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  1. Melissa

    There WAS no “Snoke problem” The definition of “plot hole” is NOT “some detail I was curious about but the movie didn’t spell it out for me like a character sheet in an RPG.”

    Snoke’s origin story was irrelevant. Didn’t matter. Meant nothing to the narrative. The Emperor didn’t get an origin story during the Original Trilogy, and guess what? It didn’t matter! The character worked exactly as needed. He was the big, bad powerful guy who ran the big organization of bad guys and pulled Vader’s strings, just like Snoke was the big, bad powerful guy who ran the big organization of bad guys and pulled Ren’s strings.

    It’s time to stop obsessing over these made-up “problems” and get back to the fundamentals of telling an exciting, emotionally resonant story.

    1. Ben

      Indeed people forget Palpatine was not fully explained in the original but was seen as the main baddie. No one went nuts. Now I was not a fan of how they did the last film of the new trilogy, but Abraham’s seemed to have his hands tied. He wanted to do more. In the end fans complained it felt rushed. It did, but that was due to Kennedy interference.

      1. Michael

        Kathleen Kennedy isn’t the problem. Stop watching YouTube.

        1. Backcountry164

          The buck always stops at the top.

          1. RCRyan Colson

            So you’re saying it’s Bob Over. It’s always something stupid for you dudes.So Over is at fault. You guys are slow.

      2. RC

        Not remotely true. KK had been running Lucasfilm alongside George before the merger and gave us Mando.

    2. Michael

      *Stands up and claps*

    3. Ian

      Snoke did not provide either, developed or not. t least now his origins can add a shady bit of foretelling while making the character a little more interesting.

  2. Michael

    I am sick to death of the sequel bashing. It is old beyond belief. Guys, Star Wars is predicated on throwing you into the galaxy. When a New Hope came out, whats the Empire? Who’s Darth Vader? What’s a wookie? What’s the force? Palpatine showed up for 15min in Jedi and died with no explanation on the character for over 15 years. Count Dooku showed up in AotC and died 10min into Revenge of the Sith with no expansion on the character till years after. That’s what Star Wars is and does with characters since it’s inception. People that nit-pick and complain or write these article’s are not fans and don’t have a clue what Star Wars is. The problem isn’t the current crop of films, it’s the “fans”. It’s always been the “fans”.

    1. Backcountry164

      That may be the dumbest thing that I’ve ever read. It’s NEVER the fans. The fans are the people these movies are made for. If you’re not making movies that appeal to people then what is the point?? I don’t need Hollywood elites telling me what I’m supposed to enjoy. If you want to be a puppet that’s fine. But the rest If us will continue to expect good movies for as long as these companies expect us to pay for what they’re offering.

  3. Nim

    Radical idea: you can keep the sequels and not have to make them Canon. I mean, we still have Legends stuff.
    But despite this being a good effort the sequels were ruined once Palpatine was brought back. Just let them die, people. Please.

    1. RC

      Actual idea: keep the sequels and have them be canon since they are. Legends wasn’t canon either.

    2. Michael

      Sequels are canon. Sorry young Padawan.

  4. Doc

    I don’t know. We endured nearly 15 years of knowing just as much about Palpatine and we were fairly content. Our minds could fill in the blanks and we did it well in the 80s and 90s. Filoni, Favreau, Corbett and co. are just filling in blanks, but don’t expect them to rewrite a thing of what went before, just expand on it.

  5. James Irwin

    You had me at Dave Filoni is erasing the Star Wars sequels.

    1. RC

      But he’s definitely reinforcing them? Y’all are nuts.

  6. RC

    LMAO Palpatine’s origin has never been explained but obviously Snoke didn’t matter for the sequels. This writer is a hypocrite and a joke.

  7. Van

    Is he? You haven’t really provided any hard evidence that Filoni is even touching on Snoke…just repeated lots of fan theories you’ve culled from the internet.

    Also, why exactly is it unlikely we’ll see Vader in Bad Batch? He exists…and he was already in Rebels…that sounds like a pretty arbitrary assumption.

    Is this supposed to be providing news to fans, or is it some kind of opinion piece?

  8. Chase

    Like it or not, Star Wars is about back stories. Maybe it wasn’t with the first three films but once all those extended universe novels and comics were written and George made the Prequels, one of the main selling points of the franchise became backstory. And I love it. Please keep it up, Dave!

    Also, I love that someone here pointed out that Star Wars has a habit of introducing villains in the movies and then killing them off. Darth Maul, General Grievous, Count Dooku and Snoke being the main examples. Darth Maul has gone on to get tons of back story without much complaint. Why can’t Snoke as well?

    1. Plagueis

      Yes, don’t we always enjoy seeing the back story of a character fleshed out? Rian Johnson tried to cover his tracks by saying Snoke’s story didn’t matter but the majority of fans live for that stuff. That’s the problem, lack of depth in the story of the sequels, lack of originality plus character development and care with the writing. They rushed through it so badly -Rian Johnson basically trashed all of JJ’s work setting the story up in 7.

  9. Only skimmed the above comments so perhaps someone else has already expanded on this, but hasn’t Filoni said that The Bad Batch is going to feature a very downbeat finish? Perhaps Omega is going to end up dying as she’s unable to evolve into a fully-functional Force user/clone?

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