As a long time shareholder of Disney and a huge fan, I think that any CEO of Disney needs to stay out of politics. Bob Chapek can be as woke as he wants, but not when he is representing Disney. I read the excerpts from the Florida bill and I would fully support it if I lived in Florida.
The bill is purposely vague so that schools/administrators/teachers/districts CAN do what they want with LGBTQIA+ topics ad students. Ad beyond k – 3. Read the bill.
It says they can’t say anything either way to 5-8 year olds. Good or bad, positive or negative. If a parent wants to say something to their child that’s perfectly fine.
Why do you assume kids ONLY see straight family? Have you left your house on the last 20 years?? We have close friends in the LGBTQ community so my kid was actually taught by ME before she ever even went to school!!!! And I did it in a manner that I know she can understand because I’m her mother who is with her every single day of her life not a few hours a week!!!! Your name in your post is perfect, its just a shame you don’t understand what it means!! Discussions about sexual orientation with MY CHILD is NONE of YOUR BUSINESS!!!!
AMEN! Just because idiots named it the “Don’t say gay” bill does NOT mean that’s what the bill ACTUALLY SAYS! People need to READ the bill and see for themselves what it says.
I 100% AGREE that instruction in schools MUST be age-appropriate and should NOT happen until the child is old enough to understand what is being taught, which is what the bill says (see below). 5, 6, 7 and 8-year-olds don’t know about sex or “gender identity” and are still trying to figure out who they are (not gender-wise but person-wise).
“Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students.”
Governor DeSantis was RIGHT to sign the bill. If only people actually took the time to read and understand it instead of freaking out because of the news media, social media and “talking points”, then they would probably understand, too.
Let our kids be kids, for heaven’s sake! Let them run and play and learn about life without someone telling them that they don’t actually have a gender (biologically they do) or that they can “change their gender at will”.
Uhh well I would read up on the definitions of sex vs. gender. (You are showing that you don’t actually know what you’re talking about)
“that they don’t actually have a gender(biologically they do) or that they can “change their gender at will”
SEX is what you are (“biologically” —as you say) born as. Gender and sex are two different things. Your gender is the way you present youself. Even if you were to say you don’t have pronouns—unfortunately, because of your GENDER you do! If you’re referred to as ‘she’ or ‘her’ in a conversation, that is the marriam-webster dictionary, definition of a ‘personal pronoun’.
Given a situation of your friend introducing a person to you – but they have told you absolutely nothing about them—you don’t even know if they are a guy or girl (as you would have it). When
you meet up with your friend and the person, only your friend was there. A typical response using only a pronoun would be “where’d they go”.
If you are referred to as in “SHE went to the bathroom” the only thing stopping a person from changing their GENDER specifically, is society. I’m trying to use small words for you to understand easiest, the same way K-3 edu is learning about grammar and sentence structure. Hope that helped, I know a lot of our 1st graders struggle with learning that—so its totally acceptable I guess since it seems as if you didn’t learn it.
Look at any medical form/questionnaire/birth certificate—not even from 2022 but 1995-2000, since you believe this is a ‘new’ thing. When it says Male or Female, it will be in the category “Sex:”.
Your ‘sex’ is defined in biological and medical terms. The root origin for the word ‘gender’ comes from the overall society.
So, in summary, if it’s just a mean society and a random woman named Trixie with hateful views stopping someone from being called ‘they’ and not medically or dictionary-based, what’s stopping them from living their life not defined by trixie’s rules she bases off of a created society and her hateful and harmful politics.
You are right, I am former Cast Member, Shareholder and Floida voter and I am appaulled by Corporations manipulating the legislation of citizens. As a voter in the State of Florida he and Disney are using their money to violae my consitutional rights and protections. Manipulating legislation is a crime and a ethics violation. He and the board should be removed for such conduct. What;s next choosing a religion for the cirtizens of Florida. This is a serious violation of the law and should be prosecuted.
Don’t see ANYTHING wrong with the Bill at all. Why should a child between the ages of 5 and 8 (K-3rd) be subjected to ANY kind (The Bill doesn’t target one kind over another) of sexuality being taught in school without a parent’s say? Parents have rights too and let kids be kids for a little while for God sake.
I feel Chapek is full of BS. I doubt the phone call ever happened. There is nothing wrong with this bill and as a person in the LGBTQ+ community I think people are using this as a stepping stone to sexualize and program young children. Kids in K-3 should NOT be learning about sexual orientation or gender identity that young PERIOD!
My thoughts EXACTLY, Laura. Kids need to be able to be kids. If parents want to teach their very young children about sexuality, sexual orientation, and gender identity they can do so in the privacy of their home. What’s good for one household might not be in line with another.
program young children. Jesus. No one is trying to program children to be queer. that’s not a thing. You’re either gay/queer/trans or you’re not. You can’t program someone. You have a lot if internalized hate.
You are ignorant. I have no internalized hate. As I stated I am part of the LGBTQ+ community and I see nothing wrong with this bill! If kids K-3 are being taught sexual orientation of any kind it is programming since they are too young to know what any of that is!
What if a kid is asked to draw a picture of their family and one child in the class has two moms. By allowing that child to participate in the exercise, the teacher is opening up the school and state to lawsuits from parents. And that child will be targeted for action by the school. How would any person be okay with this?
It wouldn’t unless the teacher took that child’s drawing and started teaching other kids about it. It’s not saying kids can’t express themselves. It says teachers can’t teach it. At that age sex shouldn’t even matter they should be learning to read, write and math. And if you think it’s ok to talk to PK-3rd graders about sexual orientation your the problem.
So if kids ask why Bobby has two moms after they see Bobby’s drawing, what is the teacher then supposed to say? If they even say “Some children have a mommy and daddy and some children have two mommies,” that falls squarely in the utterly vague writing of this bill and could cause the teacher to get fired and for the school to get sued. The creators of the bill specifically said this is what they were going for. There’s also nothing in the bill about pre-K-3rd grade. It says grade school and it is specifically vague for a reason.
Because my kid has two dads and wouldn’t be able to talk about it. He would feel left out with any discussion of families. It’s discrimination plain and simple. A kid having two dads or two moms involves zero discussion of sexuality, just like talking about heterosexual parents doesn’t equate to discussing sexuality.
Republicans have said that discussions of families like mine, or math problems that start with “Joey has two moms…” are specifically the kind of things this bill is aimed to stop.
Why does a kindergartener need to talk to relative strangers in a school who are neither trained nor qualified about their 2 dads relationship OR lifestyle? Your child feeling “left out” is NOT EVERY HUMAN BEINGS PROBLEM. IT IS YOURS.
LOL my child wouldn’t talk about our relationship any more than the children of a hetero parents would. Why are you so afraid that children might learn of the very existence of families like mine? Why should my child be forced to sit out of a project simply because he has two dads while other kids have opposite gender parents?
Jamie, with all due respect, if a child leaves the home EVER, goes to the store, out to eat to the mall, especially DISNEY, they have seen same sex couples. Its not new, its everywhere!!! So as a parent I will have that discussion with my child not her teacher!!!! I know how far to take that conversation with my child because I am the one with her every single day of her life and know exactly what she is able to understand at her developmental age. A teacher has no business discussing any sexual topic with my kid ever!!!! Just like when my daughter reaches puberty and starts her menstrual cycle, I will be the one to discuss appropriate care not her teacher handing her a tampon and telling her what to do with it!! My child has 2 parents that take their job seriously and are perfectly capable of handling PARENTAL responsibilities which includes such sensitive subjects at an early age. We have close friends in the LGBTQ community so why do you assume I need help from a teacher explaining something I’ve ALREADY handled??? My daughter would have looked at your kids picture and critiqued their coloring/drawing ability not who was in the picture!!!! Stop assuming the entire world just realized there is a gay community. And little Johnny that say something about your kids 2 dads would be the same kid that picks on my kid because she has warts on her hands. Little Johnny is just mean and it has nothing to do with 2 dads, thats just the thing that is different about them. And the world is a tough place to grow up in and you are never going to legislate all the little Johnnys out of this world. So I suggest you teach your kid about little Johnnys instead of the teacher teaching about you. Because I’ve already covered both topics with my kid!
100% agree. If he ever read the bill, he would know that it’s not about saying gay, it’s about very young children taught something that should be up to their parents.
Based upon the text of the “bill”, I feel that it is not appropriate for a school or any government entity to usurp parental rights! We need children to be children as long as possible! Until children reach the age of maturity, they do not need to be subjected to this type of information. I taught in secondary schools (7-12) for 43 years, even some seventh graders would have been too immature to understand this information.
How stupid can Bob Paycheck be? A smart person just would keep their mouths shut. As far as I am concerned children under 3rd grade shouldn’t be exposed to any of this stuff. So when attendance goes down due to families with young children who opt not to go to Disney, you know where to look. Really. what is the justification for exposing young children to this information? Who could possibly be benefited by this? I can see in upper grades, but not at this age level.
Suicide is the second leading cause of death for young people aged 10 – 24. LGBTQIA+ youth are FOUR TIMES more likely to attempt suicide than their peers. The things that protect LGBTQIA+ youth are things like:
* Being accepted by family of origin
* Support from found-family (like teachers, counselors, peers, support groups)
* Access to LGBTQIA+ mental health programs
* Learning the unique strengths of LGBTQIA+ people
All of that support has increased hugely in the past two decades, and yet the suicide rates remain high. There does not seem to be a cause and effect relationship there.
Key words being “Age 10-24” NOT “Age 5-8” World of difference in the mental maturity between age 5 and age 10 and light years difference between 10 and 24.
* Being accepted by family of origin
* Support from found-family (like teachers, counselors, peers, support groups)
* Access to LGBTQIA+ mental health programs
* Learning the unique strengths of LGBTQIA+ people
Your copying and pasting your talking points again in no way addresses my point of the disparity in ages in what you said above those points and the ages of what the Bill is about. Nice try though.
you’re mean you are your means ownership – fyi. and you keep moving the goalpost. I answered every one of you “questions”. you just don’t like the answer so you move to another subject.
Sidestepping again and correcting a misspelling. Typical. (BTW you didn’t capitalize the word “You’re” to start YOUR sentence – fyi.) Guess people dont type quickly where you come from. Please, tell me what its like to be as perfect as you obviously are. You still haven’t addressed anyone’s comment regarding parent’s rights or my comment regarding mental maturity between the ages of 5-24. Hypocritical much?
My child is 4 and has two dads. Should he not be allowed to draw a picture of his family when that’s the assignment? How is that a discussion of sexuality?
The bill DOES NOT prohibit ANY SUCH THING. STOP LYING AND SPREADING YOUR ACTIVIST TALKING POINTS. A CHILD CAN BRING UP, DRAW, AND SAY ANYTHING HE/SHE/IT WANTS. The bill ONLY PROHIBITS a unqualified, undereducated stranger, in a position of authority from drawing, bringing up and instigating discussions with A K-3RD GRADER WITHOUT Parental consent!
No it does not! You claiming it does completely proves how agenda driven you truly are. I have posted the bill here and yet you have not posted one excerpt or line that can even remotely prove one thing you and you nambla pals are saying.
Chapek needs to concentrate on HIS business and STFU about Florida legislation that does not directly affect Disney.
The law does NOT prevent the “alphabet” communities from existing or doing anything. The law prevents government schools from pushing “alphabet” agendas onto K-3rd graders. It does NOT force teachers to denigrate the “alphabet” people or lifestyles.
Chapek is a clown and a tool of the Leftists. STFU Bob!
It directly affects the employees at the business Chapek oversees. Stoop being myopic. AN entire business eps unit was just relocated to Florida – this legislation affects Chapek’s employees.
People obviously jump on bandwagons and not research things! Instead the media have decided to give false information as well as everyone who is saying this. Such as this ridiculous writer! This bill does NOT target the LGBTQ+ community! Instead it protects k-3 graders from learning about sex education! Such as the crap that is being taught to kiddos in California. I know so many parents, upset and leaving California because of what they are being taught in schools at such a young age! This is protecting them and allowing them to be kids a little longer! There is ABSOLUTELY NO reason children this young should be taught any of this! If you want your kids being taught this, then go ahead and teach your kids. They are your kids! for teachers to be teaching this and having the reigns, should be a big fat NO! This is something that should be between parents and their kiddos!
you’re wrong. The bill contains purposefully vague language. Kids that age see heterosexual relationships all the time. Explain the difference. What happens when a kid in a classroom wants to wear a dress and kids have questions? Or someone is adopted by same sex parents. Explain how it should be handled.
So you think ALL little kids should be taught about this regardless of how their parents feel? You have the audacity to call someone else “unenlightened”
How about instead, as a parent, I will tell you what I think is the same. I don’t think its right for schools to teach 5-8 year olds about EITHER. Kids that young do not need to know about adult relationships (straight, gay, with farm animals, whatever). The End.
So someone representing a company that is supposed to be focused on families is suggesting little ones 5 years old need sex education in school. Sounds wrong to me. Stay out of politics, Bob. Take care of business and let parents decide when and what to tell their children about sex.
Anyone who supports K-3rd grade being exposed to those things mentioned in the Bill by school administration needs to be watched. My problem with the Bill is that it stops at 3rd grade. And no, it doesn’t prohibit kids talking about their same sex parents or outlawing words, that is leftist rhetoric from those that wish to groom children.
Are you ok with kids seeing and learning about hetero relationships? Because that’s everywhere. It’s the gay relationships you don’t want them to learn about. Right? Why is that exactly?
They are taught those things in exactly the same vague way you are railing against your interpretation of the language of this Bill. SO again, why do you want LGBTQ to be taught more directly to little children then other “family and community”?
it’s not vague though. what happens when a kid brings in a picture of his two moms – does he get to represent his family in the same way a kids with a mom and dad does? and then will the school be sued because the teacher chose to let the kid with same sex parents represent his family? Because the bill leave all of this open ended.
I have raised a child past the age of 8 and not once did she ever bring in a picture of our family. Nor have I ever known any of her classmates doing that. You keep pivoting to these wild hypotheticals and what if’s. If the Bill is as open ended as you interpret it to be then any such hypothetical will eventually be brought before the Florida Supreme Court. Still sidestepping my questions btw.
FACT-There are TONS of studies out there that show a correlation between sexual trauma and homosexuality. Meaning that homosexuality is almost ALWAYS the result or symptom of childhood sexual trauma. No one is simply “born gay” but rather slip into a sexual dysfunction of homosexuality after said trauma. In FACT the DSM 3 called homosexuality a “sexual deviation” until the much more left leaning DSM4 came out. With ZERO change in the data some how homosexuality is suddenly NOT a “sexual deviation”. Homosexuals, be they lesbian or gay are hurting. And for that I feel sorry for them. But it is NOT AT ALL appropriate to be exposing children to a lifestyle that manifests after abuse. Not to mention the fact that because of AIDS (its STILL out there…) few homosexual men EVER live past the age of 60. You might want to check out a documentary called “The Gift” for much more in depth on that subject….
Lets talk “transexualism”. 52% of transexuals commit suicide (or attempt to). Of those who DO have the reassignment surgery-48% attempt or commit suicide. So we are NOT AT ALL talking about a HEALTHY LIFESTYLE are we? Nopers-again we are talking about behavior that leads to a shortened life span…
With those things in mind-why would there be ANY rational REASON to expose kids to these things?? The only one I can think of is to try and somehow promote “the agenda” which is not at all appropriate.
And if you don’t live in Florida why should you care? If you do live here, then why not move to California?
I invite you to read NOT just the executive statement which CLEARLY STATES a correlation between sexual trauma and homosexuality, but read the ENTIRE STUDY itself. Either way, kids should NEVER be exposed to ANY kind of teaching about sexuality until much later in life-and PARENTS should have the ULTIMATE CHOICE as to how much exposure they want their particular kids to have to the subject! That’s called FREEDOM!
DeLaunhardt, The New Atlantis is a religious “study” with no scientific basis to it’s “research”. It’s “scientific approach” is dubious and ISNT published – it has no facts or academic credit and might as well be a blog post. Perhaps cite something that is an academically peer reviewed journal and not some right-wing nut jobs made up “research”.
Just a thought …… Little Johnny asks the teacher why does Little Jimmy have 2 daddys ? The teacher says I don’t know, when you go home today, ASK YOUR PARENTS! Like I said, just a thought.
You should stop acting like your caps lock key is getting stuck on in random places. It makes your screed even harder to read with all the CAPS in half the text.
I live in Florida this is what the bill that passed stated:
The bill places limits on classroom instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity.
An amendment that critics said would’ve required schools to ‘out’ a students to their parents, despite concerns of abuse or neglect, was withdrawn.
Parents can sue a school if they feel it is in violation.
Nowhere in the bill does it require a school district to inform parents if another student in their child’s class is gay. FYI: The bill was introduced as “Parents Rights in Education”.
So Disney states their new greeting is ‘“Hello everyone,” moving toward a more inclusive statement that applies to people of all genders.’ I’ve got news for these people. There are only 2 genders. It’s a SCIENTIFIC FACT. No matter what some delusional people want to identify as, it doesn’t change biology. You are either male or female. Just because you take hormones, cut off parts, or add parts, your DNA says you are either male or female. STOP appeasing these people because the more you cater to this crap, the worse it will get. And to the Nunyrbizness fool, I’m willing to bet most kids kindergarten to 3rd grade don’t understand what heterosexual means either. There is no place in school at this age to be teaching sex ed no matter what it pertains to. And why do gays have to cram their sexual orientation down everyone’s throat? You don’t see heterosexuals screaming out their sexual preferences or shoving it in other peoples faces. This should be a PRIVATE thing. Pretty soon there will be a letter in the alphabet for every stupid group.
Nope. You are wrong yet again. There are only two genders (very very rarely a mutation will arise and someone is born androgynous). This is biology plain and simple. Chromosomes in our DNA determine what sex you are when you are born not society.
Nunyyrbizness – Your so wrong, whilst I have no ill feeling to anyone wanting to change whom they are and call themselves what they want, at BIRTH one is born either Male or Female that is a biological FACT. This won’t change even if you want to change your bits you were still born and came into the World one or the other.
Because it affects their lives, and change requires them to bring attention to it. I am not sure how I feel about young children but there are clearly examples of little kids who didn’t feel like their born gender, very early on. There are efforts to normalize things so they are included in society and don’t feel isolated. Family units are learned super early and I do think understanding and acceptance can be learned young, probably easier than unlearning hateful views. Perhaps such as yours… “stupid” “delusional” “crap”… this is what they’re aiming to protect the community from. I do think parents have the last word, so maybe any lessons should have a sign-off by the parents with kids this young. BTW I am hetero and believe that kindness is the way. Everyone is just trying to live their best life.
So “officially” Disney Corp. does not support Parental Rights.
It IS “officially” in favor of the hyper-sexualization of children from K-3rd grade. Disney is “officially” for EVERYTHING the bill intends to stop. Huh, well good to know.
Here is the bill for those who still have not read it.
Remember, it has NOW “officially” been declared that Disney Corp. is very much in favor and supports EVERYTHING this bill is designed to stop. They are “officially ” against protecting both children and parents.
The bill establishes the “Parents’ Bill of Rights.” The bill provides that the state, its political subdivisions, any other governmental entity, or other institution may not infringe upon the fundamental rights of a parent to direct the upbringing, education, health care, and mental health of a minor child. If those entities infringe upon a parent’s fundamental right, they must demonstrate that the action is reasonable and necessary to achieve a compelling state interest, and the action must be narrowly tailored and not otherwise served by less restrictive means.
The bill enumerates a list of rights that a parent possesses in order to direct the education of his or her child and be informed about the child’s educational programs. The bill also requires a school district to promote parental involvement in the public school system by providing access to the child’s studies and instructional materials while recognizing a parent’s right to withdraw the child from objectionable portions of the school’s curriculum.
The bill further requires a parent’s permission before a health care practitioner may provide services, prescribe medicine to the child, or perform a medical procedure, unless otherwise provided by law. The bill provides a misdemeanor penalty for a health care practitioner or similar person who violates the health care provisions and subjects these persons to disciplinary actions.
So here’s an Idea. Let’s take the rainbow back. Let’s ban all alphabet people talk to any school at any age. And let’s tell Disney that all kids are made by non-alphabet parents so you better pay attention to us or we will find or develop another Disney.
Oh please do! I think an alphabet people Disney World is a great idea. However, it would have to be ONLY for alphabet people and I don’t know how that could be confirmed. With out some kind of verification heterosexual might get in there.
Do you realize how offended heterosexual people are by your stupidity? Sex of any kind should never be taught in the schools at any age. That something to be discussed at home only. And before you say anything I have a gay child and even that child agrees with this law. The rainbow belongs only to God.
Really, you think this toothless bill has anything to do with the inane acceptance of a class of people that deviate from nature then demand that you accept them and their practices? Let me tell you about these “emboldened homophole (sic)” people. We are not going away and will just get stronger. You or your support of these abominations will have consequences in the future. We are just getting started.
I am very pleased, and admittedly, a bit surprised at Mr. Chapek’s statement. As a father, former teacher and public school administrator, and education development manager for a non-profit here in Florida, and member of the LGBTQ+ community, the “Don’t Say Gay Bill” distresses me greatly. It appears as though the Florida Republicans’ ignorance of, and bigotry towards, the LGBTQ+ community, and issues regarding us, is perpetuating a climate of intolerance and discrimination. For gay, bi or trans children struggling to understand themselves and their issues, especially those with intolerant and narrow-minded parents, school could be the only place that serves as a refuge via the understanding and affirming teacher or counselor. Kudoes to Mr. Chapek! You may just win me over, yet!
Amazing how nothing in the bill mentions the word gay, but of course you psychos want everything to be all about YOU and had to label the bill ‘Don’t say Gay’. Clearly if you think teaching sex ed to 6 year olds IN SCHOOL is acceptable, you should not be a parent. You cry about inclusion but then want your alphabet crap, your parades and all of the other garbage. If you aren’t included, it’s because you choose to segregate yourselves. And then you get pissed off when people have had enough of this stupid junk for constantly throwing it in everyone’s face. The fact is, no one should even know your sexual orientation, but gays have to constantly be on display. Maybe if you just went about your day without screaming your gay, people would have more respect for you.
FACT-There are TONS of studies out there that show a correlation between sexual trauma and homosexuality. Meaning that homosexuality is almost ALWAYS the result or symptom of childhood sexual trauma. No one is simply “born gay” but rather slip into a sexual dysfunction of homosexuality after said trauma. In FACT the DSM 3 called homosexuality a “sexual deviation” until the much more left leaning DSM4 came out. With ZERO change in the data some how homosexuality is suddenly NOT a “sexual deviation”. Homosexuals, be they lesbian or gay are hurting. And for that I feel sorry for them. But it is NOT AT ALL appropriate to be exposing children to a lifestyle that manifests after abuse. Not to mention the fact that because of AIDS (its STILL out there…) few homosexual men EVER live past the age of 60. You might want to check out a documentary called “The Gift” for much more in depth on that subject….
Lets talk “transexualism”. 52% of transexuals commit suicide (or attempt to). Of those who DO have the reassignment surgery-48% attempt or commit suicide. So we are NOT AT ALL talking about a HEALTHY LIFESTYLE are we? Nopers-again we are talking about behavior that leads to a shortened life span…
With those things in mind-why would there be ANY rational REASON to expose kids to these things?? The only one I can think of is to try and somehow promote “the agenda” which is not at all appropriate.
And if you don’t live in Florida why should you care? If you do live here, then why not move to California?
I already posted a link and the title of just one OF HUNDREDS of studies of the REAL origin of homosexuality, Check it out and get back to me…in other words to quote liberals: “Follow the Science…”
@DeLaundhardt-Except it’s not science at all, it is just a religious group with false idea’s. No facts, no science, no truth! Not even published. Nothing academic about or intelligent about it.
This is trash! Sexual abuse doesn’t make people gay. As far as the “unhealthy lifestyle”, the suicide is likely stemming from the pain of not fitting in. Clearly, you are not in support of these people.
Nunyrbizness… so funny how you call out someone for reposting the same comment then do it yourself. Then you call someone a bigot fir disagreeing with you. You do realize you are being the bigot, right? Live those one-sided glasses you are looking through🙄
Question: When does “inclusion” become “promotion?”
Answer: When the name-calling begins and revision of historical facts become the norm.
It is just as wrong to label someone a bigot as it is to exclude someone who is going about living their own life. Get out of the politics and return to wholesome entertainment.
What would happen if all the Christians showed up At Chapek’s office demanding rights to THEIR beliefs? There are more Christians than LGB….. Would he kiss up to the Christians as much as the “gender” people? This has all gotten out of hand. You do what you want to do, I’ll do what I want to do. I don’t “push” my heterosexual life on anyone and neither should anyone “push” their homosexual life on me. Can’t we all just get along and QUIT being offended by things that aren’t shoved personally in our faces. People, GET A LIFE! It’s Disney World/Land. It’s supposed to be The Happiest Place on Earth. Not The Most Controversial. In my opinion, the “gay” society has done too much to help change history and classical stories in life. Spend your time on getting rid of Genie+ and the high cost of visiting a Disney Park. That would help EVERYONE.
The difference is that LGBTQ people, and the discrimination they face, are real. That’s compared to someone like God or Jesus or whatever other fake women in the sky you wanna make up. Those things are imaginary and not real.
I’m not discriminating. You and the masses should be allowed to freely follow and believe in any deity you want. I’m just commenting that you’re idiots FOR your beliefs. The idea that some woman 5k years ago created all things and now watches over us and sends us to hell if we’re bad seems a bit out there.
If it weren’t for God above, you wouldn’t be here commenting on this post. Although this is supposed to be a Disney discussion, I will say that there are five words that are proof of the reason of your being. “In the beginning, God created”.
AMEN to his!! I remember a time when we never knew “the politics” of a company or actor.
And we were FAR LESS DIVIDED because of it.
But the WOKE religion/Cancel Culture cannot stand dissenting thought or expression. So now EVERYTHING has to go through the ‘WOKE-OMETER” and be politicized.
I read in another report that Disney has suffered a ton of financial loss on the “alter of woke” (see the movies “The Eternals” and “West Side Story” as examples) and that they wanted to walk away from “woke”…
But even though Cheap-ek is a supposed Republican, he has little grasp of the concept that you cant please everyone and the even MORE IMPORTANT statement: GET WOKE-GO BROKE!!
One day we might actually say “…do you remember Disney World and all of the theme parks?”……
It’s time for Chapek to just shut his mouth & take the company out of politics for good! I’ve been going to WDW since the beginning. You know, since back when we spent all that money to escape the world’s problems & issues. We just paid all that money to be treated like princes & princesses w/o a care in the world for a brief time! Not politically correct, but yes, we could tell that a large amount of employees were gay but we did not care one way or the other & it wasn’t any of our business anyway. This will be our last year since we already have a large prepaid investment on it. Not because we can’t afford it like all the minorities Disney pretends to care about (Disney inclusive propaganda) because we can. The Magic is gone! Mr. Chapik you have created a great short term profits business plan, but your decisions will do what no one ever thought possible, the business downfall of Disney Parks Division of Disney Corp.
Disney exists only because they play Florida politics. If this bill was simply about not teaching this to young children that would be one thing. It’s written so vaguely that it can be used to discriminate against these groups. It is ignorant to think any bill is that simple. Politics does not work that way.
Thank you, Bob! Stupidest waste of government’s time. What other reality will kids be shielded from? They can face the reality of violence / gun violence in school, but have to be hidden from a human reality?
Corporations period need to stay out of politics. I honestly don’t give two about what they have to say on anything other than the goods or services they are trying to sell me.
Disney is big time into leftist politics. I say tough luck to this buffoon. I support our governor. He is the best governor in the country and has done a great job with our state. Anyone that thinks that it’s okay to put this crap into children’s heads in the school should have their head examined.
Where’s the concern for children who end up confused, upset because they are being told something they don’t understand. WHY is it that people feel that children of the age this bill is intended to protect can actually make intelligent, informed decisions regarding sexuality, yet 18-21 year olds are considered to young/immature to make decisions regarding alcohol, tobacco, guns – there is NO justification for subjecting children to discussions of sexuality in the classroom.
WDW needs to stay out of this social mess. We go to WDW to get away from the idiocy of our society, and what do we find – more idiocy. It once was a nice escape, now, it’s an example of VERY poor and weak leadership!
So sad, so sad…
Why don’t Mr. Chapek use his own money for his beliefs? He complained about Covid taking money away from Disney, but now he can give away 5 million dollars to a questionable cause? How is he going to recoup the money? Raise prices again at Disney to take all the lower and middle class people away from being able to go to Disney with their kids? What a guy!!!! He is the worst!!!!!
When I was a kid, sex ed was not brought up until the 6th grade. This crap that the left wants to push is something that should be handled at home. The best teachers in the world are parents, stop taking away their responsibilities as parents and make parents do their job.
I’m sorry but is anybody else SICK of looking at that Greedy Fat Pig Bob Chapek, and is verbal diarrhoea… on and on and on….Stop please retire from the post and take the greedy board with you.
Nunyrbizness… so funny how you call out someone for reposting the same comment then do it yourself. Then you call someone a bigot fir disagreeing with you. You do realize you are being the bigot, right? Live those one-sided glasses you are looking through🙄
Wow Bob, how about you focus on solving some of the current problems at your own parks/company rather than getting into the middle of a situation that doesn’t concern you. The bill is an issue between parents of elementary-aged children and their local schools, period, full stop. Anyone else’s opinion who is not in one of those two groups is irrelevant.
Discussions about sexual matters should be strictly between parents and their children, at least until after puberty, and then schools should be part of the discussion only if the child is confused, and then in a meeting with both the child and the parents present, and only with staff who are sufficiently expert in that area,, such as counselors or psychologists.
Does this dress code of gender neutral mean no little ones can dress as pirates or princesses? How ridiculous for Disney to do this. Can we just go to Disney without the politics please.
Comments for Bob Chapek Calls FL Gov., Says Disney Does NOT Support “Don’t Say Gay” Bill
R. Wasilewski
As a long time shareholder of Disney and a huge fan, I think that any CEO of Disney needs to stay out of politics. Bob Chapek can be as woke as he wants, but not when he is representing Disney. I read the excerpts from the Florida bill and I would fully support it if I lived in Florida.
Nunyrbizness
corporations are politics.
DAMON
And what exactly is wrong with this bill? The quoted part seems absolutely appropriate.
Nunyrbizness
The bill is purposely vague so that schools/administrators/teachers/districts CAN do what they want with LGBTQIA+ topics ad students. Ad beyond k – 3. Read the bill.
Eric94
It says they can’t say anything either way to 5-8 year olds. Good or bad, positive or negative. If a parent wants to say something to their child that’s perfectly fine.
Parent who parents!
Why do you assume kids ONLY see straight family? Have you left your house on the last 20 years?? We have close friends in the LGBTQ community so my kid was actually taught by ME before she ever even went to school!!!! And I did it in a manner that I know she can understand because I’m her mother who is with her every single day of her life not a few hours a week!!!! Your name in your post is perfect, its just a shame you don’t understand what it means!! Discussions about sexual orientation with MY CHILD is NONE of YOUR BUSINESS!!!!
M.J.
100% agree.
Jarvis
So he should just say “Disney supports teaching sex and sexuality to kindergartners”.
I’m sure that is what the woke punks who work there want.
Jamie
What part of “Hi, I’m Michael, here’s a drawing of me and my two dads” is teaching sex and sexuality to kindergartners?
Gary B.
Go back and read the article. Using your example what would be banned is the teacher presenting that picture to Michael.
Bruce Kirschbaum
One more reason not to spend my money at disney
DLand
🥳🎉🥳👏🏼🥳🎉🥳👏🏼🥳🎉
FedupPapaDad
Well said, agreed
Trixie
AMEN! Just because idiots named it the “Don’t say gay” bill does NOT mean that’s what the bill ACTUALLY SAYS! People need to READ the bill and see for themselves what it says.
I 100% AGREE that instruction in schools MUST be age-appropriate and should NOT happen until the child is old enough to understand what is being taught, which is what the bill says (see below). 5, 6, 7 and 8-year-olds don’t know about sex or “gender identity” and are still trying to figure out who they are (not gender-wise but person-wise).
“Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students.”
Governor DeSantis was RIGHT to sign the bill. If only people actually took the time to read and understand it instead of freaking out because of the news media, social media and “talking points”, then they would probably understand, too.
Let our kids be kids, for heaven’s sake! Let them run and play and learn about life without someone telling them that they don’t actually have a gender (biologically they do) or that they can “change their gender at will”.
Natalie
Uhh well I would read up on the definitions of sex vs. gender. (You are showing that you don’t actually know what you’re talking about)
“that they don’t actually have a gender(biologically they do) or that they can “change their gender at will”
SEX is what you are (“biologically” —as you say) born as. Gender and sex are two different things. Your gender is the way you present youself. Even if you were to say you don’t have pronouns—unfortunately, because of your GENDER you do! If you’re referred to as ‘she’ or ‘her’ in a conversation, that is the marriam-webster dictionary, definition of a ‘personal pronoun’.
Given a situation of your friend introducing a person to you – but they have told you absolutely nothing about them—you don’t even know if they are a guy or girl (as you would have it). When
you meet up with your friend and the person, only your friend was there. A typical response using only a pronoun would be “where’d they go”.
If you are referred to as in “SHE went to the bathroom” the only thing stopping a person from changing their GENDER specifically, is society. I’m trying to use small words for you to understand easiest, the same way K-3 edu is learning about grammar and sentence structure. Hope that helped, I know a lot of our 1st graders struggle with learning that—so its totally acceptable I guess since it seems as if you didn’t learn it.
Look at any medical form/questionnaire/birth certificate—not even from 2022 but 1995-2000, since you believe this is a ‘new’ thing. When it says Male or Female, it will be in the category “Sex:”.
Your ‘sex’ is defined in biological and medical terms. The root origin for the word ‘gender’ comes from the overall society.
So, in summary, if it’s just a mean society and a random woman named Trixie with hateful views stopping someone from being called ‘they’ and not medically or dictionary-based, what’s stopping them from living their life not defined by trixie’s rules she bases off of a created society and her hateful and harmful politics.
Ernie
You are right, I am former Cast Member, Shareholder and Floida voter and I am appaulled by Corporations manipulating the legislation of citizens. As a voter in the State of Florida he and Disney are using their money to violae my consitutional rights and protections. Manipulating legislation is a crime and a ethics violation. He and the board should be removed for such conduct. What;s next choosing a religion for the cirtizens of Florida. This is a serious violation of the law and should be prosecuted.
Kevin
Don’t see ANYTHING wrong with the Bill at all. Why should a child between the ages of 5 and 8 (K-3rd) be subjected to ANY kind (The Bill doesn’t target one kind over another) of sexuality being taught in school without a parent’s say? Parents have rights too and let kids be kids for a little while for God sake.
Laura
I feel Chapek is full of BS. I doubt the phone call ever happened. There is nothing wrong with this bill and as a person in the LGBTQ+ community I think people are using this as a stepping stone to sexualize and program young children. Kids in K-3 should NOT be learning about sexual orientation or gender identity that young PERIOD!
Kevin
My thoughts EXACTLY, Laura. Kids need to be able to be kids. If parents want to teach their very young children about sexuality, sexual orientation, and gender identity they can do so in the privacy of their home. What’s good for one household might not be in line with another.
Nunyrbizness
program young children. Jesus. No one is trying to program children to be queer. that’s not a thing. You’re either gay/queer/trans or you’re not. You can’t program someone. You have a lot if internalized hate.
Laura
You are ignorant. I have no internalized hate. As I stated I am part of the LGBTQ+ community and I see nothing wrong with this bill! If kids K-3 are being taught sexual orientation of any kind it is programming since they are too young to know what any of that is!
Jamie
What if a kid is asked to draw a picture of their family and one child in the class has two moms. By allowing that child to participate in the exercise, the teacher is opening up the school and state to lawsuits from parents. And that child will be targeted for action by the school. How would any person be okay with this?
Eric94
Absolutely false. A child can draw anything they want to but the teacher can’t pontificate either way. Good or bad. No condemnation or endorsement.
Flamey
It wouldn’t unless the teacher took that child’s drawing and started teaching other kids about it. It’s not saying kids can’t express themselves. It says teachers can’t teach it. At that age sex shouldn’t even matter they should be learning to read, write and math. And if you think it’s ok to talk to PK-3rd graders about sexual orientation your the problem.
Jamie
So if kids ask why Bobby has two moms after they see Bobby’s drawing, what is the teacher then supposed to say? If they even say “Some children have a mommy and daddy and some children have two mommies,” that falls squarely in the utterly vague writing of this bill and could cause the teacher to get fired and for the school to get sued. The creators of the bill specifically said this is what they were going for. There’s also nothing in the bill about pre-K-3rd grade. It says grade school and it is specifically vague for a reason.
Ohlongjohnson
Nope. You can be adolescent and just confused or mesmerized by a fad. As in top surgery on 14 year olds and their life is destroyed.
Jamie
Because my kid has two dads and wouldn’t be able to talk about it. He would feel left out with any discussion of families. It’s discrimination plain and simple. A kid having two dads or two moms involves zero discussion of sexuality, just like talking about heterosexual parents doesn’t equate to discussing sexuality.
Laura
Discussing your family is one thing. Having curriculum teaching it is completely different!
Nunyrbizness
Discussion FAMILY is in curriculum Laura.
walt
No its not – just because you say it is does not make it so.
Jamie
Republicans have said that discussions of families like mine, or math problems that start with “Joey has two moms…” are specifically the kind of things this bill is aimed to stop.
cd
Agreed 100%!!
R
Why does a kindergartener need to talk to relative strangers in a school who are neither trained nor qualified about their 2 dads relationship OR lifestyle? Your child feeling “left out” is NOT EVERY HUMAN BEINGS PROBLEM. IT IS YOURS.
Jamie
LOL my child wouldn’t talk about our relationship any more than the children of a hetero parents would. Why are you so afraid that children might learn of the very existence of families like mine? Why should my child be forced to sit out of a project simply because he has two dads while other kids have opposite gender parents?
Kevin
Except no one is forcing your child to sit out of any project.
Kevin
And if they were, I am sure you would sue the school. See, the Bill works both ways.
Robert
I really think you’re not understanding this bill.
Parent who parents!
Jamie, with all due respect, if a child leaves the home EVER, goes to the store, out to eat to the mall, especially DISNEY, they have seen same sex couples. Its not new, its everywhere!!! So as a parent I will have that discussion with my child not her teacher!!!! I know how far to take that conversation with my child because I am the one with her every single day of her life and know exactly what she is able to understand at her developmental age. A teacher has no business discussing any sexual topic with my kid ever!!!! Just like when my daughter reaches puberty and starts her menstrual cycle, I will be the one to discuss appropriate care not her teacher handing her a tampon and telling her what to do with it!! My child has 2 parents that take their job seriously and are perfectly capable of handling PARENTAL responsibilities which includes such sensitive subjects at an early age. We have close friends in the LGBTQ community so why do you assume I need help from a teacher explaining something I’ve ALREADY handled??? My daughter would have looked at your kids picture and critiqued their coloring/drawing ability not who was in the picture!!!! Stop assuming the entire world just realized there is a gay community. And little Johnny that say something about your kids 2 dads would be the same kid that picks on my kid because she has warts on her hands. Little Johnny is just mean and it has nothing to do with 2 dads, thats just the thing that is different about them. And the world is a tough place to grow up in and you are never going to legislate all the little Johnnys out of this world. So I suggest you teach your kid about little Johnnys instead of the teacher teaching about you. Because I’ve already covered both topics with my kid!
Susan
Absolutely 100% agree with you.
M.J.
100% agree. If he ever read the bill, he would know that it’s not about saying gay, it’s about very young children taught something that should be up to their parents.
Tom
Based upon the text of the “bill”, I feel that it is not appropriate for a school or any government entity to usurp parental rights! We need children to be children as long as possible! Until children reach the age of maturity, they do not need to be subjected to this type of information. I taught in secondary schools (7-12) for 43 years, even some seventh graders would have been too immature to understand this information.
Deb
How stupid can Bob Paycheck be? A smart person just would keep their mouths shut. As far as I am concerned children under 3rd grade shouldn’t be exposed to any of this stuff. So when attendance goes down due to families with young children who opt not to go to Disney, you know where to look. Really. what is the justification for exposing young children to this information? Who could possibly be benefited by this? I can see in upper grades, but not at this age level.
Nunyrbizness
Young children see heterosexual relationships all the time in Disney content across the board. Explain the difference to me.
Laura
The difference is they aren’t teaching that content in school!! A parent can teach what they want but not a school!!
Nunyrbizness
Suicide is the second leading cause of death for young people aged 10 – 24. LGBTQIA+ youth are FOUR TIMES more likely to attempt suicide than their peers. The things that protect LGBTQIA+ youth are things like:
* Being accepted by family of origin
* Support from found-family (like teachers, counselors, peers, support groups)
* Access to LGBTQIA+ mental health programs
* Learning the unique strengths of LGBTQIA+ people
Greg
All of that support has increased hugely in the past two decades, and yet the suicide rates remain high. There does not seem to be a cause and effect relationship there.
Kevin
Key words being “Age 10-24” NOT “Age 5-8” World of difference in the mental maturity between age 5 and age 10 and light years difference between 10 and 24.
Nunyrbizness
* Being accepted by family of origin
* Support from found-family (like teachers, counselors, peers, support groups)
* Access to LGBTQIA+ mental health programs
* Learning the unique strengths of LGBTQIA+ people
Kevin
Your copying and pasting your talking points again in no way addresses my point of the disparity in ages in what you said above those points and the ages of what the Bill is about. Nice try though.
Nunyrbizness
you’re mean you are your means ownership – fyi. and you keep moving the goalpost. I answered every one of you “questions”. you just don’t like the answer so you move to another subject.
Kevin
Sidestepping again and correcting a misspelling. Typical. (BTW you didn’t capitalize the word “You’re” to start YOUR sentence – fyi.) Guess people dont type quickly where you come from. Please, tell me what its like to be as perfect as you obviously are. You still haven’t addressed anyone’s comment regarding parent’s rights or my comment regarding mental maturity between the ages of 5-24. Hypocritical much?
Jamie
My child is 4 and has two dads. Should he not be allowed to draw a picture of his family when that’s the assignment? How is that a discussion of sexuality?
R
The bill DOES NOT prohibit ANY SUCH THING. STOP LYING AND SPREADING YOUR ACTIVIST TALKING POINTS. A CHILD CAN BRING UP, DRAW, AND SAY ANYTHING HE/SHE/IT WANTS. The bill ONLY PROHIBITS a unqualified, undereducated stranger, in a position of authority from drawing, bringing up and instigating discussions with A K-3RD GRADER WITHOUT Parental consent!
Nunyrbizness
YES IT DOES – read the bill.
R
No it does not! You claiming it does completely proves how agenda driven you truly are. I have posted the bill here and yet you have not posted one excerpt or line that can even remotely prove one thing you and you nambla pals are saying.
Eric
How about getting help for their disfiria? Nah, why address that, their 5 slap a dress on them.
cheryl
Do you really want strangers teaching your child this stuff? Also I think it says any type not just ‘Gay”.
walt
CORRECT!!! ANY
Sue
The only answer is Jesus. When they find him those problems go away.
M.J.
100% correct
Parent who parents!
These same kids see same sex couples at the grocery store, the mall, restaurants AND Disney. Why do you act like this is new news?
FL-Dad
Chapek needs to concentrate on HIS business and STFU about Florida legislation that does not directly affect Disney.
The law does NOT prevent the “alphabet” communities from existing or doing anything. The law prevents government schools from pushing “alphabet” agendas onto K-3rd graders. It does NOT force teachers to denigrate the “alphabet” people or lifestyles.
Chapek is a clown and a tool of the Leftists. STFU Bob!
Nunyrbizness
It directly affects the employees at the business Chapek oversees. Stoop being myopic. AN entire business eps unit was just relocated to Florida – this legislation affects Chapek’s employees.
Laura
Unless his employees are in grades K-3 it doesn’t affect them at all!
Nunyrbizness
Employees have children Laura. And it does affect the LGBTQIA community when politicians try to erase their existence.
Laura
Noone is erasing anyone’s existence.
Nunyrbizness
you haven’t read the bill.
Laura
Yes I have! The entire thing not just talking points on a blog. Please educate yourself.
M.J.
100% right
Just stop already
People obviously jump on bandwagons and not research things! Instead the media have decided to give false information as well as everyone who is saying this. Such as this ridiculous writer! This bill does NOT target the LGBTQ+ community! Instead it protects k-3 graders from learning about sex education! Such as the crap that is being taught to kiddos in California. I know so many parents, upset and leaving California because of what they are being taught in schools at such a young age! This is protecting them and allowing them to be kids a little longer! There is ABSOLUTELY NO reason children this young should be taught any of this! If you want your kids being taught this, then go ahead and teach your kids. They are your kids! for teachers to be teaching this and having the reigns, should be a big fat NO! This is something that should be between parents and their kiddos!
Nunyrbizness
you’re wrong. The bill contains purposefully vague language. Kids that age see heterosexual relationships all the time. Explain the difference. What happens when a kid in a classroom wants to wear a dress and kids have questions? Or someone is adopted by same sex parents. Explain how it should be handled.
Laura
The their parents should handle questions! Not a teacher!!
Nunyrbizness
SO when a kid asks their teacher, who they trust, the teacher should just turn them away? Wow. You’re very enlightened Laura.
LauraLaura
Kids K-3 dint know to ask these questions. Grow up
Kevin
So you think ALL little kids should be taught about this regardless of how their parents feel? You have the audacity to call someone else “unenlightened”
Nunyrbizness
Explain to me the difference between kids learning about a heterosexual marriage and family and then a family with sam sex parents. Go
Kevin
How about instead, as a parent, I will tell you what I think is the same. I don’t think its right for schools to teach 5-8 year olds about EITHER. Kids that young do not need to know about adult relationships (straight, gay, with farm animals, whatever). The End.
Nunyrbizness
so kids can’t learn about family at all in schools. got it.
Kevin
YOU’RE either being purposefully obtuse or willfully ignorant. Which one is it?
walt
TOUCHE!!!
R
@ just stop already you are dead on!
Carol
So someone representing a company that is supposed to be focused on families is suggesting little ones 5 years old need sex education in school. Sounds wrong to me. Stay out of politics, Bob. Take care of business and let parents decide when and what to tell their children about sex.
Nunyrbizness
you clearly haven’t read the bill.
Kevin
And in reading your comments its obvious you haven’t read the Bill either.
Nunyrbizness
I have read the bill in its entirety. I also understand politics.
Kevin
You understand YOUR side of politics. There I fixed your sentence for you.
walt
Too late – Muppet babies has already introduced the topic of trqansgenderism with Gonzo dressing as a princess in one episode.
david
Nah, Bugs Bunny was dressing up as a woman decades before Gonzo.
Eric
Anyone who supports K-3rd grade being exposed to those things mentioned in the Bill by school administration needs to be watched. My problem with the Bill is that it stops at 3rd grade. And no, it doesn’t prohibit kids talking about their same sex parents or outlawing words, that is leftist rhetoric from those that wish to groom children.
Nunyrbizness
Are you ok with kids seeing and learning about hetero relationships? Because that’s everywhere. It’s the gay relationships you don’t want them to learn about. Right? Why is that exactly?
Eric
I don’t want either taught in k to 3rd, why do you want that material prwsented to those ages? Why exactly?
Nunyrbizness
Kids those ages learn about family and community all the time.
Kevin
They are taught those things in exactly the same vague way you are railing against your interpretation of the language of this Bill. SO again, why do you want LGBTQ to be taught more directly to little children then other “family and community”?
Nunyrbizness
it’s not vague though. what happens when a kid brings in a picture of his two moms – does he get to represent his family in the same way a kids with a mom and dad does? and then will the school be sued because the teacher chose to let the kid with same sex parents represent his family? Because the bill leave all of this open ended.
Kevin
I have raised a child past the age of 8 and not once did she ever bring in a picture of our family. Nor have I ever known any of her classmates doing that. You keep pivoting to these wild hypotheticals and what if’s. If the Bill is as open ended as you interpret it to be then any such hypothetical will eventually be brought before the Florida Supreme Court. Still sidestepping my questions btw.
DeLaunhardt
Ok-We KNEW the WOKE would get upset.
FACT-There are TONS of studies out there that show a correlation between sexual trauma and homosexuality. Meaning that homosexuality is almost ALWAYS the result or symptom of childhood sexual trauma. No one is simply “born gay” but rather slip into a sexual dysfunction of homosexuality after said trauma. In FACT the DSM 3 called homosexuality a “sexual deviation” until the much more left leaning DSM4 came out. With ZERO change in the data some how homosexuality is suddenly NOT a “sexual deviation”. Homosexuals, be they lesbian or gay are hurting. And for that I feel sorry for them. But it is NOT AT ALL appropriate to be exposing children to a lifestyle that manifests after abuse. Not to mention the fact that because of AIDS (its STILL out there…) few homosexual men EVER live past the age of 60. You might want to check out a documentary called “The Gift” for much more in depth on that subject….
Lets talk “transexualism”. 52% of transexuals commit suicide (or attempt to). Of those who DO have the reassignment surgery-48% attempt or commit suicide. So we are NOT AT ALL talking about a HEALTHY LIFESTYLE are we? Nopers-again we are talking about behavior that leads to a shortened life span…
With those things in mind-why would there be ANY rational REASON to expose kids to these things?? The only one I can think of is to try and somehow promote “the agenda” which is not at all appropriate.
And if you don’t live in Florida why should you care? If you do live here, then why not move to California?
Nunyrbizness
Please link me to your research. Thanks.
DeLaunhardt
I invite you to read NOT just the executive statement which CLEARLY STATES a correlation between sexual trauma and homosexuality, but read the ENTIRE STUDY itself. Either way, kids should NEVER be exposed to ANY kind of teaching about sexuality until much later in life-and PARENTS should have the ULTIMATE CHOICE as to how much exposure they want their particular kids to have to the subject! That’s called FREEDOM!
DeLaunhardt
Since the link seems to be an issue with the moderators: Look up “The New Atlantis Special report Sexuality and Gender”.
IHateStupidPeople
DeLaunhardt, The New Atlantis is a religious “study” with no scientific basis to it’s “research”. It’s “scientific approach” is dubious and ISNT published – it has no facts or academic credit and might as well be a blog post. Perhaps cite something that is an academically peer reviewed journal and not some right-wing nut jobs made up “research”.
mike
Just a thought …… Little Johnny asks the teacher why does Little Jimmy have 2 daddys ? The teacher says I don’t know, when you go home today, ASK YOUR PARENTS! Like I said, just a thought.
Hillary C
Think we found someone who got the shocker from the family priest as a kid…..and liked it.
david
> If you do live here, then why not move to California?
Nope, we’re all full up out here on the coast. Try Indiana or Ohio instead. I hear they are lovely in the summer.
stewart
You should stop acting like your caps lock key is getting stuck on in random places. It makes your screed even harder to read with all the CAPS in half the text.
Jan
I live in Florida this is what the bill that passed stated:
The bill places limits on classroom instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity.
An amendment that critics said would’ve required schools to ‘out’ a students to their parents, despite concerns of abuse or neglect, was withdrawn.
Parents can sue a school if they feel it is in violation.
Nowhere in the bill does it require a school district to inform parents if another student in their child’s class is gay. FYI: The bill was introduced as “Parents Rights in Education”.
Eric94
+1
Sickofthecrap
So Disney states their new greeting is ‘“Hello everyone,” moving toward a more inclusive statement that applies to people of all genders.’ I’ve got news for these people. There are only 2 genders. It’s a SCIENTIFIC FACT. No matter what some delusional people want to identify as, it doesn’t change biology. You are either male or female. Just because you take hormones, cut off parts, or add parts, your DNA says you are either male or female. STOP appeasing these people because the more you cater to this crap, the worse it will get. And to the Nunyrbizness fool, I’m willing to bet most kids kindergarten to 3rd grade don’t understand what heterosexual means either. There is no place in school at this age to be teaching sex ed no matter what it pertains to. And why do gays have to cram their sexual orientation down everyone’s throat? You don’t see heterosexuals screaming out their sexual preferences or shoving it in other peoples faces. This should be a PRIVATE thing. Pretty soon there will be a letter in the alphabet for every stupid group.
Nunyrbizness
gender is a social construct.
Sickofthecrap
Gender is biological. NOTHING ELSE. No matter how you psychos want to rewrite science.
Nunyrbizness
you’re wrong. gender is a social construct.
Sickofthecrap
Maybe in your warped world. But that doesn’t change science no matter what you believe.
Kevin
Nope. You are wrong yet again. There are only two genders (very very rarely a mutation will arise and someone is born androgynous). This is biology plain and simple. Chromosomes in our DNA determine what sex you are when you are born not society.
Julian H
Nunyyrbizness – Your so wrong, whilst I have no ill feeling to anyone wanting to change whom they are and call themselves what they want, at BIRTH one is born either Male or Female that is a biological FACT. This won’t change even if you want to change your bits you were still born and came into the World one or the other.
Parent who parents!
Gender is NOT A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT!! IT IS X AND Y CHROMOSOMES!!! GO BACK TO BIOLOGY 101!!!
JMH
Because it affects their lives, and change requires them to bring attention to it. I am not sure how I feel about young children but there are clearly examples of little kids who didn’t feel like their born gender, very early on. There are efforts to normalize things so they are included in society and don’t feel isolated. Family units are learned super early and I do think understanding and acceptance can be learned young, probably easier than unlearning hateful views. Perhaps such as yours… “stupid” “delusional” “crap”… this is what they’re aiming to protect the community from. I do think parents have the last word, so maybe any lessons should have a sign-off by the parents with kids this young. BTW I am hetero and believe that kindness is the way. Everyone is just trying to live their best life.
Rob
So “officially” Disney Corp. does not support Parental Rights.
It IS “officially” in favor of the hyper-sexualization of children from K-3rd grade. Disney is “officially” for EVERYTHING the bill intends to stop. Huh, well good to know.
Here is the bill for those who still have not read it.
Remember, it has NOW “officially” been declared that Disney Corp. is very much in favor and supports EVERYTHING this bill is designed to stop. They are “officially ” against protecting both children and parents.
The bill establishes the “Parents’ Bill of Rights.” The bill provides that the state, its political subdivisions, any other governmental entity, or other institution may not infringe upon the fundamental rights of a parent to direct the upbringing, education, health care, and mental health of a minor child. If those entities infringe upon a parent’s fundamental right, they must demonstrate that the action is reasonable and necessary to achieve a compelling state interest, and the action must be narrowly tailored and not otherwise served by less restrictive means.
The bill enumerates a list of rights that a parent possesses in order to direct the education of his or her child and be informed about the child’s educational programs. The bill also requires a school district to promote parental involvement in the public school system by providing access to the child’s studies and instructional materials while recognizing a parent’s right to withdraw the child from objectionable portions of the school’s curriculum.
The bill further requires a parent’s permission before a health care practitioner may provide services, prescribe medicine to the child, or perform a medical procedure, unless otherwise provided by law. The bill provides a misdemeanor penalty for a health care practitioner or similar person who violates the health care provisions and subjects these persons to disciplinary actions.
Nunyrbizness
this bill is 7 pages long – this is not the full contents of the bill.
Phil Davis
So here’s an Idea. Let’s take the rainbow back. Let’s ban all alphabet people talk to any school at any age. And let’s tell Disney that all kids are made by non-alphabet parents so you better pay attention to us or we will find or develop another Disney.
R
Oh please do! I think an alphabet people Disney World is a great idea. However, it would have to be ONLY for alphabet people and I don’t know how that could be confirmed. With out some kind of verification heterosexual might get in there.
Phil Davis
I agree, completely separate them from society.
Sue
Do you realize how offended heterosexual people are by your stupidity? Sex of any kind should never be taught in the schools at any age. That something to be discussed at home only. And before you say anything I have a gay child and even that child agrees with this law. The rainbow belongs only to God.
Kevin
Oh look – it’s another hypocritical Liberal who defames people who don’t agree with him 100%
Phil Davis
Really, you think this toothless bill has anything to do with the inane acceptance of a class of people that deviate from nature then demand that you accept them and their practices? Let me tell you about these “emboldened homophole (sic)” people. We are not going away and will just get stronger. You or your support of these abominations will have consequences in the future. We are just getting started.
princeofprussia
I am very pleased, and admittedly, a bit surprised at Mr. Chapek’s statement. As a father, former teacher and public school administrator, and education development manager for a non-profit here in Florida, and member of the LGBTQ+ community, the “Don’t Say Gay Bill” distresses me greatly. It appears as though the Florida Republicans’ ignorance of, and bigotry towards, the LGBTQ+ community, and issues regarding us, is perpetuating a climate of intolerance and discrimination. For gay, bi or trans children struggling to understand themselves and their issues, especially those with intolerant and narrow-minded parents, school could be the only place that serves as a refuge via the understanding and affirming teacher or counselor. Kudoes to Mr. Chapek! You may just win me over, yet!
Nunyrbizness
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Sickofthecrap
Amazing how nothing in the bill mentions the word gay, but of course you psychos want everything to be all about YOU and had to label the bill ‘Don’t say Gay’. Clearly if you think teaching sex ed to 6 year olds IN SCHOOL is acceptable, you should not be a parent. You cry about inclusion but then want your alphabet crap, your parades and all of the other garbage. If you aren’t included, it’s because you choose to segregate yourselves. And then you get pissed off when people have had enough of this stupid junk for constantly throwing it in everyone’s face. The fact is, no one should even know your sexual orientation, but gays have to constantly be on display. Maybe if you just went about your day without screaming your gay, people would have more respect for you.
Gary
Obviously, you haven’t read the bill and listened to the debate, in the legislature, about said bill!
Sue
I wouldn’t want my children nor my grandchildren taught by someone like you.
DeLaunhardt
Ok-We KNEW the WOKE would get upset.
FACT-There are TONS of studies out there that show a correlation between sexual trauma and homosexuality. Meaning that homosexuality is almost ALWAYS the result or symptom of childhood sexual trauma. No one is simply “born gay” but rather slip into a sexual dysfunction of homosexuality after said trauma. In FACT the DSM 3 called homosexuality a “sexual deviation” until the much more left leaning DSM4 came out. With ZERO change in the data some how homosexuality is suddenly NOT a “sexual deviation”. Homosexuals, be they lesbian or gay are hurting. And for that I feel sorry for them. But it is NOT AT ALL appropriate to be exposing children to a lifestyle that manifests after abuse. Not to mention the fact that because of AIDS (its STILL out there…) few homosexual men EVER live past the age of 60. You might want to check out a documentary called “The Gift” for much more in depth on that subject….
Lets talk “transexualism”. 52% of transexuals commit suicide (or attempt to). Of those who DO have the reassignment surgery-48% attempt or commit suicide. So we are NOT AT ALL talking about a HEALTHY LIFESTYLE are we? Nopers-again we are talking about behavior that leads to a shortened life span…
With those things in mind-why would there be ANY rational REASON to expose kids to these things?? The only one I can think of is to try and somehow promote “the agenda” which is not at all appropriate.
And if you don’t live in Florida why should you care? If you do live here, then why not move to California?
Ricky Mickey
Well put
DeLaunhardt
Thank you Ricky!
DeLaunhardt
I already posted a link and the title of just one OF HUNDREDS of studies of the REAL origin of homosexuality, Check it out and get back to me…in other words to quote liberals: “Follow the Science…”
IHateStupidPeople
@DeLaundhardt-Except it’s not science at all, it is just a religious group with false idea’s. No facts, no science, no truth! Not even published. Nothing academic about or intelligent about it.
Sue
Thank you.
JMH
This is trash! Sexual abuse doesn’t make people gay. As far as the “unhealthy lifestyle”, the suicide is likely stemming from the pain of not fitting in. Clearly, you are not in support of these people.
Marsha
Ole’ Bob needs to take care of high prices and fighting in WDW and stay out of politics! He is the spokesperson for the Walt Disney Company! The END!!
Nunyrbizness
corporations are politics.
Parent who parents!
Nunyrbizness… so funny how you call out someone for reposting the same comment then do it yourself. Then you call someone a bigot fir disagreeing with you. You do realize you are being the bigot, right? Live those one-sided glasses you are looking through🙄
WAP
Question: When does “inclusion” become “promotion?”
Answer: When the name-calling begins and revision of historical facts become the norm.
It is just as wrong to label someone a bigot as it is to exclude someone who is going about living their own life. Get out of the politics and return to wholesome entertainment.
Nunyrbizness
Oh look – it’s another bigot who doesn’t want to be called out.
Sickofthecrap
Apparently everyone who doesn’t subscribe to your warped beliefs is a bigot. And you are a JOKE.
DeLaunhardt
You are SUCH a cliche!
As usual the lib starts to name calling…..
Kevin
Oh look – it’s the same hypocritical Liberal from above still defaming everyone who doesn’t agree 100% with him.
Ricky Mickey
What would happen if all the Christians showed up At Chapek’s office demanding rights to THEIR beliefs? There are more Christians than LGB….. Would he kiss up to the Christians as much as the “gender” people? This has all gotten out of hand. You do what you want to do, I’ll do what I want to do. I don’t “push” my heterosexual life on anyone and neither should anyone “push” their homosexual life on me. Can’t we all just get along and QUIT being offended by things that aren’t shoved personally in our faces. People, GET A LIFE! It’s Disney World/Land. It’s supposed to be The Happiest Place on Earth. Not The Most Controversial. In my opinion, the “gay” society has done too much to help change history and classical stories in life. Spend your time on getting rid of Genie+ and the high cost of visiting a Disney Park. That would help EVERYONE.
Hillary C
The difference is that LGBTQ people, and the discrimination they face, are real. That’s compared to someone like God or Jesus or whatever other fake women in the sky you wanna make up. Those things are imaginary and not real.
Kevin
Hillary cries about discrimination then goes on to discriminate a religion’s belief in their God. Your hypocrisy is priceless Hillary
HIllary C
I’m not discriminating. You and the masses should be allowed to freely follow and believe in any deity you want. I’m just commenting that you’re idiots FOR your beliefs. The idea that some woman 5k years ago created all things and now watches over us and sends us to hell if we’re bad seems a bit out there.
Ricky Mickey
If it weren’t for God above, you wouldn’t be here commenting on this post. Although this is supposed to be a Disney discussion, I will say that there are five words that are proof of the reason of your being. “In the beginning, God created”.
Julian H
Amen Brother.
Hillary C
Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and God walk into a bar…..
DeLaunhardt
AMEN to his!! I remember a time when we never knew “the politics” of a company or actor.
And we were FAR LESS DIVIDED because of it.
But the WOKE religion/Cancel Culture cannot stand dissenting thought or expression. So now EVERYTHING has to go through the ‘WOKE-OMETER” and be politicized.
I read in another report that Disney has suffered a ton of financial loss on the “alter of woke” (see the movies “The Eternals” and “West Side Story” as examples) and that they wanted to walk away from “woke”…
But even though Cheap-ek is a supposed Republican, he has little grasp of the concept that you cant please everyone and the even MORE IMPORTANT statement: GET WOKE-GO BROKE!!
One day we might actually say “…do you remember Disney World and all of the theme parks?”……
Jon Heil
ha just say fruity
mike
It’s time for Chapek to just shut his mouth & take the company out of politics for good! I’ve been going to WDW since the beginning. You know, since back when we spent all that money to escape the world’s problems & issues. We just paid all that money to be treated like princes & princesses w/o a care in the world for a brief time! Not politically correct, but yes, we could tell that a large amount of employees were gay but we did not care one way or the other & it wasn’t any of our business anyway. This will be our last year since we already have a large prepaid investment on it. Not because we can’t afford it like all the minorities Disney pretends to care about (Disney inclusive propaganda) because we can. The Magic is gone! Mr. Chapik you have created a great short term profits business plan, but your decisions will do what no one ever thought possible, the business downfall of Disney Parks Division of Disney Corp.
Lucas Loyalist
I’m starting to like Chapek more and more.
He still needs to stop nickel and dimeing everything.
Den
His solution is always “We will send them money”
How about Disney stay out of politics and quit ripping off people at the parks.
Kevin
Bet you I know how he is going to raise that nice sum of money he said he is going to donate…… HIGHER PRICES!!!!!!!
Sue
No corporation should ever be involved with politics or attempting to guide lawmakers.
Disney has gone down the toilet.
Tom
Bob needs to stick to running Disney into the ground or actually read the bill. It’s geared toward PROTECTING KIDS you bald headed moron!
Mike
Disney exists only because they play Florida politics. If this bill was simply about not teaching this to young children that would be one thing. It’s written so vaguely that it can be used to discriminate against these groups. It is ignorant to think any bill is that simple. Politics does not work that way.
Denise
Wrong! Try reading the bill before commenting on something you clearly don’t understand.
Mike
It’s what’s not written in the bill that’s the problem. It’s too vague and enforcement is up to legal and judicial interpretation.
Jeanie
Thank you, Bob! Stupidest waste of government’s time. What other reality will kids be shielded from? They can face the reality of violence / gun violence in school, but have to be hidden from a human reality?
Eileen
Disney needs to stay out of politics
franklin
Corporations period need to stay out of politics. I honestly don’t give two about what they have to say on anything other than the goods or services they are trying to sell me.
Kevin
Do people not realize that this is just a PR stunt from Chapek to help rescue his public image from the crapper?
Denise
How is being a buffoon helping his image?
Kevin
Read some of the comments on here from people that are all of a sudden pro Bob. I am sure they aren’t the only ones.
Denise
Disney is big time into leftist politics. I say tough luck to this buffoon. I support our governor. He is the best governor in the country and has done a great job with our state. Anyone that thinks that it’s okay to put this crap into children’s heads in the school should have their head examined.
Kathy
Where’s the concern for children who end up confused, upset because they are being told something they don’t understand. WHY is it that people feel that children of the age this bill is intended to protect can actually make intelligent, informed decisions regarding sexuality, yet 18-21 year olds are considered to young/immature to make decisions regarding alcohol, tobacco, guns – there is NO justification for subjecting children to discussions of sexuality in the classroom.
kathy
BOB, you’re fired!
Ken Brenner
WDW needs to stay out of this social mess. We go to WDW to get away from the idiocy of our society, and what do we find – more idiocy. It once was a nice escape, now, it’s an example of VERY poor and weak leadership!
So sad, so sad…
Trudy
Why don’t Mr. Chapek use his own money for his beliefs? He complained about Covid taking money away from Disney, but now he can give away 5 million dollars to a questionable cause? How is he going to recoup the money? Raise prices again at Disney to take all the lower and middle class people away from being able to go to Disney with their kids? What a guy!!!! He is the worst!!!!!
RoC
When I was a kid, sex ed was not brought up until the 6th grade. This crap that the left wants to push is something that should be handled at home. The best teachers in the world are parents, stop taking away their responsibilities as parents and make parents do their job.
Julian H
I’m sorry but is anybody else SICK of looking at that Greedy Fat Pig Bob Chapek, and is verbal diarrhoea… on and on and on….Stop please retire from the post and take the greedy board with you.
Parent who parents!
Nunyrbizness… so funny how you call out someone for reposting the same comment then do it yourself. Then you call someone a bigot fir disagreeing with you. You do realize you are being the bigot, right? Live those one-sided glasses you are looking through🙄
Nunyah8r
His head is so far up his own @$$ that he needs to install a glass belly button to see the world.
M.
Wow Bob, how about you focus on solving some of the current problems at your own parks/company rather than getting into the middle of a situation that doesn’t concern you. The bill is an issue between parents of elementary-aged children and their local schools, period, full stop. Anyone else’s opinion who is not in one of those two groups is irrelevant.
Darren
Discussions about sexual matters should be strictly between parents and their children, at least until after puberty, and then schools should be part of the discussion only if the child is confused, and then in a meeting with both the child and the parents present, and only with staff who are sufficiently expert in that area,, such as counselors or psychologists.
Gale O Boyer
Does this dress code of gender neutral mean no little ones can dress as pirates or princesses? How ridiculous for Disney to do this. Can we just go to Disney without the politics please.
Argent
Sorry. But Disney will long outlive all of you…
Blake Dylan Bradley Cox
It’s not the ‘Don’t Say Gay’ bill, it’s HB1557 or more appropriately House Bill 1557.
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