“What Are the Repercussions of the ‘Mandalorian’ Controversy?”
Oooh! I know this one!
Butt-hurt conservative snowflakes are going to whine when they find out that the cancel culture they created is now going to be used against them as they slowly slide further into the minority kicking and screaming about how they are being discriminated against when it is really just that they don’t like that facts don’t care about their feelings.
Oh? Freewheeling hippies, inner city youths, academic liberals, and Bernie Sanders were out there trying to cancel rock and roll music (and rap and metal and…), the votes of African Americans, flag burners, gay people coming out of the closet, “communists” in Hollywood, anyone speaking ill of the military or police, people who wouldn’t recite the pledge of allegiance, people who wouldn’t stand for the anthem, Dungeons and Dragons, Marilyn Manson, Sinead O’Connor, The Dixie Chicks, and The Teletubbies?
No, Bob. I was talking about conservatives. And apparently you.
Ok now that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day . . . . a complete wack-o on the left claiming the conservatives created cancel culture! What actually are you drinking or smoking? Any liberal will tell you that they created “cancel culture” but they prefer you call it “teaching diversity and inclusivity” go have another drink daddy!
Why can people no longer believe what they want in this country of ours? I don’t understand. How do we expect a person to go their whole lives without offending someone? When did people take opinions other then theirs as offensive? By having separate ideas and observing, accepting our differences, and working together, we create a better future. If so many of us get cought up in something miss said or badly worded to heart, no one is safe. Walking on eggshells becomes the norm and everyone becomes uneasy. I guess what I’m trying to say is, so what she had her own opinions on things. Firing a person for standing on what they believe could not be less American. This comment will probably call on deaf ears, but then again, maybe someone will read it and decide to try on someone else’s shoes for a while and not jump to offense, even if they don’t like that person. Peace and love to all.
Conservatives have been cancelling for decades. Poster offered excellent examples.
I would add N.W.A. for further hypocrisy as far as all these right-wingers go: you’re all saying it’s “the libs” who cancel anything they don’t like…but look how conservatives treated NWA. Were they offensive? Sure. But Cancel Culture has been embraced by the right for a long time now.
And you tried cancelling the lives of ANYONE who doesn’t think like you. We have to fire Gina for a comparison to the holocaust but in all actuality her post was on point
She was saying how we are headed down the wrong road and we need to check ourselves because just because it’s a political party doesn’t mean it has no value so me not being friends with a democrat because they are a democrat is discrimination. Oh and her “transphobic” comment? putting pronouns in your bio is not a requirement to be on social media so when people are demanding that she put pronouns she put r2d2 sounds to be like shut. Up. I am not transphobic i have lots of friends who are but just because you don’t put the right pronouns in your bio doesn’t make you a transphobic.
I would also like to bring up how you guys cancelled splash mountain or was that the cOnSeRvAtIvEs
Wait, Bob. I thought your point was that liberals created cancel culture. Then you give a bunch of examples from the last year or two?
Focus, Bob. Focus.
What you mentioned has nothing to do with cancel culture because cancel culture came around in 2017 with the metoo movement
A liberal movement
But lets just assume that you are right and it did happen earlier than that
The commuists in hollywood movement? That was liberals
Listen to some Glenn beck
Trying to cancel music artists thats more both sides than just conservatives (morgan wallen being an example of music artists on liberal side recently)
Flag burners are not so much cancelling rather condemning people for disrespecting this country on an unbelievable scale
Cancel culture is terrible and should never be used ever
Personal life should never affect your job and yes gina carano should be brought back
So
Piranha, that’s as spot on. He’s so caught up on the title “Cancel Culture” that he doesn’t know the history of having your political and social beliefs held against you. He obviously has never heard of the McCarthy Hearings, Canada Lee, Hazel Scott, the witch hunts being backed by showbiz giants like Ed Sullivan who was accusing people of being “Reds”, House Committee for Un-American Activities infringing on Free Speech when it was as actually Free Speech and not Carano nor Trump’s FIGHT SPEECH, which is not protected by the First Amendment. Conservative Cancel Culture almost destroyed Humphrey Bogart, who they also branded as Communists. Conservatives, aside from the aforementioned cancelling if Rock n Roll, Civil Rights, free speech and the like, were THE first Cancel Culture and still are, but only if you’re Liberal.
Cancel culture attacks people. Censorship from conservatives attacks ideas.
One is a closed minded movement. The other is ideological terrorism that goes often people
You have no real idea of what was going on in Hollywood or those McCarthy hearings or why so many people were unjustly accused of something they did not do. Hollywood was “weeding” out anyone who did not subscribe to the very well planned cancelled culture we are seeing now. As for Trump – he NEVER once said anything that could be construed as hate speech or inciting a riot. And Gina is spot on in her comparison.
Conservatives never tried to cancel the NFL for the football players disrespectful taking a knee we just stopped watching. The problem with you liberals is you don’t understand the difference between a conservative deciding to not watch something because we disagree with what’s going VS liberals getting people fired and trying ruin their lives over something liberals don’t like.
It’s the same thing. Nobody would hire Kaepernick because of the backlash the NFL was getting, so he lost his job because of it. And when Nike hired him as a spokeperson, the conservatives went out and burned their Nike stuff because of it. And I’m pretty sure the #canceldisneyplus isn’t a liberal thing
When in uniform you are on the job and therefore your opinion does not count at time. Colin had no business kneeling during the national athem as a protest. He can protest on his own time. Besides, from what I am told he was a horrible player anyway (I don’t watch football).
No it’s not the same thing. Kaepernick HAD a contract that would pay him $25 million. He OPTED OUT of that contract to attempt to get more money. That is unquestioned, PROVE-ABLE fact. And he did that on top of his on the field play getting worse and worse and worse. So a guy wanting more money, for worse play….WHILE causing controversy got him black listed. He’s not some innocent little pawn in this.
Colin K. was already sitting on the bench he wasnt canceled he just wasnt good. He got 15 more mins of fame with his kneeling it got him attention and people then think oh he was let go because of it no he was let go because he wasn’t needed.
Should be no controversy since one was anti Semitic and the other anti rascist. Pretty simple. Being anti Semitic is not ok and being a racist is not ok. Looking forward to seeing Pascal in the next Mandalorian.
Nothing she said was anti Semitic or racist your just a moron who had you special snowflake feelings hurt! Good it must be a miserable life to be offended by everything! Grow a backbone and stop being so pathetic you might not be so miserable!
Liberals, aka creative types with college educations who create the content you consume have decided to make decisions about how their content is used and this is bothering you?
From a business perspective that upper class family who watches the show, buys the products and travels to Disney to spend money goes way beyond the non-college educated white who is barely scraping by. At least you can still cling to the fact you are white and not educated as a point of pride.
I’m butt hurt because I’m a liberal. Free speech doesn’t protect itself and the first amendment only protects it from the government. When corporations corner the market on media platforms and start dictating terms to us, liberals don’t cheer that on, corporate schills do.
This used to be true, now the liberals are in the pockets of the monopolistic corporations. Time to get caught up. Go look at who creepy Joe has appointed. Time to realize the democratic party is the party that has been bought and paid for.
I am a liberal and I read what Carano wrote and what she said about Germany in WW11 was historically correct. So if people are going to get but hurt everytime somebody post the truth liberal or Conservative God help us all! Personally I think most conservatives are ether greedy selfish unempathetic jackasses! But I support their right to free speech especially when what is said is factually correct! If we start cancelling them for making truthful statements we don’t like! Then what’s next! The emplications are catastrophic. We are setting a very bad presidence! Next it could be you me the real news media. Not like the muckraker so called reporter that has been stirring the flames of this crap.This is all she seems to want to right stories about. They are always slanted. Reporting the Carano tweets! Like who cares what Joe Smho thinks. It’s know different then the Conservative crap on A.M. Radio and Fox News! Garbage! Develop a thicker skin American We have turned into a bunch Of whiney bitches.
Can we send all of the immigrants to your house so you can feed, clothe and provide healthcare? Or can we just raise your taxes to pay for entitled babies school loans? Do I need to go on about how your side is killing the country?
Will you just shut up man? I’m a conservative and Truthteller is telling the truth. Whereas you’re here just making the rest of us right wingers look bad.
I am a conservative and I appreciate your point of view, although I don’t think I am a greedy unempathetic jackass. Lol! We are allowed to disagree. We need to be good to each other while doing that. This is why we love this country! ❤
@TruthTeller, only reason I stopped to read any of this crap was your name Stood out from all these other individuals.
I don’t read what people say generally cause I feel it lowers my intelligence and also makes me wish we could take post these folks and put them on the front lines as canon fodder or at least have them sterilized so they don’t produce anymore problems.
That’s tough to say even for me but it’s a tough pill to swallow and hurts me to my very core to say it.
but with all I’m seeing and everywhere I go I see the lack of common since which isn’t so common these days, much less the love for our fellow man leaving individuals do to social media brain washing. One thing is true even though they said it never passed. “The Dumbing Down Of America Act Of 1964” in Virginia. The effects can surely be seen and felt everywhere…
Lord have mercy I got off topic quick fast and in a hurry. I’m sorry, please forgive me, all I came to say in the first place was God Bless you for taking time from your day to actually speak a little truth and being actually honest with your fellow peers. May God bless you and your family and may he keep you and yours safe and sound in these uncertain days and in our wild an crazy new world. Where it’s now safe for a full grown man to wear a pair of panties on his face. 🙂
She signed a contract with a morality clause and language to the effect of, “if you hurt the money, you are gone.” She was warned repeatedly to lay off the social media. She didnt, broke the clause and was terminated. No canceling, no drama, just a dumb employee testing their boss. Boss won. Again.
You sound so “mature”… Just your actions alone show how childish you sound… Please re read and try taking politics out and read things for they are.
Also read Anne Frank’s diary to know your history and then tell me how small you feel. Rhetoric this shows incompetence.
Try to be brilliant with a brilliant comment for discussion and conversation. Thank you.
Sincerely a NON republican.
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Politics aren’t what people think or know… It’s not black and white, if people knew their history in government, etc.
I have a low IQ child. He is not capable of college prep curriculum and never will be. Should he not be allowed a “low-level” education? I suppose I could keep him home so as not to offend you with his ignorance.
Really? This all started because of Donald. Donald is gone. Get over it. He’s an awesome instigator. He was an awful president and an awful person. So, stfu. Gina lost too. DT and Gina won’t make a damn difference. They aren’t Elon Musk. They aren’t Bill Gates. Basically, they haven’t contribute shit in society to make any difference to impact humankind. Gina and DT will be forgotten and maybe be remembered as being the luckiest people in this planet that blew it for their idiotic beliefs.
President was the best president in modern history and in time he will go down as one of the best presidents in us history. I’m sorry he hurt your snowflake feelings but he got things done and made our country strong and prosper! Those are facts he did more in 4 years than Obama and Bush combined! He was someone who cared about this country and the people of this country I’m sorry you are a idiot and listen to liars like CNN but facts are facts even if you dislike the man he got things done and couldn’t be bought unlike Obama and Biden! Biden has already destroyed thousands of jobs and he hasn’t even been *president for a month! This conversation has nothing to do with either president but you libtards can’t not talk about him because he lives in your snowflake heads rent free its funny and pathetic!
“Carano… divisive twitter posts…”
Ever noticed how only conservatives are described as “divisive”? That tells you the column is written by a Leftist. Of course, Leftists are only described as “dissenters”. Utter bull pippy.
This is wild! What ever happened to the first amendment? I know there’s some stuff you can’t say but she wasn’t inflicting pain on anybody, just speaking her mine. People really need to grow up and stop being so damn sensitive. This is the way the world works right now. Speak your mine girl!
Your first amendment doesn’t cover free speech in general, it covers not being prosecuted for it. Any business has the right to fire someone if they are not representing them the way they want.
Cancel culture is stupid, period. An actors beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with their portrayal of a character. What is the end goal here? That everyone that has an opinion that someone else disagrees with lose their jobs, so the only ones left with a means to support themselves and their families are the cancel culture idiots, leaving them in control of everything? Hey, wait a minute…
Chris, what is it that you don’t understand in regards to breach of contract, Moral Clauses and Ethics Policies signed by Corporations, Production Companies and their employees. Your beef is with Disney.
So because of someone’s personal political views they can now be fired and possibly financially ruined because of those beliefs. Obviously we have lost the right to support the Candidate of our choice.
Everyone needs to watch her interview on YouTube its very enlightening you might get a better perspective of what was actually meant and said. The thing is disney wasnt loosing much because of it now there has been thousands of canceled subscribers so if it was about the money maybe they should rethink this plan of theirs
It’s disgusting to give an emotionally incontinent whiny minority this kind of power over people’s lives. Im a libertarian and don’t agree with it left or right. We the adults need to put a stop to it. Neither Pascal’s or Carano’s comments are worthy of firing. If suggest the cast stand up and refuse to move forward without Carano, an actual strong woman who refused to back down from her simple inoffensive free speech.
Yep, it hurts to have your own play book used against you, but it is a natural and logical consequence. Stop double downing on dumb and you might get better results. And stop using false equivalence to back up dumb, Pedro is not the same as Gina, thank goodness.
I’m sorry idiot but liberals created cancel culture no conservative supporters cancel culture! Now if aidiot liberals do and say things we don’t like we just stop watching what they are but we don’t try to get them canceled that’s all on you idiot liberals! If someone doesn’t believe in everything you people believe in you try to have them fired we on the other hand believe in free speech
I used to believe in much of the same left right paradigm philosophy. Many years ago after countless let downs and endless frustration, I began to look at politics from a different angle. If you list all the things the power brokers of both parties in US politics agree on, that list is dramatically longer than the issues they seem publicly divided on. These “divisive issues” while not insignificant by any means, gay marriage, abortion etc they are crucial to some people individually but don’t directly effect the country as a whole. It’s these type of things we see them fight about publicly but it’s not much different than pro wrestling. When the rubber hits the road , these people are pals in spite of being in opposing parties. Where they agree is big banking , big business , major pharmaceutical companies, military spending and the industrial complex that has been with us since WW2 etc , these are the entities that are getting representation in DC. Certainly not any among us in these comments section where all you see is people going back and forth , blaming one side or the other , spouting talking points they just heard from their preferred propaganda outlets, cnn Fox msnbc , all the same. If you think your opposition is fellow American citizens and not this corrupt perversion of a republic we were intended to be , then sadly you are a major part of the problem and reason number one why things never seem to change unless they get worse. It’s a 2 party dictatorship. Heads or tails will always win and most are so far unable to realize it’s all the same coin, especially if the side they support happens to win , seems to blind people even further.
I did not fully read what either Gina and Pedro said, but Favreau needs to stand up and make a statement.
The point is if both Gina and Pedro have said controversial things, they should both be treated equally! Either they both stay or they both go (and therefore the show ends????)
And there in lies the problem in general these days. The one side that cry’s “treat everyone equally” is the very side that doesn’t! You cannot be appalled by one statement and not the other, otherwise “you” are part of the problem as well.
If Gina was given a warning and told she would be let go if she spoke up again….OK. But let’s hope that applies to Pedro as well.
But when she speaks out saying the virus is fake masks don’t work The vaccine is fake and doesn’t work When she has children young adults and the ill informed following her on social media that’s the problem.
That could literally harm people.
Freedom of speech has responsibilities and consequences
I’m a gay black man, but after reading your post I’ve been inspired to become a straight white man, thanks fellow republican for setting up to be white and right.
Exactly. Although I will say I wish she wasn’t fired. That will only add fuel to the fire when healthy debate, education and love go much further. She apparently learned from Pedro that pronouns mean something more to others, while she hadn’t understood their significance before that. And she evolved. That is how education works and why it is so important. Progression not regression. Her firing will only instigate regression, anger and revenge. Watch what jobs she takes moving forward as proof.
There was zero proof brought to court by Giuliani and co of dead people voting that would have flipped the tally enough for Trump to win. In total it was like a couple thousand nationwide and for both parties combined. Barr even attested to it as did the DOJ, Election committees, McConnell and Graham. Q, Trump and Guiliani will claim otherwise, but how often do they lie?
You are absurd. The fact you cannot see the prejudice in your own statement drives home the point GC was trying to make. Obama built the cages and the pictures used by the media to stoke the flames of hatred were from 2014 before Trump took office. You go read please!
You are a perfect example of the problem. Rarely have I seen such unabashed and brazen ignorance willingly put on display. To paraphrase what you said: She disagrees with me and got what she deserves. Pedro is woke so he’s good, even though his post included a picture that wasn’t even taken in the US that he was trying to pass off as taken in the US. Stunning and brave ?.
The consequence of maybe insidethemagic running out of asinine articles about Gina Carano. The desperate attempts of this site to squeeze out as much juice from her articles to get the same comments…
Kudo’s to the author for presenting the other side. Thank you.
As far as cancel culture is concerned, it has reached dangerous levels to the point that free speech is no longer allowed .
Before you get your panties in a was read what Benjamin Franklin started done 40 years before the founding of America.
“Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government; when this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved, and tyranny is erected on its ruins.”
1937 – On Freedom of Speech and the Press.
And IMHO the tyranny is starting you arrise as differing social media platforms seem something dangerous with the protection of some federal law.
I have been around over 50 years and see unfolding what we need Communist USSR to be in the 80’s. Before you say’So what’ , imagine what will happen when you’re speech is thwarted.
Love me or hate me….I don’t care. I do know that I see what we saw USSR to be in the 80s
Disney is too big. Considering it’s male chauvinist cartoons and racist content, they are not in a position to throw stones at Gina Carano. We all need to grow and learn. Just because a few loud voices screach doesn’t mean people should be fired. I grew up watching Bill Cosby. It was known what he was apparently. No one did anything until he was convicted by a court. Gina hasn’t broken any laws. She was harrassed terribly on twitter. People need to get over themselves.
She may or may not wanted to cause hate among ourselves, but she was right about something. We are becoming the same thing we have destroyed, the hate towards others, the lack of free speech, and starting unnecessary wars because of greed. She is just warning us of the path we are going to, we are merely another empire going into ruins unless we change the way we do things, that was what she said, see it your own way but his is the way I see it.
Here is the main thing for me: The Star Wars franchise is an escape from reality. A fantasy world that I’ve been obsessed with since I was a kid. I loved the Mandalorian and even enjoyed the Cara Dune character. But after she started posting pretty pointed and charged political opinions and being involved in one controversy after another, everytime she came on screen all I could think about was the drama of the week. She took me out of the Star Wars world. She let her need for attention from the reactions to her social media overtake the story and the fantasy, so her no longer being included in the show means I can focus on the story and nothing else. We don’t need the drama, just the talent, the story and the fun of the Star Wars characters and world.
They need to beg her to come back. I’ll be boycotting Disney until they do, not that I contribute any considerable portion to the corporation’s profits, but it’s the principle of the thing. I liked that character, I don’t care what she says or does off screen, I am content so long as her acting performance doesn’t break my suspension of disbelief.
What’s next, firing lead actors because they have unpaid parking fines? Blacklisting celebrities because one of their 8th grade essays contained a morally ambiguous perspective? This entire fiasco is completely surreal to me; perhaps it’s yet further evidence for simulation theory.
Tipper and Al Gore led the crusade against Rock, Rap and Pop in the 1990s. They founded the PMRC. Common knowledge. The assertion that conservatives are behind censorship and cancel culture is laughable.
Yup. Bob Jones University in the 1960’s cancelling The Beatles was some liberal stuff. You know those hippies at BOB JONES UNIVERSITY? You must think they had a time machine.
Like Pat Robertson in the 80’s? He was a pot smoker too, right? I guess you think Footloose was liberal propaganda to misplace blame.
Your pale attempts to rewrite history are laughable. Own up to it.
As a liberal I even feel cancel culture is just awful. Whatever happened to free speech? They should bring her back. Other people have said worst things and continued working.
Free speech isn’t exactly a thing under Production Companies. They make ALL employees sign NDA”s and Ethics Policies that severely limit Free Speech at the company’s sole discretion. Signed before production begins. The execs make the final calls. They did give her some leeway and had asked her to make a public apology for her final post. Apparently she made the decision to break contract, according to Disney. That was on her, fortunately or unfortunately. Her form of protest I imagine. She is a fighter afterall. She knew the ramifications. She signed the contracts. They have to go over that stuff with her. Unless we see a lawsuit on her behalf, we KNOW she made the decision for herself, otherwise Disney or the Production company may have broken contract. We have no clue what happened in the discussions with other employees with their posts. There are protocols involved like arbitration and mediation that are options prior to lawsuits. So we will have to see if anything comes down the pipeline.
Who cares she sucked as an actress anyways!! Her acting skills is horrible and I’ve been saying that for years. She is the same character in every role the same monotone bad ass LOL it’s basically the same character she played in Deadpool but minus the super powers LOL
If your career is affected by the actions of your public opinions you should use care and caution on what opinions you voice. Sex, religion and politics are hot points and IMO should be avoided.
Take a lesson from Dolly Parton.
That being said, Carano’s social media comments weren’t any more inflammatory than others from Lucas Film i.e. Pedro Pascal, however Carano’s viewpoints are Conservative which is why she was fired – under the excuse that her posts were inflammatory.
Everyone should see that, even Liberals. You know this.
What happened to each person voicing their opinion?? Last one checked, didn’t the constitution give us the right to free speech? Don’t we have the right to our own opinion? Where did the road turn to my opinion is the only one that matters?
Hear we go again…. Free speech means the government can’t restrict your speech. Disney is a private corporation and can hold employees accountable for saying things the company disagrees with. Carano’s speech wasn’t infringed, she was held accountable for saying crappy things and being a bit of a jerk about it by digging in her heels. She can say whatever she wants, but that doesn’t mean there are no consequences for what she says
Susan, no one stopped her right to free speech. She can say whatever she wants. And her employer who had her sign NDAs, Moral Clauses and Ethics Policies has the right to fire her for breaking her contract with THEM. She still has the right to Free Speech. She has not been censored or even edited. Why aren’t people understanding this?
Imagine being upset for Pedro comparing concentration camps to concentration camps! The horror!
Oh dear snowflake conservatives, before you say “it was under obama!” That is correct. Trump added steroids to it and made it much worse (which is documented).
Gina Carano thought being disagreed with because of political opinion means she is being hunted and put into camps.
They want conservatives re-educated. And deprogrammed. That doesn’t ring a bell? I would protect your leftist beliefs as well if they tried to silence you.
Pedro should be fired because he did the same exact thing or Gina rehired. If we are going to make a standard, it should apply to everyone equally. In this case, it could be seen as validation for Ginas point, which is counterproductive to the reason why she was fired.
I think actors who take their work seriously need to do just that. If they want a platform to stoke controversy, then go into politics & earn your following for just that. Nobody who watches Star Wars, wants to hear politics. She knew what she was doing & instead of just doing her job, she chose otherwise. She earn her following for the show & obviously had other intentions of her work. She stated lies & things that many viewed disgusting. I don’t feel bad, she had a dream job with many percs that would of put her in Star Wars legacy. She obviously didn’t care about her fans that much. She will be forgotten & irrelevant now that she doesn’t have a huge platform to abuse.
Do better than defining women by their relationship to men- mentioning her father in the introduction implies her notoriety is because of him, and diminishes her responsibility for her successes and failures. She earned and lost work because of her actions, let her own it.
And with all the Buffy and Angel controversy and it didn’t start there Ray Fischer had problems on the X-men set! Curious to know what Disney’s views are on Wheldon?
Two heards of mindless sheep trained to hate by politicians as pawns in a game of power.
If you support her losing her job you support Kaepernic losing his. Same reasons, embarrassed employer.
If you justify your evil by saying someone else’s did it two you are evil. The rest is just lies and excuses for being bad humans.
She shouldn’t have been fired. Plain and simple. We don’t fire people over political beliefs otherwise Pedro should have been dumped too. But because no one gets outraged when it comes to conservatives or Trump it’s fine. Different standards for different folks. I’ll be following her next project as well as the Mando. Just baffling we get a strong female character and then cancel it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thrawn, with all due respect, who is “we?” The Production Company fired her for breaking her contract, not “we.” Now if you want to debate cancel culture and if fan sentiment played into the Production Company’s decision, we can argue that until our fingers fall off. But until that company says that fan sentiment instigated their decision, “we” didn’t have any effect. What their statement said was that the company felt her words and actions were offensive enough to break her Moral Clause and Ethics Policy, in a decision made by them, not “we.” They warned her and she chose to continue, knowing full well the consequences. “We” had nothing to do with it.
Comments on this thread further prove to me what I know is true: no movement or political group today is about equality or ending hate. They’re only about changing the balance of power and changing who we’re allowed to hate.
Kenneth, with all due respect, “changing who we are allowed to hate,” really? What does that even mean? Why would we be so focused upon who we are “allowed” to hate? When love is the answer, why are some so stuck on our grip with hate? Has modern Disney taught us nothing?
Some want to decide who others can love and marry. Others are fighting for inclusivity and equality across the board in regards to marriage, pay, healthcare opportunity, schooling, infrastructure, etc. That’s love, not hate. Now if you want to call that socialism, we can debate that. But “changing who we are allowed to hate,” I don’t understand that rationale at all.
Disneymom, they do have rules about that. Hence, her firing due to breaking their contract. All their employees sign NDAs, Ethics Policies and Moral Clauses. That’s what this is all about. Disney wants their company to be portrayed in a particular light and has their employees sign off on a particular code of conduct. She has the right to say whatever she wants, just not as their employee under their contract.
Why would you want to get a person fired for having their own opinion? Why is it if peoples opinions aren’t the same as yours they should shut up. It’s a Stupid way to live and really just moronic. Fire someone for an opinion… WOW.
#fireidiots!!!
I don’t agree with the harassment that she got, that was immensely uncalled for, but I can see why Disney wouldn’t want a person, who has made fun of trans people, mask wearing, and posting an image that compares either political party as being anywhere similar to being treated as the Jews were around WWII. Especially after they had warned her about it.
Freedom of speech, better watch what you say. (Ice-T album). Gina is a strong woman and should be able to speak her mind. If don’t like what she says, that’s her opinion and all those snowflakes should understand that not all people are sheep some have a mind of their own and have the right to say what they want. I hope that Disney grows a pair of BALLS and PUT GINA BACK ON MANDALORIAN and to hell with crybabies on what she has to say. If Gina is not back then I hope the directors and actors and actresses stay up for her and shut down Mandalorian.
Paul, that Ice-T album was censored by the PMRC, yes Tipper Gore. Gina was not censored. She gets to say whatever she wants. Companies have the ability to set standards of conduct for their employees. The comparison of that album is apples and oranges. Govt restrictions vs corporation restrictions. Not that I agree with either.
You keep making this argument… and also keep IGNORING the fact that Pedro made the same politically charged posts and he wasn’t punished. Disney didn’t fire her for “breaching contract”… they fired her for being a conservative AND YOU KNOW THIS so stop lying.
Misogyny is acceptable if it is against conservative women. Also, kinda ironic that a series based on fighting for freedom and rebellion fires a person for exercising their freedom when not on company time (Colin Kaepernick).
All liberals do is destroy everything great! You snowflakes can’t handle free speech and have to cancel everything you disagree with! If you don’t like something do what conservatives do just stop watching what you disagree with and stop trying to cancel and destroy people lives just because your feeling got hurt its pathetic!
All of this happened because manbabies and womanbabies are too immature and ignorant to understand a metaphor.
Listen, 60iq sjw ; one day, they are going to come for you and then nobody will defend you because you approved every censorship corporations did.
By the way, thoses that say “it’s a corporation, they have all the rights to censorship.” are the worst. Corporations are starting to have very big monopoly and are starting to have so much power that i would not be surprised if they started their own army. Most contracts corporations do are unacceptable and people sign it because they have no choice except leave or accept.
Phil, I’m confused, we are “the worst” for stating the facts about companies and corporations, but you then further agree that corporations have that power and those contracts? Are you factoring yourself into the “they” in “they are worst?” You are stating our exact point. Free Speech is not corporate. However, I do agree with you that corporations have too much power. But that doesn’t give employees a free pass. They still sign. It is their choice.
Ed, I actually agree with you that it is a bit ironic. However, within the company’s discretion. It’s not a government agency.
With companies like the UFC, employees are even contracted to wear certain gear (Reebok) and to not participate in certain activities that may endanger the employee. Donald Cerrone is a perfect example. They do not have a policy for speech and can say whatever whenever. It is up to the individual company.
The WWE has NDAs and codes of conduct policies and also limit what can be said in social media, to the tune of taking over an employee’s social media account. They can take a percentage of their social media income as well. Its contracted that way.
Colin Kaepernick is a great example of a man standing up against police brutality (clearly not all police are guilty of this) and standing up for equality by kneeling, knowing full well if he CONTINUED to take a knee he may be fired. And he continued to do so in protest, just like Gina.
Why is it that actors can present views that many perceive as very liberal with no consequences yet if they have views that are conservative they get punished? You don’t need to tell me, it is because the media, including movies and television are very liberal and stick together. Sad to me!?
Wow. Most of y’all are stupid AF. Cancel culture is practiced on both sides. It’s in everyone’s faces now because the media is mainly left and terrified of the woke left (smh). The right isn’t as effective at cancel culture because it’s based on hate or fear or ignorance and the left is effective because although based on ignorance and hate, it is couched in “I’m a good person and this is what the left says a good person does now”.
Carano’s mistake was comparing conservatives to the Jews who died in the Holocaust. Pascal compared trump supporters to those killing the Jews. There is a difference but it shouldn’t have led to carano being fired. It wasn’t anti Semitic but it was an ignorant stretch of the imagination.
And lol to those conservatives here who think that the right didn’t try to cancel Colin Kaepernick and the NFL. They def canceled Kaepeenick because teams were deathly afraid to sign him because of the right-wing backlash that would’ve come.
1. Both actors likely have a whole page included in their contracts about social media, as ALL big companies require now.
2. Pedro was told by Disney to knock it off and he did.
3. Gina was told by Disney to knock it off and she didn’t.
4. Favreau went to bat for her and this was how she showed her appreciation.
5. No doubt she was also warned by her agency, which is why they dropped her because that’s a fat commission check they’re not getting anymore.
She’s not special and she’s not a victim. And she’s too damned old to act like a stubborn, spoiled brat.
Anyway, it’s not like the show is losing a GOOD actress. She was the weakest link in that cast. Even the puppet had more range.
Whether what she said was right or wrong shouldn’t matter. We’re supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Why shouldn’t she be able to express her opinion? You don’t have to like it. You have the option to ignore it. Even better, it could actually open up an intelligent conversation that others can learn from. We need to stop “cancelling” people because they have a different opinion. It’s no different than the censorship other generations have fought against. Remember countless generations of Americans died to protect these freedoms. Its time to stop this insanity before we destroy democracy.
I think the people telling lies about the election and storming the Capitol to overthrow the government did a pretty good job of trying to destroy democracy. Gina got fired because Disney did the math and decided there are more people against her that would stop spending money than there are people that would stop spending money if she stayed. It just means the people upset with the firing are in the minority. Just free market economy at work.
Which lies are those? The ones about the 2016 election not being legit, or that Trump was “colluding” with Russia and a pawn of Putin? Those lies were spouted for 3 years straight and you didn’t care. As for the storming of the Capitol – that side has 300 million guns, and they all forgot to bring them, while wearing capes and viking horns and minding the purple rope barriers. So scary! You do know the Capitol was bombed twice before? Once by Clinton’s friend whom he pardoned, and once again by Obama’s political mentor. Again – you didn’t care because its all just team sports.
Would be cool if Favreau found his nutsack and put a stop to this garbage. Don’t really care about American politics, being that I’m not American and don’t consume as much CNN as my fellow commenters here; I just want Mandalorian to be a good show.
Kathleen Kennedy is a garbage human being. The best thing she could do is “fade in” to a new job washing dishes and knitting sweaters. She doesn’t belong at Lucas Films she belongs in the unemployment line.
I came for disney magic and what I ended up having was a strong desire for popcorn. I must get away and can’t stop staring. The crazy is leaking out of twitter and staining my favorite happy place. Wtf trolls?!? This part of the internet doesnt want you!
I came for disney magic and what I ended up having was a strong desire for popcorn. I must get away and can’t stop staring. The crazy is leaking out of twitter and staining my favorite happy place. Wtf trolls?!? This part of the internet doesnt want you!
Honestly who cares?! The insurrectionist right like to bad mouth HOLLYWEIRD but take up for Carano like she’s some kind of war hero for blabbing her mouth. They think Disney gives a poop what they do? Disney has grown more and more inclusive despite the soccer moms threatening to cancel their 400 dollar super saver coupon vacation packages! Fools!
movies. Favreau told CNBC (huh?) that Scorsese and Coppola “are my heroes, and they have earned the right to express their opinions. I wouldn’t be doing what I’m doing if they didn’t carve the way. They served as a source of inspiration, you can go all the way back to
Comments for Favreau & Pascal Caught in ‘Mandalorian’ Controversy
Daddy Piranha
“What Are the Repercussions of the ‘Mandalorian’ Controversy?”
Oooh! I know this one!
Butt-hurt conservative snowflakes are going to whine when they find out that the cancel culture they created is now going to be used against them as they slowly slide further into the minority kicking and screaming about how they are being discriminated against when it is really just that they don’t like that facts don’t care about their feelings.
bob
you mean what liberals created
Daddy Piranha
Oh? Freewheeling hippies, inner city youths, academic liberals, and Bernie Sanders were out there trying to cancel rock and roll music (and rap and metal and…), the votes of African Americans, flag burners, gay people coming out of the closet, “communists” in Hollywood, anyone speaking ill of the military or police, people who wouldn’t recite the pledge of allegiance, people who wouldn’t stand for the anthem, Dungeons and Dragons, Marilyn Manson, Sinead O’Connor, The Dixie Chicks, and The Teletubbies?
No, Bob. I was talking about conservatives. And apparently you.
Daddy D
Ok now that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day . . . . a complete wack-o on the left claiming the conservatives created cancel culture! What actually are you drinking or smoking? Any liberal will tell you that they created “cancel culture” but they prefer you call it “teaching diversity and inclusivity” go have another drink daddy!
Mark
Why can people no longer believe what they want in this country of ours? I don’t understand. How do we expect a person to go their whole lives without offending someone? When did people take opinions other then theirs as offensive? By having separate ideas and observing, accepting our differences, and working together, we create a better future. If so many of us get cought up in something miss said or badly worded to heart, no one is safe. Walking on eggshells becomes the norm and everyone becomes uneasy. I guess what I’m trying to say is, so what she had her own opinions on things. Firing a person for standing on what they believe could not be less American. This comment will probably call on deaf ears, but then again, maybe someone will read it and decide to try on someone else’s shoes for a while and not jump to offense, even if they don’t like that person. Peace and love to all.
Zen Phoenix
Conservatives have been cancelling for decades. Poster offered excellent examples.
I would add N.W.A. for further hypocrisy as far as all these right-wingers go: you’re all saying it’s “the libs” who cancel anything they don’t like…but look how conservatives treated NWA. Were they offensive? Sure. But Cancel Culture has been embraced by the right for a long time now.
Bob
And you tried cancelling the lives of ANYONE who doesn’t think like you. We have to fire Gina for a comparison to the holocaust but in all actuality her post was on point
She was saying how we are headed down the wrong road and we need to check ourselves because just because it’s a political party doesn’t mean it has no value so me not being friends with a democrat because they are a democrat is discrimination. Oh and her “transphobic” comment? putting pronouns in your bio is not a requirement to be on social media so when people are demanding that she put pronouns she put r2d2 sounds to be like shut. Up. I am not transphobic i have lots of friends who are but just because you don’t put the right pronouns in your bio doesn’t make you a transphobic.
I would also like to bring up how you guys cancelled splash mountain or was that the cOnSeRvAtIvEs
Daddy Piranha
Wait, Bob. I thought your point was that liberals created cancel culture. Then you give a bunch of examples from the last year or two?
Focus, Bob. Focus.
Cancel culture is liberal
What you mentioned has nothing to do with cancel culture because cancel culture came around in 2017 with the metoo movement
A liberal movement
But lets just assume that you are right and it did happen earlier than that
The commuists in hollywood movement? That was liberals
Listen to some Glenn beck
Trying to cancel music artists thats more both sides than just conservatives (morgan wallen being an example of music artists on liberal side recently)
Flag burners are not so much cancelling rather condemning people for disrespecting this country on an unbelievable scale
Cancel culture is terrible and should never be used ever
Personal life should never affect your job and yes gina carano should be brought back
So
CFG
Piranha, that’s as spot on. He’s so caught up on the title “Cancel Culture” that he doesn’t know the history of having your political and social beliefs held against you. He obviously has never heard of the McCarthy Hearings, Canada Lee, Hazel Scott, the witch hunts being backed by showbiz giants like Ed Sullivan who was accusing people of being “Reds”, House Committee for Un-American Activities infringing on Free Speech when it was as actually Free Speech and not Carano nor Trump’s FIGHT SPEECH, which is not protected by the First Amendment. Conservative Cancel Culture almost destroyed Humphrey Bogart, who they also branded as Communists. Conservatives, aside from the aforementioned cancelling if Rock n Roll, Civil Rights, free speech and the like, were THE first Cancel Culture and still are, but only if you’re Liberal.
Kenneth E Hoffman
Cancel culture attacks people. Censorship from conservatives attacks ideas.
One is a closed minded movement. The other is ideological terrorism that goes often people
Sue
You have no real idea of what was going on in Hollywood or those McCarthy hearings or why so many people were unjustly accused of something they did not do. Hollywood was “weeding” out anyone who did not subscribe to the very well planned cancelled culture we are seeing now. As for Trump – he NEVER once said anything that could be construed as hate speech or inciting a riot. And Gina is spot on in her comparison.
Jim
You’re obviously a brainwashed liberal commie bastard! Move along now hippie! Your hateful liberal nutjob ideas are not welcome in reality.
Nate
Your just simply a moron! All there is to it!
Nelson Kerr
Do the 50s Blacklists, The Dixie Chicks and kneeling football players ring any bells?
Nate
Conservatives never tried to cancel the NFL for the football players disrespectful taking a knee we just stopped watching. The problem with you liberals is you don’t understand the difference between a conservative deciding to not watch something because we disagree with what’s going VS liberals getting people fired and trying ruin their lives over something liberals don’t like.
Devin
It’s the same thing. Nobody would hire Kaepernick because of the backlash the NFL was getting, so he lost his job because of it. And when Nike hired him as a spokeperson, the conservatives went out and burned their Nike stuff because of it. And I’m pretty sure the #canceldisneyplus isn’t a liberal thing
Sue
When in uniform you are on the job and therefore your opinion does not count at time. Colin had no business kneeling during the national athem as a protest. He can protest on his own time. Besides, from what I am told he was a horrible player anyway (I don’t watch football).
Dan
No it’s not the same thing. Kaepernick HAD a contract that would pay him $25 million. He OPTED OUT of that contract to attempt to get more money. That is unquestioned, PROVE-ABLE fact. And he did that on top of his on the field play getting worse and worse and worse. So a guy wanting more money, for worse play….WHILE causing controversy got him black listed. He’s not some innocent little pawn in this.
Chris
Colin K. was already sitting on the bench he wasnt canceled he just wasnt good. He got 15 more mins of fame with his kneeling it got him attention and people then think oh he was let go because of it no he was let go because he wasn’t needed.
B
I for one have already canceled Disney plus
Pris
Should be no controversy since one was anti Semitic and the other anti rascist. Pretty simple. Being anti Semitic is not ok and being a racist is not ok. Looking forward to seeing Pascal in the next Mandalorian.
Nate
Nothing she said was anti Semitic or racist your just a moron who had you special snowflake feelings hurt! Good it must be a miserable life to be offended by everything! Grow a backbone and stop being so pathetic you might not be so miserable!
Manny
Liberals, aka creative types with college educations who create the content you consume have decided to make decisions about how their content is used and this is bothering you?
From a business perspective that upper class family who watches the show, buys the products and travels to Disney to spend money goes way beyond the non-college educated white who is barely scraping by. At least you can still cling to the fact you are white and not educated as a point of pride.
Ed Ross
I’m butt hurt because I’m a liberal. Free speech doesn’t protect itself and the first amendment only protects it from the government. When corporations corner the market on media platforms and start dictating terms to us, liberals don’t cheer that on, corporate schills do.
Michael a
It’s liberals who want to break up corporations in monopolies the conservatives protect the corporations because they are controlled by them
r kar
This used to be true, now the liberals are in the pockets of the monopolistic corporations. Time to get caught up. Go look at who creepy Joe has appointed. Time to realize the democratic party is the party that has been bought and paid for.
Mike
No, just no.
First you mean Republicans not conservatives.
Second you don’t really understand who owns what.
Finally the elite Democrats and Republicans like big corporations. The rank and file who are for small business do not love them.
Seriously you sound comically uneducated.
Paul
Right… Well if liberals are all about taking down the big corporations, now is the time for us to join forces.
In-The-Middle
Exactly
Truthteller
I am a liberal and I read what Carano wrote and what she said about Germany in WW11 was historically correct. So if people are going to get but hurt everytime somebody post the truth liberal or Conservative God help us all! Personally I think most conservatives are ether greedy selfish unempathetic jackasses! But I support their right to free speech especially when what is said is factually correct! If we start cancelling them for making truthful statements we don’t like! Then what’s next! The emplications are catastrophic. We are setting a very bad presidence! Next it could be you me the real news media. Not like the muckraker so called reporter that has been stirring the flames of this crap.This is all she seems to want to right stories about. They are always slanted. Reporting the Carano tweets! Like who cares what Joe Smho thinks. It’s know different then the Conservative crap on A.M. Radio and Fox News! Garbage! Develop a thicker skin American We have turned into a bunch Of whiney bitches.
John
Can we send all of the immigrants to your house so you can feed, clothe and provide healthcare? Or can we just raise your taxes to pay for entitled babies school loans? Do I need to go on about how your side is killing the country?
Everyone Deserves a voice
Will you just shut up man? I’m a conservative and Truthteller is telling the truth. Whereas you’re here just making the rest of us right wingers look bad.
CC
I am a conservative and I appreciate your point of view, although I don’t think I am a greedy unempathetic jackass. Lol! We are allowed to disagree. We need to be good to each other while doing that. This is why we love this country! ❤
SF
wrong
Desolate
@TruthTeller, only reason I stopped to read any of this crap was your name Stood out from all these other individuals.
I don’t read what people say generally cause I feel it lowers my intelligence and also makes me wish we could take post these folks and put them on the front lines as canon fodder or at least have them sterilized so they don’t produce anymore problems.
That’s tough to say even for me but it’s a tough pill to swallow and hurts me to my very core to say it.
but with all I’m seeing and everywhere I go I see the lack of common since which isn’t so common these days, much less the love for our fellow man leaving individuals do to social media brain washing. One thing is true even though they said it never passed. “The Dumbing Down Of America Act Of 1964” in Virginia. The effects can surely be seen and felt everywhere…
Lord have mercy I got off topic quick fast and in a hurry. I’m sorry, please forgive me, all I came to say in the first place was God Bless you for taking time from your day to actually speak a little truth and being actually honest with your fellow peers. May God bless you and your family and may he keep you and yours safe and sound in these uncertain days and in our wild an crazy new world. Where it’s now safe for a full grown man to wear a pair of panties on his face. 🙂
Michael A
+1000
Ike
She signed a contract with a morality clause and language to the effect of, “if you hurt the money, you are gone.” She was warned repeatedly to lay off the social media. She didnt, broke the clause and was terminated. No canceling, no drama, just a dumb employee testing their boss. Boss won. Again.
Liza
You sound so “mature”… Just your actions alone show how childish you sound… Please re read and try taking politics out and read things for they are.
Also read Anne Frank’s diary to know your history and then tell me how small you feel. Rhetoric this shows incompetence.
Try to be brilliant with a brilliant comment for discussion and conversation. Thank you.
Sincerely a NON republican.
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Politics aren’t what people think or know… It’s not black and white, if people knew their history in government, etc.
In-The-Middle
Our shool system has failed, at least in teaching history.
Gina
I have a low IQ child. He is not capable of college prep curriculum and never will be. Should he not be allowed a “low-level” education? I suppose I could keep him home so as not to offend you with his ignorance.
stan kinaz
Really? This all started because of Donald. Donald is gone. Get over it. He’s an awesome instigator. He was an awful president and an awful person. So, stfu. Gina lost too. DT and Gina won’t make a damn difference. They aren’t Elon Musk. They aren’t Bill Gates. Basically, they haven’t contribute shit in society to make any difference to impact humankind. Gina and DT will be forgotten and maybe be remembered as being the luckiest people in this planet that blew it for their idiotic beliefs.
Nate
President was the best president in modern history and in time he will go down as one of the best presidents in us history. I’m sorry he hurt your snowflake feelings but he got things done and made our country strong and prosper! Those are facts he did more in 4 years than Obama and Bush combined! He was someone who cared about this country and the people of this country I’m sorry you are a idiot and listen to liars like CNN but facts are facts even if you dislike the man he got things done and couldn’t be bought unlike Obama and Biden! Biden has already destroyed thousands of jobs and he hasn’t even been *president for a month! This conversation has nothing to do with either president but you libtards can’t not talk about him because he lives in your snowflake heads rent free its funny and pathetic!
Scott
“Carano… divisive twitter posts…”
Ever noticed how only conservatives are described as “divisive”? That tells you the column is written by a Leftist. Of course, Leftists are only described as “dissenters”. Utter bull pippy.
Joe
This is wild! What ever happened to the first amendment? I know there’s some stuff you can’t say but she wasn’t inflicting pain on anybody, just speaking her mine. People really need to grow up and stop being so damn sensitive. This is the way the world works right now. Speak your mine girl!
Devin
Your first amendment doesn’t cover free speech in general, it covers not being prosecuted for it. Any business has the right to fire someone if they are not representing them the way they want.
Chris Kinney
Cancel culture is stupid, period. An actors beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with their portrayal of a character. What is the end goal here? That everyone that has an opinion that someone else disagrees with lose their jobs, so the only ones left with a means to support themselves and their families are the cancel culture idiots, leaving them in control of everything? Hey, wait a minute…
In-The-Middle
Chris, what is it that you don’t understand in regards to breach of contract, Moral Clauses and Ethics Policies signed by Corporations, Production Companies and their employees. Your beef is with Disney.
JB
So because of someone’s personal political views they can now be fired and possibly financially ruined because of those beliefs. Obviously we have lost the right to support the Candidate of our choice.
Todd
Everyone needs to watch her interview on YouTube its very enlightening you might get a better perspective of what was actually meant and said. The thing is disney wasnt loosing much because of it now there has been thousands of canceled subscribers so if it was about the money maybe they should rethink this plan of theirs
Robo
It’s disgusting to give an emotionally incontinent whiny minority this kind of power over people’s lives. Im a libertarian and don’t agree with it left or right. We the adults need to put a stop to it. Neither Pascal’s or Carano’s comments are worthy of firing. If suggest the cast stand up and refuse to move forward without Carano, an actual strong woman who refused to back down from her simple inoffensive free speech.
Chris P
Yep, it hurts to have your own play book used against you, but it is a natural and logical consequence. Stop double downing on dumb and you might get better results. And stop using false equivalence to back up dumb, Pedro is not the same as Gina, thank goodness.
FCR
Cancel culture conservatives created? Son you need to get off the drugs get your facts straight. Spending too much of your time at “peaceful protests”
Nate
I’m sorry idiot but liberals created cancel culture no conservative supporters cancel culture! Now if aidiot liberals do and say things we don’t like we just stop watching what they are but we don’t try to get them canceled that’s all on you idiot liberals! If someone doesn’t believe in everything you people believe in you try to have them fired we on the other hand believe in free speech
jaded
Tipper Gore.
J. Harris
I used to believe in much of the same left right paradigm philosophy. Many years ago after countless let downs and endless frustration, I began to look at politics from a different angle. If you list all the things the power brokers of both parties in US politics agree on, that list is dramatically longer than the issues they seem publicly divided on. These “divisive issues” while not insignificant by any means, gay marriage, abortion etc they are crucial to some people individually but don’t directly effect the country as a whole. It’s these type of things we see them fight about publicly but it’s not much different than pro wrestling. When the rubber hits the road , these people are pals in spite of being in opposing parties. Where they agree is big banking , big business , major pharmaceutical companies, military spending and the industrial complex that has been with us since WW2 etc , these are the entities that are getting representation in DC. Certainly not any among us in these comments section where all you see is people going back and forth , blaming one side or the other , spouting talking points they just heard from their preferred propaganda outlets, cnn Fox msnbc , all the same. If you think your opposition is fellow American citizens and not this corrupt perversion of a republic we were intended to be , then sadly you are a major part of the problem and reason number one why things never seem to change unless they get worse. It’s a 2 party dictatorship. Heads or tails will always win and most are so far unable to realize it’s all the same coin, especially if the side they support happens to win , seems to blind people even further.
Dan
Cancel culture that conservatives created? LOLOLOL. Do you ever wake up and realize how utterly dense you are?
Aunt Jamima….canceled due to being racist…..
Uncle Ben’s….canceled due to being racist….
Statues of Abe Lincoln….torn down due to being racist
And the list goes on and on. You liberals are something else. Call everything racist…..then blame the other side for cancel culture. LOL
KenG
I did not fully read what either Gina and Pedro said, but Favreau needs to stand up and make a statement.
The point is if both Gina and Pedro have said controversial things, they should both be treated equally! Either they both stay or they both go (and therefore the show ends????)
And there in lies the problem in general these days. The one side that cry’s “treat everyone equally” is the very side that doesn’t! You cannot be appalled by one statement and not the other, otherwise “you” are part of the problem as well.
If Gina was given a warning and told she would be let go if she spoke up again….OK. But let’s hope that applies to Pedro as well.
Michael A
I could care less if Cara humped Trump all day.
But when she speaks out saying the virus is fake masks don’t work The vaccine is fake and doesn’t work When she has children young adults and the ill informed following her on social media that’s the problem.
That could literally harm people.
Freedom of speech has responsibilities and consequences
Burt
Hey there fellow Republican, I too am a gay black man that hates Jews and gay black men.
Erin
you forgot to say OJ didn’t do it! lol
Burt
I’m a gay black man, but after reading your post I’ve been inspired to become a straight white man, thanks fellow republican for setting up to be white and right.
La'Quisha
If you’re looking for a job you don’t want to do that, just stay black and gay, that way any potential employer can check off two boxes 🙂
In-The-Middle
Exactly. Although I will say I wish she wasn’t fired. That will only add fuel to the fire when healthy debate, education and love go much further. She apparently learned from Pedro that pronouns mean something more to others, while she hadn’t understood their significance before that. And she evolved. That is how education works and why it is so important. Progression not regression. Her firing will only instigate regression, anger and revenge. Watch what jobs she takes moving forward as proof.
In-The-Middle
There was zero proof brought to court by Giuliani and co of dead people voting that would have flipped the tally enough for Trump to win. In total it was like a couple thousand nationwide and for both parties combined. Barr even attested to it as did the DOJ, Election committees, McConnell and Graham. Q, Trump and Guiliani will claim otherwise, but how often do they lie?
Dmagers
You are absurd. The fact you cannot see the prejudice in your own statement drives home the point GC was trying to make. Obama built the cages and the pictures used by the media to stoke the flames of hatred were from 2014 before Trump took office. You go read please!
Blindfools
You are a perfect example of the problem. Rarely have I seen such unabashed and brazen ignorance willingly put on display. To paraphrase what you said: She disagrees with me and got what she deserves. Pedro is woke so he’s good, even though his post included a picture that wasn’t even taken in the US that he was trying to pass off as taken in the US. Stunning and brave ?.
EricJ
Let’s simplify it: Gina was the Charlie Sheen of Lucasfilm.
Daddy Piranha
Without the screen presence.
Annoyed
The consequence of maybe insidethemagic running out of asinine articles about Gina Carano. The desperate attempts of this site to squeeze out as much juice from her articles to get the same comments…
Enough already
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I saw this come up.
“Again with her? Jesus, these guys seem obsessed.”
Greg
Kudo’s to the author for presenting the other side. Thank you.
As far as cancel culture is concerned, it has reached dangerous levels to the point that free speech is no longer allowed .
Before you get your panties in a was read what Benjamin Franklin started done 40 years before the founding of America.
“Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government; when this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved, and tyranny is erected on its ruins.”
1937 – On Freedom of Speech and the Press.
And IMHO the tyranny is starting you arrise as differing social media platforms seem something dangerous with the protection of some federal law.
I have been around over 50 years and see unfolding what we need Communist USSR to be in the 80’s. Before you say’So what’ , imagine what will happen when you’re speech is thwarted.
Love me or hate me….I don’t care. I do know that I see what we saw USSR to be in the 80s
Motor
Disney is too big. Considering it’s male chauvinist cartoons and racist content, they are not in a position to throw stones at Gina Carano. We all need to grow and learn. Just because a few loud voices screach doesn’t mean people should be fired. I grew up watching Bill Cosby. It was known what he was apparently. No one did anything until he was convicted by a court. Gina hasn’t broken any laws. She was harrassed terribly on twitter. People need to get over themselves.
Devin
What content are you referring to?
Roland
She may or may not wanted to cause hate among ourselves, but she was right about something. We are becoming the same thing we have destroyed, the hate towards others, the lack of free speech, and starting unnecessary wars because of greed. She is just warning us of the path we are going to, we are merely another empire going into ruins unless we change the way we do things, that was what she said, see it your own way but his is the way I see it.
Your Mama
Here is the main thing for me: The Star Wars franchise is an escape from reality. A fantasy world that I’ve been obsessed with since I was a kid. I loved the Mandalorian and even enjoyed the Cara Dune character. But after she started posting pretty pointed and charged political opinions and being involved in one controversy after another, everytime she came on screen all I could think about was the drama of the week. She took me out of the Star Wars world. She let her need for attention from the reactions to her social media overtake the story and the fantasy, so her no longer being included in the show means I can focus on the story and nothing else. We don’t need the drama, just the talent, the story and the fun of the Star Wars characters and world.
Seditious
They need to beg her to come back. I’ll be boycotting Disney until they do, not that I contribute any considerable portion to the corporation’s profits, but it’s the principle of the thing. I liked that character, I don’t care what she says or does off screen, I am content so long as her acting performance doesn’t break my suspension of disbelief.
What’s next, firing lead actors because they have unpaid parking fines? Blacklisting celebrities because one of their 8th grade essays contained a morally ambiguous perspective? This entire fiasco is completely surreal to me; perhaps it’s yet further evidence for simulation theory.
Frank
Tipper and Al Gore led the crusade against Rock, Rap and Pop in the 1990s. They founded the PMRC. Common knowledge. The assertion that conservatives are behind censorship and cancel culture is laughable.
Frank's vision isn't 20/20
Yup. Bob Jones University in the 1960’s cancelling The Beatles was some liberal stuff. You know those hippies at BOB JONES UNIVERSITY? You must think they had a time machine.
Like Pat Robertson in the 80’s? He was a pot smoker too, right? I guess you think Footloose was liberal propaganda to misplace blame.
Your pale attempts to rewrite history are laughable. Own up to it.
Latino heat
As a liberal I even feel cancel culture is just awful. Whatever happened to free speech? They should bring her back. Other people have said worst things and continued working.
In-The-Middle
Free speech isn’t exactly a thing under Production Companies. They make ALL employees sign NDA”s and Ethics Policies that severely limit Free Speech at the company’s sole discretion. Signed before production begins. The execs make the final calls. They did give her some leeway and had asked her to make a public apology for her final post. Apparently she made the decision to break contract, according to Disney. That was on her, fortunately or unfortunately. Her form of protest I imagine. She is a fighter afterall. She knew the ramifications. She signed the contracts. They have to go over that stuff with her. Unless we see a lawsuit on her behalf, we KNOW she made the decision for herself, otherwise Disney or the Production company may have broken contract. We have no clue what happened in the discussions with other employees with their posts. There are protocols involved like arbitration and mediation that are options prior to lawsuits. So we will have to see if anything comes down the pipeline.
Burt
As a jew, I too hate Jews. We should only use trump branded boxes to keep our jews safe and separate
Jennifer Napolitano Harris
Disney and Lucas films should be ashamed of themselves.
Revan
Don’t worry they are crying into their sacks of money while everyone screams at them.
In-The-Middle
Amen
In-The-Middle
That Amen was in response to Brad, by the way. Well put.
Mike
Who cares she sucked as an actress anyways!! Her acting skills is horrible and I’ve been saying that for years. She is the same character in every role the same monotone bad ass LOL it’s basically the same character she played in Deadpool but minus the super powers LOL
Ryan
She violated her contract after being warned to stop violating her contract, it’s not cancel culture, it’s Gina being an idiot.
Mike West
If your career is affected by the actions of your public opinions you should use care and caution on what opinions you voice. Sex, religion and politics are hot points and IMO should be avoided.
Take a lesson from Dolly Parton.
That being said, Carano’s social media comments weren’t any more inflammatory than others from Lucas Film i.e. Pedro Pascal, however Carano’s viewpoints are Conservative which is why she was fired – under the excuse that her posts were inflammatory.
Everyone should see that, even Liberals. You know this.
Susan
What happened to each person voicing their opinion?? Last one checked, didn’t the constitution give us the right to free speech? Don’t we have the right to our own opinion? Where did the road turn to my opinion is the only one that matters?
Brad Smith
Hear we go again…. Free speech means the government can’t restrict your speech. Disney is a private corporation and can hold employees accountable for saying things the company disagrees with. Carano’s speech wasn’t infringed, she was held accountable for saying crappy things and being a bit of a jerk about it by digging in her heels. She can say whatever she wants, but that doesn’t mean there are no consequences for what she says
In-The-Middle
Brad, exactly. Well put.
In-The-Middle
Susan, no one stopped her right to free speech. She can say whatever she wants. And her employer who had her sign NDAs, Moral Clauses and Ethics Policies has the right to fire her for breaking her contract with THEM. She still has the right to Free Speech. She has not been censored or even edited. Why aren’t people understanding this?
Someone's Dad
Imagine being upset for Pedro comparing concentration camps to concentration camps! The horror!
Oh dear snowflake conservatives, before you say “it was under obama!” That is correct. Trump added steroids to it and made it much worse (which is documented).
Gina Carano thought being disagreed with because of political opinion means she is being hunted and put into camps.
CC
They want conservatives re-educated. And deprogrammed. That doesn’t ring a bell? I would protect your leftist beliefs as well if they tried to silence you.
In-The-Middle
Someone’s Dad, exactly!
Chuck
Pedro should be fired because he did the same exact thing or Gina rehired. If we are going to make a standard, it should apply to everyone equally. In this case, it could be seen as validation for Ginas point, which is counterproductive to the reason why she was fired.
Edwin Medina
I think actors who take their work seriously need to do just that. If they want a platform to stoke controversy, then go into politics & earn your following for just that. Nobody who watches Star Wars, wants to hear politics. She knew what she was doing & instead of just doing her job, she chose otherwise. She earn her following for the show & obviously had other intentions of her work. She stated lies & things that many viewed disgusting. I don’t feel bad, she had a dream job with many percs that would of put her in Star Wars legacy. She obviously didn’t care about her fans that much. She will be forgotten & irrelevant now that she doesn’t have a huge platform to abuse.
Splinter6
Do better than defining women by their relationship to men- mentioning her father in the introduction implies her notoriety is because of him, and diminishes her responsibility for her successes and failures. She earned and lost work because of her actions, let her own it.
Jim
And with all the Buffy and Angel controversy and it didn’t start there Ray Fischer had problems on the X-men set! Curious to know what Disney’s views are on Wheldon?
Ava Newton
Glad a chose to avoid Disney + !
Ken
Two heards of mindless sheep trained to hate by politicians as pawns in a game of power.
If you support her losing her job you support Kaepernic losing his. Same reasons, embarrassed employer.
If you justify your evil by saying someone else’s did it two you are evil. The rest is just lies and excuses for being bad humans.
Thrawn
She shouldn’t have been fired. Plain and simple. We don’t fire people over political beliefs otherwise Pedro should have been dumped too. But because no one gets outraged when it comes to conservatives or Trump it’s fine. Different standards for different folks. I’ll be following her next project as well as the Mando. Just baffling we get a strong female character and then cancel it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In-The-Middle
Thrawn, with all due respect, who is “we?” The Production Company fired her for breaking her contract, not “we.” Now if you want to debate cancel culture and if fan sentiment played into the Production Company’s decision, we can argue that until our fingers fall off. But until that company says that fan sentiment instigated their decision, “we” didn’t have any effect. What their statement said was that the company felt her words and actions were offensive enough to break her Moral Clause and Ethics Policy, in a decision made by them, not “we.” They warned her and she chose to continue, knowing full well the consequences. “We” had nothing to do with it.
Kenneth
Comments on this thread further prove to me what I know is true: no movement or political group today is about equality or ending hate. They’re only about changing the balance of power and changing who we’re allowed to hate.
Chris P
No, that’s a false equivalence. Standing up for facts, science, and inclusion is not hate.
In-The-Middle
Kenneth, with all due respect, “changing who we are allowed to hate,” really? What does that even mean? Why would we be so focused upon who we are “allowed” to hate? When love is the answer, why are some so stuck on our grip with hate? Has modern Disney taught us nothing?
Some want to decide who others can love and marry. Others are fighting for inclusivity and equality across the board in regards to marriage, pay, healthcare opportunity, schooling, infrastructure, etc. That’s love, not hate. Now if you want to call that socialism, we can debate that. But “changing who we are allowed to hate,” I don’t understand that rationale at all.
John
“Cancel Culture”….. Aka consequences for your actions…. Personal responsibility… Etc.
In-The-Middle
Disneymom, they do have rules about that. Hence, her firing due to breaking their contract. All their employees sign NDAs, Ethics Policies and Moral Clauses. That’s what this is all about. Disney wants their company to be portrayed in a particular light and has their employees sign off on a particular code of conduct. She has the right to say whatever she wants, just not as their employee under their contract.
Clear Thoughts
Fvck Disney, canceled that’s BS, as quickly as I stopped watching Lethal Weapon, when they fired “the lethal weapon”, aka Clayne Crawford.
Devin
So you got mad at a show for firing a horrible person, that wouldn’t get along with his co-workers?
Glenn Blankenship
Thank you Rebecca Barton for an excellently written article, with unbiased facts!
Frank Anastasio
Why would you want to get a person fired for having their own opinion? Why is it if peoples opinions aren’t the same as yours they should shut up. It’s a Stupid way to live and really just moronic. Fire someone for an opinion… WOW.
#fireidiots!!!
Devin
I don’t agree with the harassment that she got, that was immensely uncalled for, but I can see why Disney wouldn’t want a person, who has made fun of trans people, mask wearing, and posting an image that compares either political party as being anywhere similar to being treated as the Jews were around WWII. Especially after they had warned her about it.
Paul
Freedom of speech, better watch what you say. (Ice-T album). Gina is a strong woman and should be able to speak her mind. If don’t like what she says, that’s her opinion and all those snowflakes should understand that not all people are sheep some have a mind of their own and have the right to say what they want. I hope that Disney grows a pair of BALLS and PUT GINA BACK ON MANDALORIAN and to hell with crybabies on what she has to say. If Gina is not back then I hope the directors and actors and actresses stay up for her and shut down Mandalorian.
In-The-Middle
Paul, that Ice-T album was censored by the PMRC, yes Tipper Gore. Gina was not censored. She gets to say whatever she wants. Companies have the ability to set standards of conduct for their employees. The comparison of that album is apples and oranges. Govt restrictions vs corporation restrictions. Not that I agree with either.
beepboopbop
You keep making this argument… and also keep IGNORING the fact that Pedro made the same politically charged posts and he wasn’t punished. Disney didn’t fire her for “breaching contract”… they fired her for being a conservative AND YOU KNOW THIS so stop lying.
Ed
Misogyny is acceptable if it is against conservative women. Also, kinda ironic that a series based on fighting for freedom and rebellion fires a person for exercising their freedom when not on company time (Colin Kaepernick).
Nate
All liberals do is destroy everything great! You snowflakes can’t handle free speech and have to cancel everything you disagree with! If you don’t like something do what conservatives do just stop watching what you disagree with and stop trying to cancel and destroy people lives just because your feeling got hurt its pathetic!
In-The-Middle
Nate, with all due respect, the Libs didn’t cancel anything.
In-The-Middle
Heath, well put!
Phil
All of this happened because manbabies and womanbabies are too immature and ignorant to understand a metaphor.
Listen, 60iq sjw ; one day, they are going to come for you and then nobody will defend you because you approved every censorship corporations did.
By the way, thoses that say “it’s a corporation, they have all the rights to censorship.” are the worst. Corporations are starting to have very big monopoly and are starting to have so much power that i would not be surprised if they started their own army. Most contracts corporations do are unacceptable and people sign it because they have no choice except leave or accept.
In-The-Middle
Phil, I’m confused, we are “the worst” for stating the facts about companies and corporations, but you then further agree that corporations have that power and those contracts? Are you factoring yourself into the “they” in “they are worst?” You are stating our exact point. Free Speech is not corporate. However, I do agree with you that corporations have too much power. But that doesn’t give employees a free pass. They still sign. It is their choice.
In-The-Middle
Ed, I actually agree with you that it is a bit ironic. However, within the company’s discretion. It’s not a government agency.
With companies like the UFC, employees are even contracted to wear certain gear (Reebok) and to not participate in certain activities that may endanger the employee. Donald Cerrone is a perfect example. They do not have a policy for speech and can say whatever whenever. It is up to the individual company.
The WWE has NDAs and codes of conduct policies and also limit what can be said in social media, to the tune of taking over an employee’s social media account. They can take a percentage of their social media income as well. Its contracted that way.
Colin Kaepernick is a great example of a man standing up against police brutality (clearly not all police are guilty of this) and standing up for equality by kneeling, knowing full well if he CONTINUED to take a knee he may be fired. And he continued to do so in protest, just like Gina.
Chet Kwiat
Why is it that actors can present views that many perceive as very liberal with no consequences yet if they have views that are conservative they get punished? You don’t need to tell me, it is because the media, including movies and television are very liberal and stick together. Sad to me!?
Jeff D
Social media posts should almost and outcry for or against them should almost never be the cause of any action to hire or fire someone.
We might as well just submit to mob rule in all things of this becomes the way
Mateo Makurasuki
Wow. Most of y’all are stupid AF. Cancel culture is practiced on both sides. It’s in everyone’s faces now because the media is mainly left and terrified of the woke left (smh). The right isn’t as effective at cancel culture because it’s based on hate or fear or ignorance and the left is effective because although based on ignorance and hate, it is couched in “I’m a good person and this is what the left says a good person does now”.
Carano’s mistake was comparing conservatives to the Jews who died in the Holocaust. Pascal compared trump supporters to those killing the Jews. There is a difference but it shouldn’t have led to carano being fired. It wasn’t anti Semitic but it was an ignorant stretch of the imagination.
And lol to those conservatives here who think that the right didn’t try to cancel Colin Kaepernick and the NFL. They def canceled Kaepeenick because teams were deathly afraid to sign him because of the right-wing backlash that would’ve come.
Dan
No they’re not, just shut up for the love of Christ ? drama drama drama just let em be for crying out loud
Kathy B
Let me boil it down for you.
1. Both actors likely have a whole page included in their contracts about social media, as ALL big companies require now.
2. Pedro was told by Disney to knock it off and he did.
3. Gina was told by Disney to knock it off and she didn’t.
4. Favreau went to bat for her and this was how she showed her appreciation.
5. No doubt she was also warned by her agency, which is why they dropped her because that’s a fat commission check they’re not getting anymore.
She’s not special and she’s not a victim. And she’s too damned old to act like a stubborn, spoiled brat.
Anyway, it’s not like the show is losing a GOOD actress. She was the weakest link in that cast. Even the puppet had more range.
Rhonda J
Whether what she said was right or wrong shouldn’t matter. We’re supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Why shouldn’t she be able to express her opinion? You don’t have to like it. You have the option to ignore it. Even better, it could actually open up an intelligent conversation that others can learn from. We need to stop “cancelling” people because they have a different opinion. It’s no different than the censorship other generations have fought against. Remember countless generations of Americans died to protect these freedoms. Its time to stop this insanity before we destroy democracy.
Daddy Piranha
I think the people telling lies about the election and storming the Capitol to overthrow the government did a pretty good job of trying to destroy democracy. Gina got fired because Disney did the math and decided there are more people against her that would stop spending money than there are people that would stop spending money if she stayed. It just means the people upset with the firing are in the minority. Just free market economy at work.
beepboopbop
Which lies are those? The ones about the 2016 election not being legit, or that Trump was “colluding” with Russia and a pawn of Putin? Those lies were spouted for 3 years straight and you didn’t care. As for the storming of the Capitol – that side has 300 million guns, and they all forgot to bring them, while wearing capes and viking horns and minding the purple rope barriers. So scary! You do know the Capitol was bombed twice before? Once by Clinton’s friend whom he pardoned, and once again by Obama’s political mentor. Again – you didn’t care because its all just team sports.
Very Amused
*grabs popcorn*
Porky
Would be cool if Favreau found his nutsack and put a stop to this garbage. Don’t really care about American politics, being that I’m not American and don’t consume as much CNN as my fellow commenters here; I just want Mandalorian to be a good show.
Joshua Blankinship
Kathleen Kennedy is a garbage human being. The best thing she could do is “fade in” to a new job washing dishes and knitting sweaters. She doesn’t belong at Lucas Films she belongs in the unemployment line.
F0ffDunce
Troll and miserably fail harder you pathetic geek twatwaffle
This Lady
I came for disney magic and what I ended up having was a strong desire for popcorn. I must get away and can’t stop staring. The crazy is leaking out of twitter and staining my favorite happy place. Wtf trolls?!? This part of the internet doesnt want you!
Kate Morton
I came for disney magic and what I ended up having was a strong desire for popcorn. I must get away and can’t stop staring. The crazy is leaking out of twitter and staining my favorite happy place. Wtf trolls?!? This part of the internet doesnt want you!
Rob
Honestly who cares?! The insurrectionist right like to bad mouth HOLLYWEIRD but take up for Carano like she’s some kind of war hero for blabbing her mouth. They think Disney gives a poop what they do? Disney has grown more and more inclusive despite the soccer moms threatening to cancel their 400 dollar super saver coupon vacation packages! Fools!
Cameryn
movies. Favreau told CNBC (huh?) that Scorsese and Coppola “are my heroes, and they have earned the right to express their opinions. I wouldn’t be doing what I’m doing if they didn’t carve the way. They served as a source of inspiration, you can go all the way back to
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