at this time
Kelsey
I’d gladly pay $250 per day, with no Annual Pass option, with Park Pass reservations required, with capacity limited to 25%, if it meant solving the overcrowding issue.
Kelly
THAT’S THE DREAM
Manny
So basically let’s make Disney a park for the rich only. They can pay 250 per person to cut each other in line.
Julian H
Oh to have lots of money, for a Family of 4 that’s $1,000.00 before anything else… you gotta be kidding me right?
Y’all fumb
Kids are both expensive, and optional. Disney is also both expensive, and optional. Don’t have kids if you can’t afford them, and don’t expect to go to disney if you can’t afford it.
Julian H
On your bike, Kids are expensive, yes, but don’t be an idiot, I’m not talking about everyday stuff, and I have never asked or will for anyone to help pay for anything. I’m putting it in context, $1000.00 for one day, for a family of four is super expensive before anything else and you think this is OK what a fool you are. Seriously.
Tonya
Add me to this petition! I would pay even more than $ 250 for this dream.
Dulcie
What about reserving 4 or 5 days per month for the low capacity/high cost ticket. The rest of the days can be as they are now. Everyone gets what they want that way.
Doug
One of the advantages of living in Orlando was you use to get up in the morning and say ” I think I’m going to Disney today”.
Forget that now. People in Central Florida have lots of other choices now. Disney isn’t worth the hassle and cost.
Guest Relations
This article is complete Horse Hockey!
1. Disney has had Surveys, including ones with these questions, or years. Every day they had Cast approach Guests to ask a wide range of questions at all 4 parks.
2. Disney already knows how to handle over-crowding through the use of multiple options. They can implement, at their discretion, a limit to how many Giests may enter. This can even be done formally with an amendment to the mandatory restrictions enforced by the Reedy Creek Development agency that governs their Max Capacity requirements, enforced by Orange County and Osceola County police and fire departments.
3. Disney is not going to ask Guests for their ideas on How to implement any type of crowd limitation experiments. For starters, there would be potential legal ramifications. Essentially, of you are not a Disney Cast Member, they will not accept your recommendations, suggestions, theoretical, nor hypotheticals. In no small part this is because Guests, even some who think they know it all like this website, have no idea all of the detailed challenges required behind the scenes, let alone those that are Guest Facing.
Kelly
What? Yes, they absolutely ask guests for suggestions. Does that mean they will implement it? No. Does that mean every suggestion is taken seriously? No. But they do definitely take those ideas and build off of them. Have you never worked at a large company?
Disney knows how to handle over crowding but what they’re doing is gaging our appetite for the crowds. People aren’t coming back as quickly as they expected them to. They want to make the experience more appealing and this is our chance to say no to 2 hour lines and cramming everyone in as tight as possible.
Bob
Disney incourages over crowding of the parks because the current management is focused on generating revenue at the sake of improving guest experience. Disney has no interest in the park guest. Their focus is on generating revenue and one way to do this is to encourage over crowding.
Bridget Barnabei
$$$$$ That’s what Disney is all about these days. Ex-Disney Store employee thinks Corporat
Julian H
A lot of long time guests that stayed on property or buy Annual passes are not coming back because Disney has taken nearly every perk away, keep it up Disney Board you won’t need to worry about over crowding then…
Bob
Eliminate the Disney Genie Program:
1. It does not work and adds more confusion for the park guest.
2. Improve the accuracy of the wait times in My Disney Experience. Currently, they are not accurate.
3. Reimplement the Fast Pass Program and allow guests to preplan their park day 60 days in advance. The old system worked very well.
Kelly
The old system was terrible if you wanted to pop in last minute. Fast passes don’t actually help the lines, they just let you feel like you’ve avoided the line. They just push the line off to other rides or other patrons.
A paid option like universal’s (you buy express for every line, excluding the busiest attractions) lets you avoid planning in advance, but the BEST way to get guests a good experience would be to limit the number of people in the parks in the first place. Let’s not normalize squeezing people in like sardines when it’s 100F outside. Cut the capacity, make people wait in lines. Raise the prices if you have to, but we all know Disney wasn’t losing money with reduced capacity. They just weren’t earning it as fast.
Jessie
How can you say Genie doesn’t work when it hasn’t even started yet? MaxPass worked great at DLR, which Genie+ will be similar to.
The old system didn’t work. How many people were upset by not getting E-ticket FP because they weren’t staying on site or planned less than 60 days out? It was a terrible system that needed to go.
Jennilynn
As I understand it, you need a park pass to get in the door and those get reserved and run out quickly, so there aren’t anymore people who didn’t plan ahead 60+ days. If they didn’t, they can’t get a pass anyway. The pass system is upsetting to me as someone who enjoys spontanaeity. It feels like every change Disney makes lately is meant to add more strictness and more planning ahead and encourage Type A theme park warriors who plan 5 years ahead and show up with a minute by minute agenda that reads llke a military op.
LookAtTheCalendar
Nope, the availability calendar is wide open through Dec. with a few exceptions. Like, Epcot & MK aren’t available for the 1st, and MK is also unavailable for the 31st. Otherwise, it’s been pretty easy to make day of reservations for awhile now. Disney hasn’t officially announced that they increased capacity for awhile, but there’s definitely way more availability than there was even 6 months ago.
Julian H
And you think a paid system called Genie will make things better… No Way bring back the free Fast Pass any day, I pay on the gate I should not be expected to pay extra on the rides as well disgraceful greedy Disney. Such a shame they have done this. Genie plus for the rich, screw everyone else it sounds like to me.
Maccy
Yeah, that’s not going to happen. Disney is fully invested in the Genie and Genie + program. In fact they’re adding more and more Genie q lines all the time. For Disney it’s a way to recoup some of the revenue lost during the time they had to close because of Covid.
Universal has had paid express queues for years, it was only a matter of time before Disney followed suit.
Yolo
Yes! Bring back the old FP system where you had to have you butt in the park and go get the paper tickets! Oh you meant FP+? Nah, that’s still garbage
Dulcie
I have no problem with fast pass, but the 60 days in advance option left a lot of people shut out. Same day only.
yoyo
yeah bob… To bad greedy man Chapek and his head hunter board take everything guests say, laugh their booty’s off and trash every constructive word guests have. Its a scam to make foolish guest really think they are contributing. No one was happy about the genie thing. Did Chapek listen. No!!!!!!!!!!
Donald Boell
Here is the answer. Quit paying the rip off prices with fewer amenities. Florida has a lot more to offer than the greedy mouse.
August
I wish they would have more ’24 hour parties’ or just have an after dark pass. Last time I was there because we were staying at a DW resort, the extra magic hours went to 3 a.m.. I would bet there are plenty enough people who would do an all nighters at the parks. They could even have just a late, late night monthly pass! The park wouldn’t need to be fully operational even; ie no shows or parades. I love being in the parks after dark, plus it cooler in the warmer months. I’m a west coastie so the DLR, would be awesome. Food for thought.
Nick
“More 24 hour parties”? What are you talking about?They don’t have any 24 hour parties.
Al
Yes they did a couple.
Jake Thompson
As long as they are making money hand over fist, nothing will change. I only live an hour away but a day spent at Disney is excruciating. Even my kids are tired of spending an hour in line only to be disappointed by a 2 minute ride. Until they expand or limit people nothing will help.
Jim Hanson
yes it gets overcrowded.
two parts to this:
1. they need virtual ques FOR ALL rides.
2. they need to make more space for people–disneyworld has lots of space to expand out. do it.
Jim Hanson
for clarity–the two biggest problems–standing in lines, packed in, no rest AND just too many people in areas. this part is more a problem at disneyland but does happen at disneyworld.
Guest
The big shows that soak up crowds need to be fully reopened.
Sue
A reservation system seems to be best; maybe that way people will plan better.
No more annual passes for out of state residents.
Sharon
Why? A lot of people that live out of state with annual passes sometimes go more than people in Florida. Disney is not going to lose that huge block of income.
Warren
#1 – Keep the Park Pass System to limit capacity but reserve spots for “Day Of” that appear on the Pass System the day of. Returns the spontiaty of the STATE locals.
#2 – Open another park(s) in either Orlando or elsewhere in the USA. The banks would be lining up to loan the money at low interest rates. States would practically pay Disney for them to build a park in their state. Can you imagine a Disney World in Las Vegas?
#3 – Open old show venues and build new show venues to swallow large crowds at a time.
#4 – When building new rides, create them to be for larger amounts of people, build for faster flow, and build at least some with more reliable technology so the break downs don’t happen as much. Too many of the new rides are breaking down too often because they are too technical.
Cookie
Disney World Vegas wouldn’t work. In Florider, you deal with humidity and rain. Could you see people waiting in an outside que, in heat that sometimes reaches 115F+? Yah, you’d have people dropping like flies, heat exhaustion or heat stroke. And with DL only 5-6 hours away, nobody’s going to deal with that kind of heat, to go stand in lines.
Cookie
Heh.. florider… Florida.
Warren
Nah, sometimes florider works. lol. (And yeah, I’m from florider.) heh heh.
Great point on the heat. One would hope that in 2022, that the Big D would be able to figure SOMETHING out to help cool down the que’s. Disney could “adult” the Vegas Disney and have slot machines while you’re in line to help Disney boost their revenue.
Or Disney could use some other thing to make the Vegas or Where-ever-else Disney unique from the CA/FL locations. Just SOMETHING to pull the crowds away from Orlando would be appreciated.
Mickeymouse3
Parks and resorts are currently crowded, and will be for another 6 months, due to several factors.
1. Covid and Disney policies/restrictions have made so many people cancel, rebook, cancel and rebook again.
2. DVC members have banked points, in addition to current points that are expiring, and must be used.
3. There are a lot of good deals on airfare which make travelling/visiting easier on a budget.
4. Many people do not want to be part of the zoo known as the 50th anniversary, and have booked vacations accordingly.
Personally, I think once the 50th anniversary begins, crowds will be crazy until spring break. After that, I think capacities will drop dramatically due to rising prices and the nickel and diming current management has taken a liking to.
rroe
Of Course Disney is super over crowded, but Disney is a Greedy corporation and money, money and more money drives them to keep packing in the people without caring about the guest experience. Walt has already rolled over in his grave due to the poor decision making as of late by Bob Paycheck. Disney has the ability to control crowds and make the experience much better if they wanted to. Aren’t we paying enough yet???? Think about all this………………
Al
Walt would have been worse than all of them nowadays.. Disneyland was for middle-class which has been shrinking for 50 years. $15 an hour pay isn’t middle class nowadays.
Mason
Disney then: We love it being overcrowded because it means more money
Disney now:We hate it being overcrowded because we are a bunch of woke hypochondriacs
Al
I was just there. It’s seems a little crowded because so many shops and shows are still closed, otherwise it’s back to before fastpass like it was for years where you wait in lines. The longest wait was for rise and that was 110 min during peak but was mostly around 70. That is good for crowding taking so many people in line. All parks have same day availability. Genie and lightning lanes have not started yet. Ratatouille opens Friday and will be virtual que ONLY like rise was. I’ve been in parks at max capacity if you think this is crowded you have no clue.
RTeker
Part of the problem is in fact the stroller problems, as in WAY too many strollers and stroller parking zones in the park. I mean you can’t get through a few area without getting bottle necked due to the stroller parking
Vickie
The finale fireworks show was packed! Extremely unsafe.
The pandemic is not over..and in all likelihood will never be. So plan accordingly. Or not. 😂
In other news.
https://insidethemagic.net/2021/09/universal-hollywood-masks-at-all-times-ks1/comments/
Vickie
Problem is @desantis. Are you in his pocket..a major donor
Janet
I was there in August and there were very few measures in place. The parks were crowded, the lines were long, and there was very little social distancing. I remember being in line to go on the ferry as we were leaving Magic Kingdom and it was packed! The guides were telling us if there was an empty space in front of us then we should take a step forward and fill it! We visited Blizzard Beach on our last day, came home and tested positive for covid 2 days later. The pandemic is not over yet. Stay safe and keep your masks on,, oh and don’t go to places where you won’t be wearing a mask, like a water park!
Sharon
I was there today and it was so crowded at Magic Kingdom and barely anybody was wearing a mask and I was so scared I wore 2 and left after an hour and didn’t get to do anything at all cause of all the lines and no spacing. I have 6 autoimmune diseases and Disney does not care about anybody’s health.
jo
Fast pass and picking three rides each park 60 days out was a great thing. Plan day for parade we might want to see and shows and when and where to eat. All to great. Chapek had to ruin it. now crowds stand around with face in phone and kids in tow trying to figure out what to do next. Fast pass, parades, meet and greet lines were a great way to spread people out. Everything on magic band. Walk up scan and move on. Dining was so easy not having to dig for money. End of the day,, nothing guests say matter, so why bother.
jo
as we all know,, actions speak louder than words… Go to Universal, Busch Gardens, six flags in San Antonio was a blast. OR… complain make futile suggestions that no Disney management will ever listen to and go to Disney anyway. Don’t expect change if you aren’t willing to work for it.
Sharon
It is way to overcrowded right now with the Delta Variant exploding in the USA. Disney world needs to go back to limiting capacity to no more than 35% ASAP to try and keep children and adults safe. I realize they are a business but the way they have increased prices limiting the capacity will not hurt their bottom line but may keep people safer from possibility of death.
Adam K
Yes. We are here now, and this is by far the most crowded I have seen in limited visits. I was hoping for Genie Plus. Not having Fast Passes available has completely changed our experience- Genie Plus would have been worth the money as far as I am concerned.
oscar wallace
Build a park in brazil?
Paul
On Oct 1, the 50th anniversary, both Hollywood Studios and Epcot were not crowded. We never waited more than 35 minutes for a ride with most under 20. There were no lines for food at the Food and Wine festival at dinner time. Sounds like they expected crowds but they didn’t show up.
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