This absolutely makes sense, either that or Hans is freakin’ psychopath!
Near the beginning of the movie, he falls in the water and keeps laughing “in character” while NOBODY else is watching. If he’s still play-faking “nice guy” when he’s absolutely alone, then he is a total psychopath. Yeah, the trolls definitely messed him up.
That makes no sense cz if you look at Hans original plans he wanted to get rid of anna and the guy had enough sense to just try and let her die then to do it himself he wanted elsa to look bad so he had an excuse to have Elsa killed with treason he wanted to look like the good guy there was people there at the ice palace and he already ordered them not to kill her but those two guards had there own agenda and Hans didnt allow it bz he had his plan he was there to witness it so it woulda look bad on him later bruh the guy knew what he was doing but ofc like always villains never get away with anything for too long they always get exposed the trolls help airendelle (sorry don’t know how to spell) with so much they helped elsa how to love and not let fear control her and if it wasnt for the trolls Hans would have won and just bz they wanted christoph married dont mean a thing and i dont think they even knew it was princess Anna until grand papi came out and noted it they were just excited so plzzzzzzzzz
Not even, when would they have gotten to them? Also, I if you have ever noticed… Most villains on Disney wear gloves… Elsa takes hers off and the Trolls don’t wear them.
Listen to their song, “Fixer Upper.” The theory spawns from the lines about getting rid of Anna’s fiance so that Kristoff can have her.
Really, Frozen suffers from the fact that Elsa was supposed to be the original villain and Hans was made the villain late in the planning stages, this why he has a lot of “good” moments still.
Hans didn’t let the crossbow kill Elsa because he wanted her to end winter. He told her not to be a monster because he wanted to persuade her to save Arandelle. I mean who wants to rule over a kingdom that’s freezing to death. She was still valuable to him alive, so she stayed that way . He was a cold calculating villain from the beginning.
My turn. Much to everyone’s shock and surprise, Elsa was the original villain a as the Snow Queen was in the original fairy tale. Disney had been working on the storyline when the hack with a keyboard they had hired came to them and played the song ‘Let it Go.’ Disney saw a hell of a cash grab opportunity (despite the fact that the guy could not score a soundtrack to save his life (no reaccuring themes, the music is just all over the place. He can write great hits, but no continuity)) and the House o Mouse took it.
The main story had already been written with Elsa as the big baddy, but with such a power ballad, they had to change it. Hans, the original love interest, became the new big bad guy, and the story deviated away from probably the one fairy tale that Disney didn’t have to alter to make kid friendly. And from there it became nothing but a gigantic cash grab. More catchy songs! An adorable, but somewhat annoying side kick! Not to mention a few good catch phrases that fit the modern times and feminist movement! And voila! Frozen was born. As well as over a decades worth of merchandise that no other princess movie has seen.
Honestly, the movie would have been way better sticking with the original story, that is, if Disney really wanted to push a story about girl power as well as a person’s station not mattering.
Sorry, not sorry. I am not a Frozen fan, and never will be. The fairy tales by the brothers Grimm and Hans Anderson were some of the first books I read as a child (and not the cutest, edited version for kids either). I grew up watching Disney movies and playing soundtracks by Alan Menken and John Williams. I studied movie soundtracks in college as a music major as I studied creative writing and world building on the side. I am not saying I could do better. But Disney certainly could have.
No. Hans is a narcissistic, gaslighting, persuasive, plotting villain.
He can’t kill Elsa before he marries Anna, because then Anna would be too grief-stricken to get married right away. He needs to do the happy part first, then get rid of Elsa. But as the story would have it, he lets Anna “die” when she comes for his help, so his plan changes on the go, like any liar would know it happens. Once he thinks Anna died, he can sentence Elsa to death, and get rid of both sisters, while the council is telling him he is Arandelle’s hope and future, now that everything is chaos.
Elsa was not the villain at all, she was the force to manipulate. She is an emotional mess that they took advantage of, that cannot control her own powers yet. So she couldn’t be made the villain. She had no intentions to be malevolent. Hans did.
In the song “Love is an Open Door” when Hans sings the line “I’ve been waiting my whole life to find my own place,” he turns and faces Arendel. When the guard is pointing the crossbow at Elsa, Hans gives a quick glance up, sees the giant ice chandelier directly above Elsa, and aims for it. He is the villain, not the trolls.
Well…that’s an interesting theory…but how about another? What if when Else hit Anna in the heart, that actually “froze” Hans’ love for Anna and that he really couldn’t give her true loves kiss because Anna’s frozen heart effected Hans too? Maybe it was just an accidental villan in creation…
He is villain, he is villain,.. bringing the trolls into this…
Sorry it doesn’t add up at all..
Besides the trolls could see the future,so they didn’t need to do anything sinister
Hans never was the villain–In the original storyboards, Elsa’s stubbornness was the “villain” for hiding away and refusing to accept that she was freezing the country.
Not-Bad Hans was just there to make Anna look more flighty and impulsive and not realize she liked Kristoff more.
But, redrafts needed to make Elsa more sympathetic, so an actual villain had to be dropped in out of the sky at the last minute…
And guess what, girls? It’s the one who wants to MARRY our heroine! Because he’s deceptive and greedy, and just wants to USE her, and if she’s SMART, she’ll turn him down!
(Because Anna’s optimistic, you see, and believes in True Love, which is what makes her a gullible sucker, and she should be cynical and realistic about relationships like her older sister!)
To be honest, I believe the trolls could be the villain however, not the way suggested. You see at the very beginning of the movie when you first meet the trolls is where mine comes from. Yes Elsa hurt her sister but if the trolls hadn’t told her that there was danger in her powers as well as fear being her enemy I don’t believe things would have even turned out the way they did. In turn the started to try and hide her powers instead of allowing her to control them. They suppressed her powers instead of allowing her to let them grow and understand how to control them. They instilled fear into her and that caused her not to understand her powers at all. I believe if the never would have scared her away from her powers to begin with the movie would have been a lot different.
Rewatch the movie please. It was her father, not the trolls. The trolls told her to learn to control her power. Her father said “Don’t feel it, conceal it.”
That’s an interesting perspective. And I can get on board with this theory. However, in that case, I think it would make them accidental villains. Because the king and queen took an extreme interpretation of the trolls’ message.
Have we considered the fact that Hans is a manipulative narcissist who would attempt to take the easiest route to the throne. In the beginning he knew he couldn’t get to Elsa so he went for Anna because she was an easy mark. He probably only “saved” Elsa with the “don’t be the monster” line in an attempt to endear himself to her. So that, perhaps, she would fall for him, giving him an easier line to the throne. Hans could never have saved Anna with true loves kiss because he never truly loved her and he would have been discovered to be a fraud.
well, that is not possible, I think because u can’t just make someone fall in love with u with just one line because they never even had a straight conversation … and I really sort of belive he liked her in the first part,……
Why can’t people just let movies be what they are? Why do some think they need to try and change the plot? Disney movies are not real life. They are fictional and should stay the way they were made. Just because someone might love the character of Hans, it doesn’t mean that he was the good guy in the movie. Elsa was not the villain, she was never shown how to control her powers so she didn’t know how to. Without her parents around to help her, she was left alone to find out how to control the powers she had. Anna was young and naive. She really didn’t know what she wanted other than love, so she went after the first person to show any interest at all. Hans was the villain because of the fact that he wanted to rule Arendelle, which rightfully belonged to Elsa and Anna. The trolls were not manipulative at all, if so…why wouldn’t they have forced Kristoff to go after Anna from the start, since they were like his family. The trolls even help Elsa and Anna’s family when they were little, so stop trying to make them out to be the enemies.
well yeah, it does not make sense for me either.. but I guess they like to….. and like u said they are not real so people don’t mind that they are making enemies … (just thinking) …
Why is everyone skipping the fact that the whole way through there’s a character pulling all the strings. He enters announcing his desire to take advantage of the inexperienced new queen, spends the whole first act trying to figure out why something feels off, and finally makes absurd claims that Elsa tried to kill him while rabble rousing her as a monster.
In the second act he turns to the next remaining leader and starts manipulating him with whispers of needing to rescue the damsel from the monster, even sending his thugs along on the mission while he stays behind manipulating even more people and climbing further into leadership of the kingdom. By the time Hans returns with Elsa hes in the inner circle and in his ear. Whispering more suggestion that Hans should rule and Elsa is evil, which would greatly benefit his trade goals.
The real villain, or at least the brains villain to Hans’ brute is Wesselton.
Rewatch the movie please. It was her father, not the trolls. The trolls told her to learn to control her power. Her father said “Don’t feel it, conceal it.”
Anna is the villain. If she had stayed out of it her sister wouldn’t have been grief stricken, wouldn’t have freaked out at the party and Hans wouldn’t have gotten any play.
He doesn’t kill Elsa with a crossbow because, he needs her to undo the magic that has plunged Arendelle into a deep freeze. As soon as Elsa tells him she can’t undo what she’s done, he is done pretending to the sisters. It’s pretty obvious- I’m surprised that this got so far without the obvious being said.
My question where are his brothers and another thing you aren’t gonna kill the queen before having your ducks in a row which is why he lied and he definitely knew how desperate Anna was but the heart is not easily persuaded as poppy troll said so can’t make someone fall in love with you
I knew Hand was the bad guy when he and Anna first met and he said ‘I love crazy’. No guy loves crazy. None. Ever. So when we comes out as the bad guy later on, I wasn’t surprised. The troll theory is just dumb. When did they even come near Hans to place a spell on him?
The princesses ABANDONED Arendelle. Hans was the only one who gave half a damn about the people in their time of need when he had ZERO obligation to do anything.
Weird how so many people forget that part of the movie (and his character).
Well Elsa freaked out. What do you expect when your locked in a room for like 16+ years, emotionally unstable and scared of everything, only seeing your parents until they died and your left alone? Then, the one thing you fear, comes true and your being called a monster and everyone is afraid of you. I believe Elsa is justified in leaving, but not in trying to stay away forever.
Anna kinda abandoned the people because she personally wanted to get Elsa and make it right, when she should have stayed and sent others instead.
Hans just played his part. If your going to takeover a kingdom, you need the people to like you. What better way than to be nice during a life changing event.
Who cares? Frozen sucked and I could live without the implications of beastiality (particularly in the sequel) for the rest of my life thankyouverymuch.
No! Bad theory! He’s 100% the villain! There is one reason and one reason only Hans didn’t kill her in the ice palace. It’s because he thought she could reverse her magic and stop the winter. He “saves” her and she passes out in the ice palace. Next time you see her she is chained up in a cell, back in Arendelle and he comes in and pleads with her to reverse her magic and bring summer back. once he realizes she can’t control it, that’s when he tries to kill her…. and no! I don’t think the only reason he wants to kill her is to because he thinks it will bring summer back. He laid out his plan to steal the throne plain and clear to Anna when he refuses to kiss her, and then leaves her to die, locked in a freezing cold room after he puts out the fire! So he tries to kill Anna and Elsa! This dude is just straight up evil! And thankfully unsuccessful!
I don’t think this theory is needed to explain anything. Hans doesn’t kill Elsa earlier because he can’t plausibly claim. To have married Ana before her death at that point in the film.
He has to be able to claim that he and Ana were married prior to killing Elsa before his scheme could work. He also needs a plausible explanation of why Ana dies. Elsa freezing her heart and Hans avenging her death is the perfect “hero of Arendale” scenario for him.
I also find it very difficult to believe that the trolls would risk Ana and Elsa’s lives if Hans could not be defeated in his plot after they put it in his head.
Hans as a bad guy really makes no sense to me. It’s kinda clear that he was made a bad guy just so Elsa and Anna don’t suffer any consequences.
Like literally! There was no way Hans would have gotten the throne, it is the 1800’s and for more than 300 years there has been laws that state that the husband of the queen would not become queen or even have any power. (Had Elsa and Anna been commoners then yes his plan and such would have made sense)
If Hans wanted power or to be “king” in a way… the only way to even get some power was to marry either Elsa or Anna and keep them alive and married to him and in a way manipulate them into doing what he wants as they hold the power not Hans. (Also Hans would have lost any power and such if his wife died, especially without an heir)
And no not even Elsa and Anna being the only heirs would have helped as either the council would have taken over… Even the Duke had more right to the throne than Hans!
And Hans having the people’s support still would have not changed anything or even given him power as he would have lost it either due to his brothers confiscating it or somebody else (arendelle as far as we can see does not really have an army and I can tell you many kingdoms (including the dukes) who would take a shot at expanding their kingdoms with arendelle due to it being easy pickings) and let’s not even get started on the civil war. It would turn into a free for all as everybody would want it and it would not be pretty.
Literally no matter how you cut it his actions make no sense. He has no means and his motive makes no sense…
The trolls however being bad guys makes sense in many ways. The whole fiancé out of the way is suspicious…. they can see into the future (and seriously how can we trust they will not use that for their own advantage?) and let’s not forget that in Scandinavian lore trolls are not good.. at all! Plus have a bone to pick with the royals (look up the story of king olaf and the troll).
If anything Hans is kinda the reason why Elsa and Anna got together….
Like seriously! What do you think would have happened if he was not around or did not do what he did?
Elsa would have run off to god knows where leaving her kingdom and Anna frozen as she would not have been able to find kristoff or even perform the act of true love.
And if Hans was not even there at all elsa and Anna would have never gotten close again…. or worse either Elsa would have turned evil or Anna or both…
No matter how you cut it the ending would have been bad.
If anything this shows that Hans is nothing but the scapegoat… the loki of the story…. (the loki in a sense that in myths loki is used as a scapegoat and a problem solver, he solves the problems and at the same time he is the scape goat that the gods put the blame on so they continue to look good in the eyes of others)
There was no need for Hans to be the bad guy. Yet he was so Elsa and Anna would not suffer consequences for what happened. (Sorry I cannot ignore the fact that Elsa did not even bothered to even try to stop the winter…. even when she knew her people and her own sister were in danger…. yes sure she was scared but it was very obvious that her running away did not solve the problem yet she continued to run away)
Well, u are the only person that sort of told the right theory and it makes sense…If Hans was never in the story, who knows wut will happen… I mean they will never be the same again…
Hans was meant to be the good guy, and Elsa the Villain. Then let it go was too good so they rewrote the film. My theory is they did a bad job of re-writing it and kept to much of good Hans in the early part of the story before the dreadful switch.
I thought maybe I was kinda late to this party but let me put in my two cents. Hans was manipulated by the trolls as stated in the song, get the fiancé out of the way and the whole thing will be fixed. Why did the trolls want to marry Kristoff to Anna, a girl he JUST met? If the trolls were really Kristoff “family” and the “love experts”, they wouldn’t have done that. That’s really shady.
The trolls clearly abducted Kristoff when he was a child because it looked to me that those ice cutters were his family. Someone made his clothes and made him a mini sled. Further more reindeer are valuable. Someone set him up with the baby reindeer Sven. Yup, the trolls are trouble.
Once Anna left Hans in charge of Arendelle while she went looking for Elsa, He became the Regent of Arendelle. Regent is like a king. If the sisters never came back he was already in control and in full power. If that was his evil goal , then GOAAAL !! Mission accomplished, but no, he risked his life to find Anna. That’s hero stuff.
Follow the time line, it was at the troll wedding that Hans changed to a villain.
Disney can make finish this as a trilogy and answer the question why is Elsa magical? Is she the lost fairy as hinted in Frozen 2? Did the trolls steal the true first born heir to the throne and replace her with Elsa the lost fairy?
Hummm?
Comments for Prince Hans May Not Be the Actual Villain in ‘Frozen’
Darth Analysis
This absolutely makes sense, either that or Hans is freakin’ psychopath!
Near the beginning of the movie, he falls in the water and keeps laughing “in character” while NOBODY else is watching. If he’s still play-faking “nice guy” when he’s absolutely alone, then he is a total psychopath. Yeah, the trolls definitely messed him up.
Ana Abreu
That makes no sense cz if you look at Hans original plans he wanted to get rid of anna and the guy had enough sense to just try and let her die then to do it himself he wanted elsa to look bad so he had an excuse to have Elsa killed with treason he wanted to look like the good guy there was people there at the ice palace and he already ordered them not to kill her but those two guards had there own agenda and Hans didnt allow it bz he had his plan he was there to witness it so it woulda look bad on him later bruh the guy knew what he was doing but ofc like always villains never get away with anything for too long they always get exposed the trolls help airendelle (sorry don’t know how to spell) with so much they helped elsa how to love and not let fear control her and if it wasnt for the trolls Hans would have won and just bz they wanted christoph married dont mean a thing and i dont think they even knew it was princess Anna until grand papi came out and noted it they were just excited so plzzzzzzzzz
Edwina
Not even, when would they have gotten to them? Also, I if you have ever noticed… Most villains on Disney wear gloves… Elsa takes hers off and the Trolls don’t wear them.
C Friday
Listen to their song, “Fixer Upper.” The theory spawns from the lines about getting rid of Anna’s fiance so that Kristoff can have her.
Really, Frozen suffers from the fact that Elsa was supposed to be the original villain and Hans was made the villain late in the planning stages, this why he has a lot of “good” moments still.
Michelle
Hans didn’t let the crossbow kill Elsa because he wanted her to end winter. He told her not to be a monster because he wanted to persuade her to save Arandelle. I mean who wants to rule over a kingdom that’s freezing to death. She was still valuable to him alive, so she stayed that way . He was a cold calculating villain from the beginning.
Ally
Yes, this exactly. He needed her to end winter before he ended her. It really is that simple.
Amelia Banks
My turn. Much to everyone’s shock and surprise, Elsa was the original villain a as the Snow Queen was in the original fairy tale. Disney had been working on the storyline when the hack with a keyboard they had hired came to them and played the song ‘Let it Go.’ Disney saw a hell of a cash grab opportunity (despite the fact that the guy could not score a soundtrack to save his life (no reaccuring themes, the music is just all over the place. He can write great hits, but no continuity)) and the House o Mouse took it.
The main story had already been written with Elsa as the big baddy, but with such a power ballad, they had to change it. Hans, the original love interest, became the new big bad guy, and the story deviated away from probably the one fairy tale that Disney didn’t have to alter to make kid friendly. And from there it became nothing but a gigantic cash grab. More catchy songs! An adorable, but somewhat annoying side kick! Not to mention a few good catch phrases that fit the modern times and feminist movement! And voila! Frozen was born. As well as over a decades worth of merchandise that no other princess movie has seen.
Honestly, the movie would have been way better sticking with the original story, that is, if Disney really wanted to push a story about girl power as well as a person’s station not mattering.
Sorry, not sorry. I am not a Frozen fan, and never will be. The fairy tales by the brothers Grimm and Hans Anderson were some of the first books I read as a child (and not the cutest, edited version for kids either). I grew up watching Disney movies and playing soundtracks by Alan Menken and John Williams. I studied movie soundtracks in college as a music major as I studied creative writing and world building on the side. I am not saying I could do better. But Disney certainly could have.
Kitty
No. Hans is a narcissistic, gaslighting, persuasive, plotting villain.
He can’t kill Elsa before he marries Anna, because then Anna would be too grief-stricken to get married right away. He needs to do the happy part first, then get rid of Elsa. But as the story would have it, he lets Anna “die” when she comes for his help, so his plan changes on the go, like any liar would know it happens. Once he thinks Anna died, he can sentence Elsa to death, and get rid of both sisters, while the council is telling him he is Arandelle’s hope and future, now that everything is chaos.
Elsa was not the villain at all, she was the force to manipulate. She is an emotional mess that they took advantage of, that cannot control her own powers yet. So she couldn’t be made the villain. She had no intentions to be malevolent. Hans did.
Ken
Ok but like. Literally. She was the villain before they rewrote the story lmao.
Matt
In the song “Love is an Open Door” when Hans sings the line “I’ve been waiting my whole life to find my own place,” he turns and faces Arendel. When the guard is pointing the crossbow at Elsa, Hans gives a quick glance up, sees the giant ice chandelier directly above Elsa, and aims for it. He is the villain, not the trolls.
Veronica
Well…that’s an interesting theory…but how about another? What if when Else hit Anna in the heart, that actually “froze” Hans’ love for Anna and that he really couldn’t give her true loves kiss because Anna’s frozen heart effected Hans too? Maybe it was just an accidental villan in creation…
Alexis hoseok
He is villain, he is villain,.. bringing the trolls into this…
Sorry it doesn’t add up at all..
Besides the trolls could see the future,so they didn’t need to do anything sinister
Old Man
Sure, or maybe Darth Vader came in and made Hans come over to the Dark Side of the Force.
Please. You can’t just add anything in to make your “theory” work. Manipulating trolls? Snort.
EricJ
Hans never was the villain–In the original storyboards, Elsa’s stubbornness was the “villain” for hiding away and refusing to accept that she was freezing the country.
Not-Bad Hans was just there to make Anna look more flighty and impulsive and not realize she liked Kristoff more.
But, redrafts needed to make Elsa more sympathetic, so an actual villain had to be dropped in out of the sky at the last minute…
And guess what, girls? It’s the one who wants to MARRY our heroine! Because he’s deceptive and greedy, and just wants to USE her, and if she’s SMART, she’ll turn him down!
(Because Anna’s optimistic, you see, and believes in True Love, which is what makes her a gullible sucker, and she should be cynical and realistic about relationships like her older sister!)
…So, Jennifer Lee’s now running the studio, huh?
Nicole
To be honest, I believe the trolls could be the villain however, not the way suggested. You see at the very beginning of the movie when you first meet the trolls is where mine comes from. Yes Elsa hurt her sister but if the trolls hadn’t told her that there was danger in her powers as well as fear being her enemy I don’t believe things would have even turned out the way they did. In turn the started to try and hide her powers instead of allowing her to control them. They suppressed her powers instead of allowing her to let them grow and understand how to control them. They instilled fear into her and that caused her not to understand her powers at all. I believe if the never would have scared her away from her powers to begin with the movie would have been a lot different.
Cheryl
Rewatch the movie please. It was her father, not the trolls. The trolls told her to learn to control her power. Her father said “Don’t feel it, conceal it.”
Haley
That’s an interesting perspective. And I can get on board with this theory. However, in that case, I think it would make them accidental villains. Because the king and queen took an extreme interpretation of the trolls’ message.
Dark.huntress
Have we considered the fact that Hans is a manipulative narcissist who would attempt to take the easiest route to the throne. In the beginning he knew he couldn’t get to Elsa so he went for Anna because she was an easy mark. He probably only “saved” Elsa with the “don’t be the monster” line in an attempt to endear himself to her. So that, perhaps, she would fall for him, giving him an easier line to the throne. Hans could never have saved Anna with true loves kiss because he never truly loved her and he would have been discovered to be a fraud.
Senaree
well, that is not possible, I think because u can’t just make someone fall in love with u with just one line because they never even had a straight conversation … and I really sort of belive he liked her in the first part,……
HEIDI WELLS
Why can’t people just let movies be what they are? Why do some think they need to try and change the plot? Disney movies are not real life. They are fictional and should stay the way they were made. Just because someone might love the character of Hans, it doesn’t mean that he was the good guy in the movie. Elsa was not the villain, she was never shown how to control her powers so she didn’t know how to. Without her parents around to help her, she was left alone to find out how to control the powers she had. Anna was young and naive. She really didn’t know what she wanted other than love, so she went after the first person to show any interest at all. Hans was the villain because of the fact that he wanted to rule Arendelle, which rightfully belonged to Elsa and Anna. The trolls were not manipulative at all, if so…why wouldn’t they have forced Kristoff to go after Anna from the start, since they were like his family. The trolls even help Elsa and Anna’s family when they were little, so stop trying to make them out to be the enemies.
Senaree
well yeah, it does not make sense for me either.. but I guess they like to….. and like u said they are not real so people don’t mind that they are making enemies … (just thinking) …
Nathan
Why is everyone skipping the fact that the whole way through there’s a character pulling all the strings. He enters announcing his desire to take advantage of the inexperienced new queen, spends the whole first act trying to figure out why something feels off, and finally makes absurd claims that Elsa tried to kill him while rabble rousing her as a monster.
In the second act he turns to the next remaining leader and starts manipulating him with whispers of needing to rescue the damsel from the monster, even sending his thugs along on the mission while he stays behind manipulating even more people and climbing further into leadership of the kingdom. By the time Hans returns with Elsa hes in the inner circle and in his ear. Whispering more suggestion that Hans should rule and Elsa is evil, which would greatly benefit his trade goals.
The real villain, or at least the brains villain to Hans’ brute is Wesselton.
Cheryl
Rewatch the movie please. It was her father, not the trolls. The trolls told her to learn to control her power. Her father said “Don’t feel it, conceal it.”
Beverly
All of those nice things he did were when people were watching. He couldn’t become king of everyone saw him kill Elsa and Anna.
David
Anna is the villain. If she had stayed out of it her sister wouldn’t have been grief stricken, wouldn’t have freaked out at the party and Hans wouldn’t have gotten any play.
Liz
He doesn’t kill Elsa with a crossbow because, he needs her to undo the magic that has plunged Arendelle into a deep freeze. As soon as Elsa tells him she can’t undo what she’s done, he is done pretending to the sisters. It’s pretty obvious- I’m surprised that this got so far without the obvious being said.
Sara
MatPat already did this theory like a year ago.
Candy
THANK YOU. Was wondering if anyone would give him credit.
Whitney Young
My question where are his brothers and another thing you aren’t gonna kill the queen before having your ducks in a row which is why he lied and he definitely knew how desperate Anna was but the heart is not easily persuaded as poppy troll said so can’t make someone fall in love with you
Jen
I knew Hand was the bad guy when he and Anna first met and he said ‘I love crazy’. No guy loves crazy. None. Ever. So when we comes out as the bad guy later on, I wasn’t surprised. The troll theory is just dumb. When did they even come near Hans to place a spell on him?
Jeff
The princesses ABANDONED Arendelle. Hans was the only one who gave half a damn about the people in their time of need when he had ZERO obligation to do anything.
Weird how so many people forget that part of the movie (and his character).
Kaya
Well Elsa freaked out. What do you expect when your locked in a room for like 16+ years, emotionally unstable and scared of everything, only seeing your parents until they died and your left alone? Then, the one thing you fear, comes true and your being called a monster and everyone is afraid of you. I believe Elsa is justified in leaving, but not in trying to stay away forever.
Anna kinda abandoned the people because she personally wanted to get Elsa and make it right, when she should have stayed and sent others instead.
Hans just played his part. If your going to takeover a kingdom, you need the people to like you. What better way than to be nice during a life changing event.
S
Who cares? Frozen sucked and I could live without the implications of beastiality (particularly in the sequel) for the rest of my life thankyouverymuch.
Bobbi
No! Bad theory! He’s 100% the villain! There is one reason and one reason only Hans didn’t kill her in the ice palace. It’s because he thought she could reverse her magic and stop the winter. He “saves” her and she passes out in the ice palace. Next time you see her she is chained up in a cell, back in Arendelle and he comes in and pleads with her to reverse her magic and bring summer back. once he realizes she can’t control it, that’s when he tries to kill her…. and no! I don’t think the only reason he wants to kill her is to because he thinks it will bring summer back. He laid out his plan to steal the throne plain and clear to Anna when he refuses to kiss her, and then leaves her to die, locked in a freezing cold room after he puts out the fire! So he tries to kill Anna and Elsa! This dude is just straight up evil! And thankfully unsuccessful!
Taylor
I don’t think this theory is needed to explain anything. Hans doesn’t kill Elsa earlier because he can’t plausibly claim. To have married Ana before her death at that point in the film.
He has to be able to claim that he and Ana were married prior to killing Elsa before his scheme could work. He also needs a plausible explanation of why Ana dies. Elsa freezing her heart and Hans avenging her death is the perfect “hero of Arendale” scenario for him.
I also find it very difficult to believe that the trolls would risk Ana and Elsa’s lives if Hans could not be defeated in his plot after they put it in his head.
Annie
Hans as a bad guy really makes no sense to me. It’s kinda clear that he was made a bad guy just so Elsa and Anna don’t suffer any consequences.
Like literally! There was no way Hans would have gotten the throne, it is the 1800’s and for more than 300 years there has been laws that state that the husband of the queen would not become queen or even have any power. (Had Elsa and Anna been commoners then yes his plan and such would have made sense)
If Hans wanted power or to be “king” in a way… the only way to even get some power was to marry either Elsa or Anna and keep them alive and married to him and in a way manipulate them into doing what he wants as they hold the power not Hans. (Also Hans would have lost any power and such if his wife died, especially without an heir)
And no not even Elsa and Anna being the only heirs would have helped as either the council would have taken over… Even the Duke had more right to the throne than Hans!
And Hans having the people’s support still would have not changed anything or even given him power as he would have lost it either due to his brothers confiscating it or somebody else (arendelle as far as we can see does not really have an army and I can tell you many kingdoms (including the dukes) who would take a shot at expanding their kingdoms with arendelle due to it being easy pickings) and let’s not even get started on the civil war. It would turn into a free for all as everybody would want it and it would not be pretty.
Literally no matter how you cut it his actions make no sense. He has no means and his motive makes no sense…
The trolls however being bad guys makes sense in many ways. The whole fiancé out of the way is suspicious…. they can see into the future (and seriously how can we trust they will not use that for their own advantage?) and let’s not forget that in Scandinavian lore trolls are not good.. at all! Plus have a bone to pick with the royals (look up the story of king olaf and the troll).
If anything Hans is kinda the reason why Elsa and Anna got together….
Like seriously! What do you think would have happened if he was not around or did not do what he did?
Elsa would have run off to god knows where leaving her kingdom and Anna frozen as she would not have been able to find kristoff or even perform the act of true love.
And if Hans was not even there at all elsa and Anna would have never gotten close again…. or worse either Elsa would have turned evil or Anna or both…
No matter how you cut it the ending would have been bad.
If anything this shows that Hans is nothing but the scapegoat… the loki of the story…. (the loki in a sense that in myths loki is used as a scapegoat and a problem solver, he solves the problems and at the same time he is the scape goat that the gods put the blame on so they continue to look good in the eyes of others)
There was no need for Hans to be the bad guy. Yet he was so Elsa and Anna would not suffer consequences for what happened. (Sorry I cannot ignore the fact that Elsa did not even bothered to even try to stop the winter…. even when she knew her people and her own sister were in danger…. yes sure she was scared but it was very obvious that her running away did not solve the problem yet she continued to run away)
Senaree
Well, u are the only person that sort of told the right theory and it makes sense…If Hans was never in the story, who knows wut will happen… I mean they will never be the same again…
ElectricEskimo
Hans was meant to be the good guy, and Elsa the Villain. Then let it go was too good so they rewrote the film. My theory is they did a bad job of re-writing it and kept to much of good Hans in the early part of the story before the dreadful switch.
Peridot
I thought maybe I was kinda late to this party but let me put in my two cents. Hans was manipulated by the trolls as stated in the song, get the fiancé out of the way and the whole thing will be fixed. Why did the trolls want to marry Kristoff to Anna, a girl he JUST met? If the trolls were really Kristoff “family” and the “love experts”, they wouldn’t have done that. That’s really shady.
The trolls clearly abducted Kristoff when he was a child because it looked to me that those ice cutters were his family. Someone made his clothes and made him a mini sled. Further more reindeer are valuable. Someone set him up with the baby reindeer Sven. Yup, the trolls are trouble.
Once Anna left Hans in charge of Arendelle while she went looking for Elsa, He became the Regent of Arendelle. Regent is like a king. If the sisters never came back he was already in control and in full power. If that was his evil goal , then GOAAAL !! Mission accomplished, but no, he risked his life to find Anna. That’s hero stuff.
Follow the time line, it was at the troll wedding that Hans changed to a villain.
Disney can make finish this as a trilogy and answer the question why is Elsa magical? Is she the lost fairy as hinted in Frozen 2? Did the trolls steal the true first born heir to the throne and replace her with Elsa the lost fairy?
Hummm?
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