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The horrible ethnic stereotypes of Jose’ and his three parrot friends at the Tiki Room seem offensively dated today, and need to be updated: As long as Disney is on its PC-appeasement kick, I propose that this attraction also be revised, possibly as “Enchanted Tiki Room: Under New…Ownership”.
What is offensive about Jose?! Would you prefer ALL world cultures be removed? Have you never heard the accent from that part of the world? The French aren’t complaining.
Leota I’m with you! This is waaaaaaaay Out of hand. Too many cooks in the stew. I love all Disney but as it was/is Change enough and it won’t be Disneyland or DW anymore.
I’m wondering if this whole “Inside the magic” is a hoax? Getting people all stirred up. Just look at some of the titles to the articles. Some of the writers add fuel to the fire.
“change enough and it won’t be Disneyland or DW anymore”
Walt never wanted it to just stay the same.
I think the technique that EricJ is using is called ‘sarcasm’. It’s used like this: Of course we should bring back the “Under New Management” refurbishment. Everybody in the whole world just loved that redo. There wasn’t a single complaint when it was changed.
One person got the joke, L&G. ONE person. (Although it could be that there simply isn’t a generation of fans anymore who even remember the unremitting horrors of Under New Management? Not sure if that’s a good thing or not, but those who don’t remember the past…)
I agree with you Leota. I am actually Latina/French and there is nothing offensive about the Enchanted Tiki room. People are loosing rationality during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Not black, but that is really offensive. Clean it up, this is a family website.
Do you really think these natives never really existed? Get a grip folks and just have fun with it all. Pessimists be gone. There are different races for a reason. Just love them all and stop trying to change things.
Get a grip snowflake
Not even Mickey will be safe from the mob!! He’ll be next to be altered!!
Right?! People are actively trying to be offended. Ugh! STAY HOME ALREADY!
That’s really rude. Beyond rude. Clean it up.
While I am fine with a better theme for Splash Mountain? The Ride itself needs to change location (ie the story takes place in NOLA, so at Disneyland? Get rid of Critter Country and put Princess and the Frog in New Orleans Square!) and it doesn’t need a Cheapskate Chapek retheme! It needs to be done right at every Disney Theme Park! (ie put the Ride in Fantasyland everywhere else!)
As for the Jungle Cruise? I’ll come back with a l-o-o-o-o-n-g reply! (FYI that Ride has gone thru minor changes, mostly to eliminate what isn’t appropriate now!)
The people who are offended are the minority. Most people who go to Disney are not thinking this attraction is racist and I am offended. If they do find another vacation spot…period!
I support this. “Savages” is not okay nor problematic visual depictions.
If you are not a savage or white trash…then I imagine the answer is no.
These people crying out for change are doing it for all the wrong reasons. Yes, Splash Mountain needed to be changed, but not because it was “racist”. There wasn’t a single racist element in SM. It needed to be changed because it’s dated and doesn’t fit with any theme of Disney. The same goes for Jungle Cruise. It would be the perfect opportunity to incorporate Jungle Book into the Disney parks, but they’ll probably just make it a cheap imitation of the movie they’re in the process of making
If you go to Disney World/Disneyland and you are offended by an attraction, a ride, a show…then you need more than a vacation. Get a grip people. I am so over a of this. This is what is wrong with society. Everyone is far too sensitive. Bunch of sissy lala’s. Oh wait did I offend someone?
I’m going to just make a guess.
You have power in society.
I love your line in the article that said the “bulk were in favor” of Splash Mountain being changed. You have nothing definitive to make that statement….
Most of the comments on the boards say leave it alone
Do a search on Change.org’s website for “Splash Mountain”. Currently, there are 11 pages of petitions. The majority are to keep the ride as is. The petition this article and every other one online states over 21000 people have signed to change the theme. That petition is closed but the top “save Splash Mountain” petition has over 51000 signatures and there are a few others with 2000 to 3000 signatures. Hardly supports the “bulk were in favor” line. Change it or don’t change it, I don’t really care. Just please, if you are writing articles and presenting “facts” do some basic research first.
And twelve pages for Disney to release the Uncut Original Star Wars Trilogy that George Lucas was clearly “hiding”, and twenty pages demanding the Zack Snyder Justice League cut. Twenty years ago, what we call Change.org was called “PetitionOnline.com”, and if you see some older folks snickering right now at hearing the name again…
Man EricJ, your comments can be hard to figure out. What is your point exactly? If you are trying to tell me that change.org is a waste of time, I completely agree.
My only point, and maybe I was the one not clear enough, is that if a “reporter” is going to cite one petition (as invalid as it may be) they should have also noticed the opposing view’s petition (also possibly invalid) that has twice as many signatures and therefore should refrain from using phrases like, “bulk were in favor”. That’s all.
Every time there’s an angry petition for anything, the Internet-illiterate press makes a big deal of “A petition just appeared on CHANGE.ORG!!”, and doesn’t know why every other real Internet fan laughs at the site as a sad raging-fanboy joke. I’m glad real park fans now care enough to petition NOT to change Splash Mountain, but the slang terms that Internet fans jokingly call PetitionOnline and Change.org are not fit for a Disney board.
Can we stop trying to change everything people enjoy. Jungle Cruise is fine the way it is what next Winnie the Pooh .
This is not the first time Disney made changes to attractions regarding problematic themes. Lest we not forget the bellyaching from just two years ago when the problematic auction scene was changed in POTC. Even Port Orleans was renamed due to its racists connections. This change is not only the right thing to do, but is also long overdue. Please check your privilege at the door and reflect on these quotes by Walt Disney himself – “We can ill afford to rest on our laurels, even to pause in retrospect. Times and conditions change so rapidly that we must keep our aim constantly focused on the future.” & “Disneyland will never be completed. It will continue to grow as long as there is imagination left in the world.”
Can we stop using the got to quote of:“Disneyland will never be completed. It will continue to grow as long as there is imagination left in the world.” for EVERY single choice these days to justify that it is the right choice?
Not every update is the right thing. And as it was stated earlier…if you are that mad on vacation…you have bigger problems than a few props on kid rides.
I think Walt would have officially taken it back if he’d seen the Goosebumps overlay at 90’s Disney Studios… I’m pretty sure Walt made his statement as commercial press, lest fans complain “That was IT??” after that disastrous first-day opening.
What do you want to bet all of these naysayers who want to stay in the past, they’re all white. Well I am white and I am a woman. Women have been more persecuted than any race creed or what have you, because women make up about half of all the people persecuted. So as a woman I am very sensitively aware of the persecution and suppression of the white man, who Always wants to be king of the mountain and has never learned to use his words. This earth does not belong to the white man! it belongs to every person, and every life form. We don’t have to worry about the earth breaking, it is man who is going to extinguish himself with his horrid practices. This is awakening for the entire nation and for the world. Hello!
How much you want to bet all these people who want change and don’t appreciate classic anything are millennials?
Kathleen, Oh heavens please stop with this! I’m a woman too. I’m the same color as you say you are. Why even mention it. Who cares ha ha. Get over your anger. I don’t want to change Disneyland. Pretty soon we won’t recognize it and no one will go because all the charm will have been bred right out of it. Let’s go have fun at Disneyland or DW
I think the that EricJ is being sarcastic. At least I hope it was sarcasm. Sometimes it’s hard to tell. : )
So that’s where my comment ended up. Sorry, didn’t mean for it to show up here. Man I dislike this discussion board software.
Please…stop…you are sounding like…”My persecution is better than yours!”
Life is short and fragile…please enjoy it and drop the victim routine.
The world is yours….
Okay. I am a minority, but things are getting out of hand. People should stop picking on objects that are not directly and obviously offensive, like cute innocent critters from Splash Mountain, and pick on the real problematic root, how police are educated and trained. If people want to truly erase all racists roots, then should all non-minorities get wiped out of U.S.A. because they have racist roots? We have to be real. We need to appreciate and respect the positive things in the world otherwise we all are going to miserable. Disneyland brings so many people enjoy. So many positive memories. It offers escapism. A trip to the past. If the vintage classics are changed, then allure is gone. If people can’t understand to respect history, what Disney intended to offer, just pure joy, then don’t go to Disneyland. California Adventure Park should be the place to constantly change and Disneyland should be preserved for historical reasons and to provide true escapism.
How about if you don’t like changes or want to stay in the past you don’t go.
Disneyland is all about the past!! Puhleeze.
Some stuff is corny but it’s cute corny like that. If you hd your way would you change everything??? If so, it’s not going to be Disneyland anymore. Don’t tell people to stay away if they don’t like it! Would you like it if someone said to you if you don’t like Disney as it is then why don’t you please stay home. I’m for leaving it the way it’s been. I believe Walt Disney meant that there will always be more to add not change every single ride that some feel now offends. I’ll take Disneyland as it is. Too much change people won’t even go.
We are so focused at the moment on Splash Mountain, which contains no reference to Uncle Remus. If justification is found to remove Song of the South, then we must also examine The Jungle Cruise (headhunter’s village) , Tom Sawyer Island (Mark Twain’s stories all intertwine and include references to the Antebellum South, slavery, and Jim), Dumbo the Flying Elephant (Jim Crow & taunting crows), and numerous other attractions.
Disney just needs to take a proactive approach and do away with all theming; just make an amusement park with rides, no theme. That way, the issue of offending someone’s race, ethnicity, religion, citizenship, gender identity, sexual orientation, age, and/or disability goes away all together. (insert sarcastic face here)
I don’t think this means what this article implies. I think what Dwayne is saying is that imagineers will help the movie set redesign the attraction that is in all parks for the movie. Rumor crushed.
Dwayne is never subtle about plugging his movies, and yes, it does sound as if HE was saying they’re hoping to do a Pirates of the Caribbean on Jungle Cruise…If we like it. There’s the usual fanboy buzz of getting rid of the “savages”, but consider the two items separate and unrelated–Although if Cruise does get a movie makeover, we know which ride scenes are the first to go.
(And there’s still the chicken-and-egg theory of whether Disney put Dwayne in their JC before Sony put Dwayne in their “Jumanji”, or vice versa…)
I think I’m going to unsubscribe to all Disney related news letters. My stress level is just through the roof. First the news of the Splash Mtn re-theme. Now they are talking about changing the Jungle Cruise and Peter Pan. What’s next the People mover? Because heaven forbid we offend anything that’s not a person. Let’s just change it to the “Mover”. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ Or the Haunted Mansion. You know. Cause dead people might find it offensive. And what about Space Mtn? Is it offensive to people from countries that don’t have space travel? And 7 Dwarfs Mine Train. I mean… hello… Germans. Some of the most oppressive and racist people of the early 20th century. And how about the Tiki Room? Jeeze how have the SJW not taken this one apart?
Can we just stop for a minute and appreciate the rides and attractions for what they are and stop picking apart EVERY aspect that may “trigger.” It’s just a freakin’ theme park attraction people!
Let’s make one thing perfectly clear. It is not the Disney fans that are upset about any of these rides theming. It’s the fly-by-night offended police basement dwellers that are getting people all in an uproar. A very minor segment of the population.
It’s been 50 years. And NOW it’s offensive. I’m done. I’m just freakin done.
Just like with TV and Movies. If you don’t like it or are offended by it, THEN DON’T GO!
If this post is offensive, either get thicker skin or feel free to delete it. 😡🤷🏼♂️
Whats hilarious about your post is 1) people mover was removed from DL, 2) Haunted Mansion doesn’t exist in some of the other parks given the reference of ghosts for religious/cultural reasons.
So honestly, your argument has no merit. Maybe try better examples than ones that support change.
Oh, wonderful, Diz gets to ruin yet ANOTHER beloved attraction!!!
“…fans had mixed reactions, with the bulk in favor.” The bulk in favor?? I think the petitions showing more signatures for “leave Splash Mountian alone” are proof to the contrary, no matter how many news sites try to brush that fact under the rug.
I agree with the sissy lala comment. That’s all this world is made of as of lately. I am disappointed in Disney for caving and changing great rides that are not even offensive. This is beyond ridiculous. If fans want a princess and the frog ride fine build it separately… Didn’t didn’t just by 25 more acres in Florida during this pandemic? Why not just make a PC park for all the whiners and leave the original rides alone.
But what attractions could Disney even put in their new PC park that wouldn’t offend someone? I honestly can’t think of anything.
A wrinkle in time attraction would fit in the PC park..
Hell…it can be their official hosts.
OMG people are actively LOOKING for things to be upset about. If the entirety of society and the depictions of other cultures in CLASSIC senses offends you, stay away! I mean really?! There are / were headhunting tribes. The hokey pokey joke on the jungle cruise is not offensive – IT’S A JOKE! And the Indian in Peter Pan is part of the story. What is offensive about him – when this took place, we didn’t really understand their language, but they didn’t do anything mean! What the f is wrong with everyone?! Do you not want anyone represented at all ever? Why don’t we just tear down friggin everything in that case because someone somewhere is going to decide it’s offensive. Lighten up and get over it, find your sense of humor and just let it go already!
Just a note- the characters in Peter Pan are not Native Americans. Since they’re from Neverland and not the Americas. I’m not sure what the correct term would be, but that’s not it.
True, they’re in Neverland but they’re definitely racist depictions First Nations tribes.
Would you go as far to say the crows in Dumbo are not racist depictions of Black people, because crows aren’t people? Because they are 100% extremely racist caricatures of Black people.
There were black actors speaking as crows and not putting on an accent….what’s wrong with that?
If your brain goes straight to PREJUDICED caricatures when you view something then that is your problem and something you need to exam about yourself.
And by the way…the correct term in this context is prejudiced not racist.
Stop using the word racist all the time. Look up its definition.
The crows are also helpful, friendly to our characters, and rather hip, nice guys. Even for their 1940 resemblance to “Amos & Andy” radio characters (with the derby-wearing leader a dead ringer for Andy), are the crows MORE “damaging and intentionally racist” than, say, Whoopi Goldberg and Cheech Marin as “Hyena gangstas” in Lion King?
And the “Red Indians” in Peter Pan are not real–any more than Hook is a real 18th-cty. European pirate–but denizens of a world created out of children’s imagination, especially if they’re little British kids who read too many “Last of the Mohicans” tropes.
You are making too much sense. 😉
Well said, Lorenzo!
Okay. I am a minority, but things are getting out of hand. People should stop picking on objects that are not directly and obviously offensive, like cute innocent critters from Splash Mountain, and pick on the real problematic root, how police are educated and trained. If people want to truly erase all racists roots, then should all non-minorities get wiped out of U.S.A. because they have racist roots? We have to be real. We need to appreciate and respect the positive things in the world otherwise we all are going to miserable. Disneyland brings so many people enjoy. So many positive memories. It offers escapism. A trip to the past. If the vintage classics are changed, then the allure is gone. If people can’t understand to respect history, what Disney intended to offer, just pure joy, then don’t go to Disneyland. California Adventure Park should be the place to constantly change and Disneyland should be preserved for historical reasons and true escapism.
I would only expect some sort of change to Jungle Cruise is the movie is a success, in the same way that Jack Sparrow was shoehorned into almost every scene in Pirates of the Caribbean following how successful the first three films were. I am fully supportive of people speaking out against oppression and prejudice and inequality, I’m a gay man who regularly faces hate based on who I love, and sometimes a touch up doesn’t hurt to keep things fresh, but no matter what happens not everyone will be satisfied and Disney are damned if they do and damned if they don’t with this I reckon.
Your priority should start with getting your facts straight – as those quotes are not from the group you mention.
LZ, not gonna argue with ignorance. LOOK IT UP. THERE IS VIDEO.
LZ, Not going to argue about a FACT. THERE Is Video. LOOK IT UP.
YES! EXACTLY! Frankly if you can’t go into a public space/place without your “rainbow” Crap everywhere and feel welcomed or have clean fun the problem is with You! Everyone Stop, just stop catering to the loudest or most violent.
Scott, YES! EXACTLY! AND the Hotels! Bedbugs and lice are the least of your problems at the “resorts”! If A Human being can not have fun or feel welcomed in a public place because there are not surrounded with rainbow crap merch., the problem is with them!
KT July 1,2020 Hello World Well, I can’t believe all the comments being Made!!Just listen to yourselves , so sad 😞 I don’t think it was right the George Floyd’s life was ended with such violence, or any people for this matter! I remember the 1st time I visited Disneyland in CA., my grandma( whom by the way just turned 99 ) took me there , I was 6 years old, the best day of my life, that I will treasure for ever that special day ,now I’m 48 , I have been 5 times, every time I have visited , I try to go or see the next attraction , that I missed going to the last time. The Jungle Cruise for the first time , and I was so excited , for my next Walt Disney Adventure.,That was Oct. 2012, yeah Gay Day people !! And I’m not Gay!! I’m married and have 4 Grown children and only one of them has visited the Best Place on Earth! My whole life I wanted to take them there but could never afford it, but I know the happiness it brings me when I walk through the gate, a place of magic , for ever one , no matter if your 2 or 59, a different religion, any color skin, short or tall or handicap. Nothing should be changed , these are people’s memories , Walt Disney made this Park for ever one, this was his only intention, to forget about the past , and Dream of New Beginnings. Mr. Disney & his brother Roy wanted this for US. Please know from my Heart ❤️, that I’m so sorry that racism has been in our world to long, and if MR. Disney from heaven above could makeTinker Bell sprinkle some ferry dust and take all the pain away that our world has caused I know he would do it , in a flash, so please stop fighting and love one another , help one another , that’s the best we can do to make change. Mr. Disney has lots of quotes , look them up on the internet, and you will see that We Are A Small World After All, that ride is all of us , which by the way is so Beautiful, it’s all of us. Here’s my Favorite Quote
Laughter is timeless, Imagination has no age, dreams are forever’ Walt Disney Thank You 🙏 For Reading
As an atheist, I’m offended. Heaven isn’t real.
July 2,2020 Get a life, and please delete yourself from Disney emails because , You are why we have hate in the world 🌎 Your the reason why this Black Lives Matter is Due is happening!! You read people’s comments just to tear down and nit pick there comments, Your just jealous of my Goodness lol
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