And THIS is supposed to be the “male appeal” they were looking for?
IMO, Disney really isn’t finding the right angles in making their parks more interesting or more competitive. All these changes to DCA and MK seem to be more about increasing park capacity by jamming as many people into a queue as they possibly can.
Well….. what do you want from them. Speaking for the new fantasyland it would seem that they are adding immersive areas, Amazing attractions, Great new restaurants, as well as staying competitive with universal. I mean look at the Belle area. Its pretty much a complete copy of Harry Potter land. Castle set on a mountain in the background, Surrounded by shops and restaurants which replicate a movie franchise. Plus they’re adding 2 new E ticket attractions plus new interactive queues, plus meet and greet areas, plus completely immersively themed areas. could they be any more obvious that they’re trying to match universal and one up them at the same time. And yes of course they are trying to increase capacity they are a business and they are probably not going to invest millions of dollars if they aren’t going to see a return.
perhaps we should wait and ride the rides and walk round these areas and actully expierience these things before we write these thins off as being horrible or praise them for being great. However as far as size goes both mermaid and snow will not be “little” rides they’re footprints are huge. I just hope they use some new technology in the rides as well as around the lands. that will really be the determining factor if these rides can compete with the competition or not.
I’d say a mine roller coaster and a circus aren’t necessarily for boys, but for EVERYONE. Why does everyone claim that Disney simply HAS to add an attraction specifically for boys? How do you even define that? That’s just being sexist. I am happy with what they are adding and even happier with what they are not: Pixie Hallow.
yea pixie hollow was just a bad idea from the start. I could see adding a little meet and greet like disneyland but not a whole big area. the franchise just obviously isnt that long standing. I dont know who decided to even contemplate that idea….. I actually am really excited for the fantasyland expansion now. Im a little disappointed the witch wont have a part in this. kinda sucks if they dont put her in.
I agree, but there are so many boy-centric concepts to be worked with. How about a Tron light-cycle attraction? Why not take the ride vehicle tech from Toy Story Mania and make a 3-D whizz through space with Wall-E with the idea being that you have a fire extinguisher and are floating in space? Hercules is about as boy centric as Disney gets, yet it is ignored in the parks. There’s plenty of imagination in the world for a Woody/cowboy themed attraction in Frontierland. With so many opportunities for boys, it’s a shame to see them relegated to Pirates and Princes Charming.
I’m a girl and I think a TRON ride would be BRILLIANT! When I heard that they were doing the elecTRONica I was so depressed to have missed it and I think with the new TRON: Legacy film opening this film back up to the younger generation should give it a space in Hollywood Studios so us TRON nerds have a space! Although I am looking forward to the new Beauty and the Beast area, if it is done well. As it was one of my favourite films as a child and I am fascinated to see what they would do for the West Wing. A Hercules area would be veeeery cool but I can’t think as to where they would put it, it could go in Animal Kingdom as some kind of Ancient Greek Ruin maybe…
i always wondered why disney has never influenced their incredible character line-up with park scenery. from the begining they should have added an attraction based on a character that has recently came out but no. theyve kept the same “traditonal” worn out rides from the past with characters this generation doesnt know of or a generic theme (such as animal kingdom where they could have used pride rock or something of that nature). i swear if disney ever woke up from his grave and saw that the park is vertually the same way he planned it after seeing the new technology used in other parks, he’d beat the hell out of the imagineers.
Caifornia Adventure is getting Carsland with 3 rides, plus Little Mermaid this summer and the awesome World of Color fountain show last summer, yet disneyworld is getting essentially meet n greets? What gives?
In my opinion, it is not the same as meet and greets but still disappointing. When you look at what Universal did, Disney doesn’t come close with these plans.
And, the latest reports claim that Universal’s not done yet. They are looking to expand the Wizarding World by… drum roll… 2013! If Disney is serious about competing with Harry Potter, they’re going to have to do better than this.
One of the rumored attractions for Harry Potter’s expansion is an indoor steel coaster. If that’s the case, Disney might want to scrap the carnival land and add somthing that would really wow people. Dumbo’s no E ticket and shouldn’t be what’s drawing people to the land. Take down one or both tents and put in an amazing ride! That would help against Potter… not Snow White.
if you read the reviews for harry potter during even remotely busy times, you’ll see most people say its wall to wall people, extreme wait times, the shops are stampede like because they are so poorly laid out. The main ride looks awesome, the others are just theming makeovers of old, old rides…not even a different track…hows that groundbreaking? Yes harry potter is a nice looking land with one good ride…..i dont see too many universal studios forums and websites for fans though…why. They lack one thing that disney doesnt, brains and a heart. Its just eye candy
Disney will never be touch. Okay? They make new stuff instead of other parks who just copy what Disney does. Disney is number one. And Disney World is Walts pride and joy its always going to top everybody else. Look at the Magic The Memeories and you show. Disney has stuff planned that you dont even know about!
These posts are a little old, but I’m sure Disney’s acquisition of Lucas Films and the entire Star Wars Universe surely trumps anything Universal has done or will do with Harry Potter. Just thinking about the possibilities Star Wars brings to the Disney experience is enough to boggle the mind.
To paraphrase the words of a certain mad doctor, they didn’t build it for YOU, actually… 😉
The Fantasyland expansion wasn’t built for coaster nuts hoping for a Harvard/Yale rivalry with Harry Potter–The expansion was the reason DIsney had hired all those “Disney Moms” panels to isolate what parents with kids were complaining about.
And what parents were complaining about were 1) Long lines on the Dumbo ride, and 2) Parents bloodthirstily cramming the Castle breakfasts because they literally didn’t know where to find the Princess characters inside the park. (It’s not like the Mickey’s Toontown store exactly called attention to itself.)
If anything, Belle’s Village seems to be its own Hogwarts, in terms of “immersive scenery”, if not cheap coaster thrills. As for why we have so MUCH Snow White train, think that was another reaction to the first Expansion plans, that got the planned princess houses exiled to their own building: “Where’s Snow?” and “Nothing to ride”. 🙂
As for Pixie Hollow, I’m still hoping they just left it off the concept art because they were only concentrating what could be guaranteed by “Fall 2012”, and avoid any embarrassing delay-questions later, since the Hollow wasn’t planned to be finished till ’13…That way they could “surprise” shareholders later. Optimistic, I know. 🙁
Disney is absolutely doing this to compete with Harry Potter. The timing of this is in and of itself evidence of that. While I love the Beauty and the Beast idea, Disney is lacking the ride it needs. It’ll do great when it opens, but it’s still far from what could have been.
The executives in Orlando care more about the bottom line than anything else. When you look at what Disney’s doing in California, Florida just seems to fall short in comparison. The original plans for this expansion would have been much more amazing. They’re still good, but again, falling short of what they could be. They really need to focus more on revamping Hollywood Studios.
Well, this ‘coaster nut’ is extremely excited about the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train! I love Disney parks, but I don’t come here BECAUSE of the coasters – it’s just one of the things I do when I go. Not sure what all the fuss is about. Disney is expanding Fantasyland, finally, and it looks pretty well-rounded. Of course they are competing with Universal for travel $$, but of course they are NOT competing with ‘ride wars’. That’s not what Disney World is about. WDW is about the whole experience, and any of my coaster friends who appreciate Disney, love the park(s) for the entire experience. If you want big coasters, you go to a thrill park. WDW will never be that, and it shouldn’t be, in my opinion.
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Anonymouse
And THIS is supposed to be the “male appeal” they were looking for?
IMO, Disney really isn’t finding the right angles in making their parks more interesting or more competitive. All these changes to DCA and MK seem to be more about increasing park capacity by jamming as many people into a queue as they possibly can.
spencer
Well….. what do you want from them. Speaking for the new fantasyland it would seem that they are adding immersive areas, Amazing attractions, Great new restaurants, as well as staying competitive with universal. I mean look at the Belle area. Its pretty much a complete copy of Harry Potter land. Castle set on a mountain in the background, Surrounded by shops and restaurants which replicate a movie franchise. Plus they’re adding 2 new E ticket attractions plus new interactive queues, plus meet and greet areas, plus completely immersively themed areas. could they be any more obvious that they’re trying to match universal and one up them at the same time. And yes of course they are trying to increase capacity they are a business and they are probably not going to invest millions of dollars if they aren’t going to see a return.
Marcus
2 new E ticket attrations????
Where?
A little snow white dwarfs ride and little mermaid are not E tickets.
The meet and greets can not compete with Harry Potter at universal.
joshdarkensins
perhaps we should wait and ride the rides and walk round these areas and actully expierience these things before we write these thins off as being horrible or praise them for being great. However as far as size goes both mermaid and snow will not be “little” rides they’re footprints are huge. I just hope they use some new technology in the rides as well as around the lands. that will really be the determining factor if these rides can compete with the competition or not.
Anon
I’d say a mine roller coaster and a circus aren’t necessarily for boys, but for EVERYONE. Why does everyone claim that Disney simply HAS to add an attraction specifically for boys? How do you even define that? That’s just being sexist. I am happy with what they are adding and even happier with what they are not: Pixie Hallow.
spencer
yea pixie hollow was just a bad idea from the start. I could see adding a little meet and greet like disneyland but not a whole big area. the franchise just obviously isnt that long standing. I dont know who decided to even contemplate that idea….. I actually am really excited for the fantasyland expansion now. Im a little disappointed the witch wont have a part in this. kinda sucks if they dont put her in.
Jeff
I agree, but there are so many boy-centric concepts to be worked with. How about a Tron light-cycle attraction? Why not take the ride vehicle tech from Toy Story Mania and make a 3-D whizz through space with Wall-E with the idea being that you have a fire extinguisher and are floating in space? Hercules is about as boy centric as Disney gets, yet it is ignored in the parks. There’s plenty of imagination in the world for a Woody/cowboy themed attraction in Frontierland. With so many opportunities for boys, it’s a shame to see them relegated to Pirates and Princes Charming.
Caleb
Perfectly fits Fantasyland. Maybe your ideas are better suited for Tomorrowland.
Becky
I’m a girl and I think a TRON ride would be BRILLIANT! When I heard that they were doing the elecTRONica I was so depressed to have missed it and I think with the new TRON: Legacy film opening this film back up to the younger generation should give it a space in Hollywood Studios so us TRON nerds have a space! Although I am looking forward to the new Beauty and the Beast area, if it is done well. As it was one of my favourite films as a child and I am fascinated to see what they would do for the West Wing. A Hercules area would be veeeery cool but I can’t think as to where they would put it, it could go in Animal Kingdom as some kind of Ancient Greek Ruin maybe…
Chris
i always wondered why disney has never influenced their incredible character line-up with park scenery. from the begining they should have added an attraction based on a character that has recently came out but no. theyve kept the same “traditonal” worn out rides from the past with characters this generation doesnt know of or a generic theme (such as animal kingdom where they could have used pride rock or something of that nature). i swear if disney ever woke up from his grave and saw that the park is vertually the same way he planned it after seeing the new technology used in other parks, he’d beat the hell out of the imagineers.
Tom
Caifornia Adventure is getting Carsland with 3 rides, plus Little Mermaid this summer and the awesome World of Color fountain show last summer, yet disneyworld is getting essentially meet n greets? What gives?
Harry Potter World > meet n greets
Caleb
How do two new rides, two new restaurants and newly themed and retooled areas equal meet n greets? Looks pretty cool and fits the park nicely.
Amusement
In my opinion, it is not the same as meet and greets but still disappointing. When you look at what Universal did, Disney doesn’t come close with these plans.
And, the latest reports claim that Universal’s not done yet. They are looking to expand the Wizarding World by… drum roll… 2013! If Disney is serious about competing with Harry Potter, they’re going to have to do better than this.
One of the rumored attractions for Harry Potter’s expansion is an indoor steel coaster. If that’s the case, Disney might want to scrap the carnival land and add somthing that would really wow people. Dumbo’s no E ticket and shouldn’t be what’s drawing people to the land. Take down one or both tents and put in an amazing ride! That would help against Potter… not Snow White.
CHeech
if you read the reviews for harry potter during even remotely busy times, you’ll see most people say its wall to wall people, extreme wait times, the shops are stampede like because they are so poorly laid out. The main ride looks awesome, the others are just theming makeovers of old, old rides…not even a different track…hows that groundbreaking? Yes harry potter is a nice looking land with one good ride…..i dont see too many universal studios forums and websites for fans though…why. They lack one thing that disney doesnt, brains and a heart. Its just eye candy
Dean
Disney will never be touch. Okay? They make new stuff instead of other parks who just copy what Disney does. Disney is number one. And Disney World is Walts pride and joy its always going to top everybody else. Look at the Magic The Memeories and you show. Disney has stuff planned that you dont even know about!
Bill
These posts are a little old, but I’m sure Disney’s acquisition of Lucas Films and the entire Star Wars Universe surely trumps anything Universal has done or will do with Harry Potter. Just thinking about the possibilities Star Wars brings to the Disney experience is enough to boggle the mind.
EricJ
To paraphrase the words of a certain mad doctor, they didn’t build it for YOU, actually… 😉
The Fantasyland expansion wasn’t built for coaster nuts hoping for a Harvard/Yale rivalry with Harry Potter–The expansion was the reason DIsney had hired all those “Disney Moms” panels to isolate what parents with kids were complaining about.
And what parents were complaining about were 1) Long lines on the Dumbo ride, and 2) Parents bloodthirstily cramming the Castle breakfasts because they literally didn’t know where to find the Princess characters inside the park. (It’s not like the Mickey’s Toontown store exactly called attention to itself.)
If anything, Belle’s Village seems to be its own Hogwarts, in terms of “immersive scenery”, if not cheap coaster thrills. As for why we have so MUCH Snow White train, think that was another reaction to the first Expansion plans, that got the planned princess houses exiled to their own building: “Where’s Snow?” and “Nothing to ride”. 🙂
As for Pixie Hollow, I’m still hoping they just left it off the concept art because they were only concentrating what could be guaranteed by “Fall 2012”, and avoid any embarrassing delay-questions later, since the Hollow wasn’t planned to be finished till ’13…That way they could “surprise” shareholders later. Optimistic, I know. 🙁
Amusement
Disney is absolutely doing this to compete with Harry Potter. The timing of this is in and of itself evidence of that. While I love the Beauty and the Beast idea, Disney is lacking the ride it needs. It’ll do great when it opens, but it’s still far from what could have been.
The executives in Orlando care more about the bottom line than anything else. When you look at what Disney’s doing in California, Florida just seems to fall short in comparison. The original plans for this expansion would have been much more amazing. They’re still good, but again, falling short of what they could be. They really need to focus more on revamping Hollywood Studios.
Deb Vanderpoel
Well, this ‘coaster nut’ is extremely excited about the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train! I love Disney parks, but I don’t come here BECAUSE of the coasters – it’s just one of the things I do when I go. Not sure what all the fuss is about. Disney is expanding Fantasyland, finally, and it looks pretty well-rounded. Of course they are competing with Universal for travel $$, but of course they are NOT competing with ‘ride wars’. That’s not what Disney World is about. WDW is about the whole experience, and any of my coaster friends who appreciate Disney, love the park(s) for the entire experience. If you want big coasters, you go to a thrill park. WDW will never be that, and it shouldn’t be, in my opinion.
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