I’m no huge fan of the Avatar project, but get off the “it’s political” stuff. It’s a tried and true movie trope. It’s hardly original. Native peoples have a resource someone else wants, and another source wants to come in and pillage it. If you actually paid attention to the movie, it was NOT a government force, it was a private company employing mercenaries.
Sounds like you don’t love Disney World that much. Regardless of the source material, this land looks like it’s going to bring something great to the table in the world of theme parks. Harry Potter seems to have lit a fire under Disney, and I’m excited to see what they bring to the table, regardless of property.
I’m not really a fan of Cars, but Cars Land was incredible.
Lighting a fire in regards to the final product. I question whether we’d seen things like Avatar or Cars Land without Universal creating the first round of Harry Potter.
The speed on Disney’s side is definitely lacking though. It’s nuts that the Diagon Alley and Avatar projects were announced at the same time, and we’re still 3+ years out from Avatar.
hhmmmmmm…..I love (and will pretty much always love) Disney, but I don’t care what the imagineers do or say or try and shove James Cameron’s ideas and products down my throat…it will NEVER happen!! send the blue people up the street to Universal (why not, Disney now owns that and its more appropriate than Animal Kingdom…I honestly think) shoot….. its even more fitting going to Sea World (and I understand Disney is looking into buying THAT place as well) btw (maybe its just me) but I think its going to really suck to be standing in the middle of a 1980’s era Chicago movie set watching The Blues Brothers Show and taking pictures with Mickey and Minnie Mouse…. no magic or pixie dust there AND vice versa, I really see no “when you wish upon a star” watching Captain America standing in front of Space Mountain signing autographs (I dunno, maybe its just me) bottomline,imo, leave the franchises separate and just expand appropriately(ie….seven dwarfs mine train, little mermaid, dumbo….. and shoulda been CARSLAND…or even STAR WARS LAND, being as Disney just bought George Lucas)but here again, after 308 times going to Disney World, it might be that I just need a break from the mouse AND all his enterprise
I may Have read this wrong but Disney doesn’t own Universal.. and does not want to buy sea world. if you have really been to disney 308 times you would know these things
well lets see…… I would have to go back and flip through my reports from NBC and such ….but I’m sure its common knowledge that Disney has long bought the Marvel rights.. but if you check several Disney websites and sources, the Disney company is in the first stages of bidding for SeaWorld as well as Busch Gardens in Florida.. we employees and stockholders here in Virginia that worked for the Anheuser-Busch company (which owned SeaWorld AND Busch Gardens and sold off)….. the Belgian company that bought this empire wants to now unload the theme parks and just focus on the brewing….just check around, I think you’ll find out that I don’t jest….have a good one !!!
Furthermore, Sea World and Busch Gardens were spun off into their own company on NYSE with a controlling interest by the British company Blackstone. What year are you living in?
I think everybody should give it a chance before trashing the idea because like they keep saying there not making a land based on the movie but of pandora… I origanlly didn’t like the idea but I think this is gonna give animal kingdom a great night life experence that everybody has been waiting for and the more I get to hear about it from the imageneers the more I get excited for it… And honestly anything can be better than camp Minnie Mickey I mean really people… And also I’m tired of people saying can we have Star Wars instead because honestly people Star Wars is for Hollywood studios not the animal kingdom
I agree that Stars Wars Land should be in Hollywood Studios…..in fact I was under the impression that Star Wars Land was coming to Hollywood Studios and that this past Christmas season was the last year for the Osborne Family of Lights so as to make room for the project, but I think that pretty much all park projects were axed when they decided to go through with that Downtown Disney “Springs” project….and you ARE RIGHT sir, ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN CAMP MINNIE MICKEY…..hahahaha
Hahaha and if Star Wars land does get build at Hollywood studios I don’t think they will put it where streets of America is because of the Osborne lights popularity and also because this part of the park is a classic and a favorite to most fans of the original park (before the sorcerer hat days) but I do think that lights motor action extreme stunt show and maybe the backlot tour will be in trouble when some type of Star Wars thing is build in Hollywood studios (if it is even build in Hollywood studios) and also I don’t think Hollywood studios has any room for any new land with out the closure of some rides so that will be interesting when this finally happens but for now let’s all just look forward to avatar land or pandora (or what ever other name they decide to name it)
well lets see…… I would have to go back and flip through my reports from NBC and such ….but I’m sure its common knowledge that Disney has long bought the Marvel rights.. but if you check several Disney websites and sources, the Disney company is in the first stages of bidding for SeaWorld as well as Busch Gardens in Florida.. we employees and stockholders here in Virginia that worked for the Anheuser-Busch company (which owned SeaWorld AND Busch Gardens and sold….. the Belgian company wants to now unload them and just focus on the brewing….just around, I think you’ll find out that I don’t jest….have a good one !!!
Owning Marvel and owning Universal are two very different things. Comcast owns Universal and NBC. Also, why would Disney be interested in buying a park in the middle of a huge controversy that is begging for the park to change its business model at the foundation? I would ask where such madness stemmed from but seeing as you are employed by Anheuser-Bush I assume you are enjoying your company’s product a bit too much…
I’m looking forward to this animal kingdom is a beautiful park, I have not seen avatar and even though I have it on blue ray have no desire to watch it, but it did perform incredible at the box office on its original release and has a whole string of sequels and prequels ( not sure if latter is true.) in the works. when Rhode says the area will live up to what animal kingdom is about now sort of says they are aiming to surpass what they have achieved already. I’m looking forward to seeing how it will pan(dora) out.
So, you’re still using the Harry Potter comparison?–
Even from the beginning, I was using the Goosebumps and American Idol comparisons: “Er, heheh, we sort of envisioned it being popular a little….LONGER than it did?” 😉
Great attractions can outlive the properties that spawn them – anybody have a DVD of “Third Man On The Mountain” I can borrow? – but I agree with the point that Avatarland is a pretty clear response to the ass-kicking Uni Creative is giving to Imagineering right now. If you were a talented creative in the theme park industry where would you want to work right now? Building kiddie coasters and meet-n-greets or immersive lands with cutting-edge rides? Avatarland puts Imagineering back in the game with the latter.
Of course, right now my kids want to go where Harry Potter, Dr. Seuss, and Spider Man are, not so much Mickey Mouse, and Avatar probably won’t change that.
Going with where your kids want to go right now I believe that most kids will want to go to disney if they heard about a marvel land and a Star Wars land… But I think avatarland and or pandora will give the animal kingdom more for me and other that have been there many times to do other than Everest dinosaur and the safari
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Everyone here that is bashing the project, please read a little more carefully. I am yet to hear a single person say anything negative about “Pandora”, rather everyone is against “Avatar”. If you read the article, there is this lovely quote, “If you really think about it, to me, ‘Avatar’ is not coming here. Pandora is coming here.”
Sure there may be meet-and-greets with a few Navi, but even the rides are themed to the wildlife that were in Pandora, not the Navi or necessarily the story of Avatar. Also, if you don’t like it, don’t go. It’s located where Camp Minnie Mickey was, which is a pretty secluded area that easily avoidable.
Finally, the rest of the park is getting a much deserved facelift along with the new land, so that’s just another bonus!
Thank you!—This is completely true and I agree with you 100% and even though I don’t think this will be the best land disney will make but it’s still going to be good and I’m looking forward too it!
Okay, I’ll say something positive about Pandora:
“Oh, look, a glowing, verdant world, that’s transported me away to the heart of an alien landscape, here in the heart of Florida, that emphasizes man’s connection with his natural world, and endlessly reminds me of scenes from a corny crap movie every time I look at it!” 😉
I personally don’t care for Avatar, Pandora, whatever they want to call it. However a new land is always welcome. My beef is, it seems like the strength, draw of the land will be its use of light, lumanescance, which it would seem is best seen at night. Since when is AK open past 6 or 8pm other than events or holidays when there are heavy crowds. Most of the year the park closes before sundown therefore wasting a big part of the design of this land.
Uh, that’s the whole point of this. The Pandora area will allow the park to stay open longer. It will have a nightime show too. Lots of exciting things are coming.
I’m probably just going to repeat what other arguments are going on but I think that the Avatar expansion is a waste of time and money. I do like the movie and all but I honestly don’t think it should be made into a whole section of a very successful theme park. I think Disney could have done better. But of couse that is just my opinion as a Disney fanatic.
Comments for Avatar Land Explained, Imagineer And Film Producer Stress Connection To Animal Kingdom Values In Walt Disney World Event
Craig
Movie was political. Love Disney World, not interested in this expansion.
tim
spot on correct
Xtian
I’m no huge fan of the Avatar project, but get off the “it’s political” stuff. It’s a tried and true movie trope. It’s hardly original. Native peoples have a resource someone else wants, and another source wants to come in and pillage it. If you actually paid attention to the movie, it was NOT a government force, it was a private company employing mercenaries.
Mal
Sounds like you don’t love Disney World that much. Regardless of the source material, this land looks like it’s going to bring something great to the table in the world of theme parks. Harry Potter seems to have lit a fire under Disney, and I’m excited to see what they bring to the table, regardless of property.
I’m not really a fan of Cars, but Cars Land was incredible.
Tryg
Lighting a fire is not finally opening a new land 7 years after the first Harry Potter, and 3 years after an even bigger Harry Potter expansion.
Mal
Lighting a fire in regards to the final product. I question whether we’d seen things like Avatar or Cars Land without Universal creating the first round of Harry Potter.
The speed on Disney’s side is definitely lacking though. It’s nuts that the Diagon Alley and Avatar projects were announced at the same time, and we’re still 3+ years out from Avatar.
Marlowe
But you will still go. and everyone else not “interested”.
tim
hhmmmmmm…..I love (and will pretty much always love) Disney, but I don’t care what the imagineers do or say or try and shove James Cameron’s ideas and products down my throat…it will NEVER happen!! send the blue people up the street to Universal (why not, Disney now owns that and its more appropriate than Animal Kingdom…I honestly think) shoot….. its even more fitting going to Sea World (and I understand Disney is looking into buying THAT place as well) btw (maybe its just me) but I think its going to really suck to be standing in the middle of a 1980’s era Chicago movie set watching The Blues Brothers Show and taking pictures with Mickey and Minnie Mouse…. no magic or pixie dust there AND vice versa, I really see no “when you wish upon a star” watching Captain America standing in front of Space Mountain signing autographs (I dunno, maybe its just me) bottomline,imo, leave the franchises separate and just expand appropriately(ie….seven dwarfs mine train, little mermaid, dumbo….. and shoulda been CARSLAND…or even STAR WARS LAND, being as Disney just bought George Lucas)but here again, after 308 times going to Disney World, it might be that I just need a break from the mouse AND all his enterprise
Teddy Leo
I may Have read this wrong but Disney doesn’t own Universal.. and does not want to buy sea world. if you have really been to disney 308 times you would know these things
tim
good night Teddy Leo ……have a great evening
Bruce Wayne
This guy has no touch with Reality.
EricJ
I think a break IS what you need–
Either a nice long rest, or a time-out, either one would help.
Teddy Leo
I may Have read this wrong but Disney doesn’t own Universal.. and does not want to buy sea world.
Teddy Leo
replied to the wrong person sorry about that. But send his resume to Universal Creative please get out of here
tim
well lets see…… I would have to go back and flip through my reports from NBC and such ….but I’m sure its common knowledge that Disney has long bought the Marvel rights.. but if you check several Disney websites and sources, the Disney company is in the first stages of bidding for SeaWorld as well as Busch Gardens in Florida.. we employees and stockholders here in Virginia that worked for the Anheuser-Busch company (which owned SeaWorld AND Busch Gardens and sold off)….. the Belgian company that bought this empire wants to now unload the theme parks and just focus on the brewing….just check around, I think you’ll find out that I don’t jest….have a good one !!!
Xtian
Comcast owns NBCUniversal as well as the theme parks.
Disney owns Marvel.
NBCUniversal owns all Marvel theme park rights east of the Mississippi and in Japan.
And you make no sense.
These are all facts. Go away uninformed troll.
Xtian
Furthermore, Sea World and Busch Gardens were spun off into their own company on NYSE with a controlling interest by the British company Blackstone. What year are you living in?
How old are you exactly?
William
I think everybody should give it a chance before trashing the idea because like they keep saying there not making a land based on the movie but of pandora… I origanlly didn’t like the idea but I think this is gonna give animal kingdom a great night life experence that everybody has been waiting for and the more I get to hear about it from the imageneers the more I get excited for it… And honestly anything can be better than camp Minnie Mickey I mean really people… And also I’m tired of people saying can we have Star Wars instead because honestly people Star Wars is for Hollywood studios not the animal kingdom
tim
I agree that Stars Wars Land should be in Hollywood Studios…..in fact I was under the impression that Star Wars Land was coming to Hollywood Studios and that this past Christmas season was the last year for the Osborne Family of Lights so as to make room for the project, but I think that pretty much all park projects were axed when they decided to go through with that Downtown Disney “Springs” project….and you ARE RIGHT sir, ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN CAMP MINNIE MICKEY…..hahahaha
William
Hahaha and if Star Wars land does get build at Hollywood studios I don’t think they will put it where streets of America is because of the Osborne lights popularity and also because this part of the park is a classic and a favorite to most fans of the original park (before the sorcerer hat days) but I do think that lights motor action extreme stunt show and maybe the backlot tour will be in trouble when some type of Star Wars thing is build in Hollywood studios (if it is even build in Hollywood studios) and also I don’t think Hollywood studios has any room for any new land with out the closure of some rides so that will be interesting when this finally happens but for now let’s all just look forward to avatar land or pandora (or what ever other name they decide to name it)
tim
well lets see…… I would have to go back and flip through my reports from NBC and such ….but I’m sure its common knowledge that Disney has long bought the Marvel rights.. but if you check several Disney websites and sources, the Disney company is in the first stages of bidding for SeaWorld as well as Busch Gardens in Florida.. we employees and stockholders here in Virginia that worked for the Anheuser-Busch company (which owned SeaWorld AND Busch Gardens and sold….. the Belgian company wants to now unload them and just focus on the brewing….just around, I think you’ll find out that I don’t jest….have a good one !!!
stewart
Owning Marvel and owning Universal are two very different things. Comcast owns Universal and NBC. Also, why would Disney be interested in buying a park in the middle of a huge controversy that is begging for the park to change its business model at the foundation? I would ask where such madness stemmed from but seeing as you are employed by Anheuser-Bush I assume you are enjoying your company’s product a bit too much…
EricJ
So, how much MORE defensive about this are they going to get? 😉
Jamie C
I’m looking forward to this animal kingdom is a beautiful park, I have not seen avatar and even though I have it on blue ray have no desire to watch it, but it did perform incredible at the box office on its original release and has a whole string of sequels and prequels ( not sure if latter is true.) in the works. when Rhode says the area will live up to what animal kingdom is about now sort of says they are aiming to surpass what they have achieved already. I’m looking forward to seeing how it will pan(dora) out.
PS Ricky feel free to use that pun.
JEANY SANCHEZ
awesome! Avatar in Animal Kingdom is awesome and I can’t wait 2017!
EricJ
So, you’re still using the Harry Potter comparison?–
Even from the beginning, I was using the Goosebumps and American Idol comparisons: “Er, heheh, we sort of envisioned it being popular a little….LONGER than it did?” 😉
Tiny Imagineer
Great attractions can outlive the properties that spawn them – anybody have a DVD of “Third Man On The Mountain” I can borrow? – but I agree with the point that Avatarland is a pretty clear response to the ass-kicking Uni Creative is giving to Imagineering right now. If you were a talented creative in the theme park industry where would you want to work right now? Building kiddie coasters and meet-n-greets or immersive lands with cutting-edge rides? Avatarland puts Imagineering back in the game with the latter.
Of course, right now my kids want to go where Harry Potter, Dr. Seuss, and Spider Man are, not so much Mickey Mouse, and Avatar probably won’t change that.
William
Going with where your kids want to go right now I believe that most kids will want to go to disney if they heard about a marvel land and a Star Wars land… But I think avatarland and or pandora will give the animal kingdom more for me and other that have been there many times to do other than Everest dinosaur and the safari
theultimatedisneygeek
I agree with Tim all the way. Sorry but Disney and Avatar just don’t go together.
Dave
Why not? did you see how they re making it fit in DAK?
EricJ
….”MAKING it fit”? 😉
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Everyone here that is bashing the project, please read a little more carefully. I am yet to hear a single person say anything negative about “Pandora”, rather everyone is against “Avatar”. If you read the article, there is this lovely quote, “If you really think about it, to me, ‘Avatar’ is not coming here. Pandora is coming here.”
Sure there may be meet-and-greets with a few Navi, but even the rides are themed to the wildlife that were in Pandora, not the Navi or necessarily the story of Avatar. Also, if you don’t like it, don’t go. It’s located where Camp Minnie Mickey was, which is a pretty secluded area that easily avoidable.
Finally, the rest of the park is getting a much deserved facelift along with the new land, so that’s just another bonus!
William
Thank you!—This is completely true and I agree with you 100% and even though I don’t think this will be the best land disney will make but it’s still going to be good and I’m looking forward too it!
EricJ
Okay, I’ll say something positive about Pandora:
“Oh, look, a glowing, verdant world, that’s transported me away to the heart of an alien landscape, here in the heart of Florida, that emphasizes man’s connection with his natural world, and endlessly reminds me of scenes from a corny crap movie every time I look at it!” 😉
Jeff
I personally don’t care for Avatar, Pandora, whatever they want to call it. However a new land is always welcome. My beef is, it seems like the strength, draw of the land will be its use of light, lumanescance, which it would seem is best seen at night. Since when is AK open past 6 or 8pm other than events or holidays when there are heavy crowds. Most of the year the park closes before sundown therefore wasting a big part of the design of this land.
Jeff Lynch
Uh, that’s the whole point of this. The Pandora area will allow the park to stay open longer. It will have a nightime show too. Lots of exciting things are coming.
Caitlyn
I’m probably just going to repeat what other arguments are going on but I think that the Avatar expansion is a waste of time and money. I do like the movie and all but I honestly don’t think it should be made into a whole section of a very successful theme park. I think Disney could have done better. But of couse that is just my opinion as a Disney fanatic.
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