I’m glad they are fighting back in a legal and constructive way. Showing Disney that they can’t get away with it. Let me know when they launch one against WDW for nickel and diming us there (when the perks used to be free).
All I hope is that the lawsuit changes the Magic Key pass system. They could easily remove the top tier and then give more benefits to the lower tiers with the asterisk that their limits are subject to reservations.
Just put all types of tickets into one bucket (maybe have a separate bucket for resort hotel guests) and make reservations first come, first served. Once the park reaches capacity, no more reservations for the day unless someone cancels or something else happens that increases available capacity.
There shouldn’t be a tier for key holders and another for day tickets and another for cast members, etc. One single bucket, maybe two max, as I said one for hotel guests should be all there is.
Disney would never go for that, as the days would easily fill up with less profitable (per day) pass holders. Vacationers spend much more per day. They will always be given priority. It’s business.
You have to ask the simple question, “Were Dream Key passholders permitted to get reservations on any day in question?” If the date was available, then there are no blackout days. The terms are quite clear, as explained in the article, admission is subject to reservations.
The important thing to remember is that the terms of the offer are what Disney offers, not what the purchaser thinks they should be.
Very true. Magic Keys are much different than the old program. I was a Deluxe passholder for years (in Oregon). If we weren’t blocked we would buy plane tickets, hotel reservations and go. After reading the terms for the Magic Keys, we decided not to get them. We couldn’t guarantee a reservation and that’s a lot of money to lose on travel. We are happy buying 5-day hoppers instead and keeping our visits annually now. It is what it is.
The solution is simple. End the annual passholder program all together. Have everyone buy day tickets. You can give loyalty discounts to frequent visitors. The parks are insanely crowded lately, and I am a former passholder. I remember the days before annual passes and before payment plans. The parks can be easily filled year round with day tickets.
Unfortunately this isn’t really the case. There are off times. And both Disneyland and Disney world bennifit from all pass holders. Locals do t dpend as much money per day. However they spend 6x as many days and overal spend more money than annual visiting guests. Currently there is a run on the parks but it won’t last. There will be slow times.
You can’t open an “all you can eat buffet” and then say only the bread is AYCE. If you’re open, you’re open. If you wanted only a pay as you go system, then make it that. It’s kind of bait and switch if you ask me.
Class action what? What a joke. Quit your crying and put on your big girl panty. Disney is NOT going to give you what you want. I will be very upset if I can’t renew my Dream Key. I’m for Disney. Always.
The contract for Dream Keys said “no blockouts”. It didn’t say subject to reservations. The whole thing about the different buckets for key holders and day tickets did not come out until later, after they were sold. The buckets are not a contractual thing, but “no block outs” is. I think the lawsuit has a good chance of winning, although Disney has many good lawyers and court is always a gamble. They’ve also changed the way reservations work for Dream holders since the suit was filed–an admission of guilt perhaps? So the lawsuit has helped Dream holders already.
Some people here are right that payment plans and lower tiers did lead to the overcrowding of the last 12 years. But Disney’s actions have proved you wrong if you think they care about overcrowding. Whether day ticketers from out of town spend more money per day, or pass holders spent more per year than all those out of towners who only come once a year–Disney has decided they want passholders there and it appears they want a crowded park. It shows investors they are successful. If passholders will come, they will let them. (Bad quote from Field of Dreams) They even reinstated the monthly payment plan which is the key to overcrowding. Disney is not on your side if you want a happy guest experience. Please stop being so naive.
Comments for Fans Rally Against Disneyland in Support of Magic Key Lawsuit
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I’m glad they are fighting back in a legal and constructive way. Showing Disney that they can’t get away with it. Let me know when they launch one against WDW for nickel and diming us there (when the perks used to be free).
Sue Yoo
Suggest you contact the law firm of Dewey, Cheatem & Howe,
Maria
All I hope is that the lawsuit changes the Magic Key pass system. They could easily remove the top tier and then give more benefits to the lower tiers with the asterisk that their limits are subject to reservations.
Chris
Just put all types of tickets into one bucket (maybe have a separate bucket for resort hotel guests) and make reservations first come, first served. Once the park reaches capacity, no more reservations for the day unless someone cancels or something else happens that increases available capacity.
There shouldn’t be a tier for key holders and another for day tickets and another for cast members, etc. One single bucket, maybe two max, as I said one for hotel guests should be all there is.
Shelley
Disney would never go for that, as the days would easily fill up with less profitable (per day) pass holders. Vacationers spend much more per day. They will always be given priority. It’s business.
SCOTT m Lee-ROSS
You have to ask the simple question, “Were Dream Key passholders permitted to get reservations on any day in question?” If the date was available, then there are no blackout days. The terms are quite clear, as explained in the article, admission is subject to reservations.
The important thing to remember is that the terms of the offer are what Disney offers, not what the purchaser thinks they should be.
Shelley
Very true. Magic Keys are much different than the old program. I was a Deluxe passholder for years (in Oregon). If we weren’t blocked we would buy plane tickets, hotel reservations and go. After reading the terms for the Magic Keys, we decided not to get them. We couldn’t guarantee a reservation and that’s a lot of money to lose on travel. We are happy buying 5-day hoppers instead and keeping our visits annually now. It is what it is.
Shelley
The solution is simple. End the annual passholder program all together. Have everyone buy day tickets. You can give loyalty discounts to frequent visitors. The parks are insanely crowded lately, and I am a former passholder. I remember the days before annual passes and before payment plans. The parks can be easily filled year round with day tickets.
Virgil
Unfortunately this isn’t really the case. There are off times. And both Disneyland and Disney world bennifit from all pass holders. Locals do t dpend as much money per day. However they spend 6x as many days and overal spend more money than annual visiting guests. Currently there is a run on the parks but it won’t last. There will be slow times.
Brett T
You can’t open an “all you can eat buffet” and then say only the bread is AYCE. If you’re open, you’re open. If you wanted only a pay as you go system, then make it that. It’s kind of bait and switch if you ask me.
Daisy Mae
Class action what? What a joke. Quit your crying and put on your big girl panty. Disney is NOT going to give you what you want. I will be very upset if I can’t renew my Dream Key. I’m for Disney. Always.
pattimarie
The contract for Dream Keys said “no blockouts”. It didn’t say subject to reservations. The whole thing about the different buckets for key holders and day tickets did not come out until later, after they were sold. The buckets are not a contractual thing, but “no block outs” is. I think the lawsuit has a good chance of winning, although Disney has many good lawyers and court is always a gamble. They’ve also changed the way reservations work for Dream holders since the suit was filed–an admission of guilt perhaps? So the lawsuit has helped Dream holders already.
Some people here are right that payment plans and lower tiers did lead to the overcrowding of the last 12 years. But Disney’s actions have proved you wrong if you think they care about overcrowding. Whether day ticketers from out of town spend more money per day, or pass holders spent more per year than all those out of towners who only come once a year–Disney has decided they want passholders there and it appears they want a crowded park. It shows investors they are successful. If passholders will come, they will let them. (Bad quote from Field of Dreams) They even reinstated the monthly payment plan which is the key to overcrowding. Disney is not on your side if you want a happy guest experience. Please stop being so naive.
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