Rise of Skywalker took all of the ideas from episodes 7 and 8 and totally pissed them away. I don’t think a novel, no matter how amazing, can make that movie work for me. It was DOA with the opening crawl.
These squels were trash I’m still mad about the Finn bate and switch. They’ve really made no attempt to fight that all. I wanted to see it reveal him as a windu.
All of it was on Purpose mistake we made was not Disney buying Star Wars it was putting KK in charge first and she did was in the lead half the fan base didn’t talk crap about the same fans who have issues with her leader ship and now Star Wars is a husk of what it was
there is nothing that can be done to fix the sequels other than totally destroying them forgetting they ever existed and firing Kennedy she is the poison that is ruined star wars because of her agenda’s
That’s the stupidest thing I ever heard. The only thing that would satisfy me is to decanonize the last 3 trilogy. As far as I’m concerned SW left off in return of the Jedi. Everyone I know feels same way. Stop character assasinating original SW heroes.
You can’t “right” the Sequels, as the fundamentally undo every accomplishment the Original trilogy did, just to lazily redo it with cheap imitation characters.
The only solution is a decanonization of the Sequels, then to go forward in the freed up timeline.
Their best bet would be to bring in a ton of Timothy Zahn Expanded Universe lore as the foundation for this freed up timeline. So having Luke Skywalker successfully rebuilding the Jedi Order with his first apprentice Mara Jade.
From here they could work in other characters from both prior timelines like an older Ahsoka, Kyle Katarn, Corran Horn, the Solo kids, Grogu, Cal Kestes, Kam and Tionne, Cilghal, Quinlan Vos and/or his kids. Heck maybe even a redone Rey or Finn too.
How about we write a book that took place over a decade earlier. But you should watch the movie first. Then read the book and then rewatch the movie. This way the movie should suck less the 2nd time you watch it.
That’s actually a brilliant idea for Star Wars reboot actually. As we could just chalk up both Legends and “Canon” (I guess it can be branded “Fables” now) as let’s say force vision lessons given to Luke by the Force Priestesses from TCW season 6… who did something similar but less extreme to Yoda.
Then they could mix in elements of both prior continuities for fans. So as an example, the First Order could now be one of many warlord groups the Empire broke down to in Legends. While we mostly go with say the Legends characters returning (because they’re vastly better written), so Leia has her Legends kids but due to visions from both Legends and Fables, Luke now knows Leia’s son will likely be targeted by darksiders as an apprentice.
We can also have now being aware he needs to assemble and train adult Jedi unlike in canon because that worked out better. But here let’s skip the Callista Ming stuff and just slow burn Luke and Mara Jade as a couple and eventually becoming parents too. Though no reason we can’t get Grogu here, or maybe some ex-Jedi like Quinlan Vos with his Legends family, Cal Kestes from Canon/Fables and Ahsoka too.
You get the idea by now, a few elements from Luke’s visions can return… while other stuff were merely teased, warnings or lessons.
Plus no need to worry about Rey, as she isn’t born until 11 years after Endor and then not found for 19 years even after that. So a decades after the reboot is set to start. Lots of time for hot feels about her character to settle with the fandom and if she one day returns it can be far weaker.
Terrible ideas.theres a reason why fans are fans and not writers. The problem with the sequels wasn’t the fact that Finn wasn’t a Windu.it was a lack of cohesion, largely due to the Rise of Skywalker and the fact that Disney felt it was more important to cater to fanboys who needed to check their fan service boxes then tell a good story.
Rian, is that you defending how you killed a trilogy’s entire story in the second movie? Forcing your collaborating director to rewrite his script a dozen times as you keep cutting his ot threads.
Lmao. “Decanonize” to “right” things for a few butthurt fanboys. Sequel trilogy is canon, period, no matter how much you whine (I’m sure you will). For many though, they are awesome movies with great characters and you’ll just need to live with that. Bit*hing on the internet might make you feel valid for a few minutes but it won’t change anything.
Yet in here you appear to be a minority and in every facebook star wars group I am in the majority is against these mock-ups-for-movies they tried to use to ruin the original characters with to heighten their own new characters.
It is YOU who need to accept they’re horrible and that the majority of fans wants them de-canonized and replaced with something good, Goofy.
Regardless of criticisms of the Sequel Trilogy, I don’t believe that Disney under Chapek, has shown any inclination to erase the movies, which would be a practical impossibility, in any case.
It seems the thinking is to make the SW tent to be as inclusive and inviting as possible, and not figuratively give the finger to those viewers for whom the Sequels was their first theatrical experience of SW.
And yes, there are many people that actually do Luke them and th3 new characters, particularly Kylo/Ben and Rey.
There’s no question that the grosses fell off drastically for TLJ and TROS. However, consider how many of the hardcore fandom likely didn’t even watch the latter even once. So, even though it ‘only’ had receipts of just north of 1 billion, that signifies many folks who did go the the theater, some on a repeated basis, no doubt
Yeah, no. I’m no huge Star Wars fan but hated the sequel trilogy. It has no meaningful connection to the other 6 movies that came before..and Disney is trying to forget them with the direction and stories I’m the shows that gave recently come like The Mandalorian and Obi Wan Kenobi.
While I would very much like to see the sequel movies wiped from canon, I doubt it will happen.
A new set of old, old republic prequel movies might be a good way to wash away the bad taste the sequel movies left in most fans mouths. I only wish disney didn’t own the series.
Absolutely! It would have been so much better if they followed Timothy Zahn’s stories in the first place. Hopefully they listen to your advice and don’t continue there typical Disney blunder.
No one is going to rewatch the sequel trilogy. If anything it needs to be totally remade along with the Kenobi series. You can’t make bad film/TV then try to make more things to get people to watch more of it again. It’s like no one is going to invest the time in game of thrones after the abysmal showing in season 8.
The sequel trilogy is not savable and it’s completely incompatible with the previous movies in the franchise. Hyperspace ramming all-by-itself completely destroys entire previous movies, like the original one, A New Hope. The whole plot of that movie was about the struggle to destroy the Death Star. But if the Death Star could have simply been destroyed by just taking 4 or 5 X-Wings with Astromech droids in them and ripping apart the Death Star with repeated hyperspace rammings, then the whole movie falls apart.
De-canonize the movies. There exists no other way of fixing the situation.
Ok lets cancel Mandalorian, Boba and Kenobi then since KK shouldn’t be doing anything. Or maybe you just need to grow up and realize not everything goes the way you want and learn to live with it like most adults do.
The Mandalorian doesn’t destroy original canon in favor of the Disney one. It adds to it in true Star Wars narrative fashion without destroying the original stories.
Book of boba and Kenobi do destroy more than they add in favor of the disney agenda. That’s why so many Fans hate those two Shows.
Rogue One is a great example of Star Wars done right, as is the Mandalorian.
Btw… responding in tantrum like Fashion isn’t helping your case… Goofy.
I feel ya. The Goof seems to be the only one who likes the new movies. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s one of Disney’s writers haha Probably closed his eyes in that awful chase scene in Kenobi to. I’m betting he has a Jar Jar shirt on right now
Decouple The Mandalorian from the Sequel Teilogy and Book of Boba Fett (and make it closer to Legends Fett and no hijacki g his show) and rewrite Season 3 then I might agree with the assessment.
Andor is also a good thriller that does not interfere with the movie or Legends canon. And if you needed to, rewrite Rogue One to fit in with Operation: Skyhook (the Legends operation to acquire the Death Star plans).
The sequel trilogy is not savable and it’s completely incompatible with the previous movies in the franchise. Hyperspace ramming all-by-itself completely destroys entire previous movies, like the original one, A New Hope. The whole plot of that movie was about the struggle to destroy the Death Star. But if the Death Star could have simply been destroyed by just taking 4 or 5 X-Wings with Astromech droids in them and ripping apart the Death Star with repeated hyperspace rammings, then the whole movie falls apart.
De-canonize the movies. There exists no other way of fixing the situation.
Sequel Trilogy was garbage. Stories that didnt connect or make sense. Just cause they take place in space doesnt mean its starwars. I feel bad for Kathleen Kennedy in the fact that she failed.
She had plenty of stories to go from and she decided to do something different.
Please have a story with ezra, Ahsoka, and clone of anakin or luke go into the force void to change events in the past to make the sequels good.
Help us Favreau and Filloni your our only hope.
The Sequels are CRAP, and will always be CRAP. Start over. Fans don’t want or accept “Rey Skywalker”, Rose Tico, Admiral Holdo, or (worst of all) making space derelicts out of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo!!!!!!!! The “World Between Worlds” can enable a total retcon, but there’s no way that Han,Luke, Leia, and Lando would EVER allow the rise of the First Order. And where are the force ghosts of Yoda,Obi-Wan, and Anakin? And what became of Ahsoka and Grogu?
There is no way to polish the Sequel turds. Start over. It’s almost too late now, because the Obi-Wan series stank-on-ice DESPITE excellent work by Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christiansen. Get Kathleen Kennedy OUT of Star Wars, put out some brilliant content (“Rebels”, “Clone Wars”, and “Mando” quality), and hope the fans return.
I don’t give a crap about your childish whining, but the part that sucks is that you think you speak for all the fandom when spewing this garbage and maybe someone else will think so too, when in fact you speak for a loud, obnoxious minority. Are you this butthurt and childish about other things in life, or just this one movie franchise? Either way, you sound miserable, maybe you should give up on SW and get of the internet in general if you can’t deal with things.
How precisely have you come to the conclusion that only a small minority of fans have an issue? Look at the box office receipts, they dropped for each subsequent movie in the sequel trilogy. Obviously the audience for the films wasn’t responding positively to the new films. Disney isn’t going to reboot the sequels but you’re just as delusional as the group that thinks they will if you think the majority of people liked the fuster cluck that was the sequels.
I didn’t hate Obi Wan Kenobi…but it was short and should have been 8-10 episodes instead of 6. We should have seen more interaction between Anakin and Obi Wan Kenobi. Having Obi Wan defeating Anakin again was the right move and it aligns with the history between the two characters. Vader will never beat Obi Wan regardless of how powerful he becomes because he lives on emotion and rage alone. Hopefully we get a more fleshed out second season.
I agree with most of what people have commented on here. I enjoyed episode 7 and thought it had potential. Even though it was flawed I thought it could be saved. 8 and 9 however I found greatly disappointing (hated what they did to Luke’s character) and 9 was the first star wars that was so boring I fell asleep. Unfortunately Disney’s real life decisions have been so bad I can no longer support them and hope the whole company goes bankrupt and gets rebooted. I think Walt would be appalled.
Trust me, as good as Filoni and Favreau are, some Expanded Universe authors make them look like amateurs. Timothy Zahn, Michael Stackpole and James Luciano are great examples. If John Favreau and Dave Filoni brought these guys into help them map out the future, Star Wars will be outselling any Avengers film.
Go read the Original Thrawn trilogy (and all his other works. Heck just as an example Zahn had a squad of Stormtroopers in his books that easily rivaled Rex and Fives as Clone troopers… and Mara Jade is easily the best written female protagonist in the franchise, she goes through such developments that even Ahsoka can’t compare), the X-Wing books (basically Top Gun/Spy Thriller meets liberating Coruscant from the Empire), and New Jedi Order (a great next generation passing of the torch… basically a totally original enemy that makes the Empire look like a joke but brilliantly keeps hope alive). Would be an insanely great roadmap to fixing the franchise.
You’ve already just about destroyed the most valuable IP in the history of entertainment. You could at least hire a few people this time that can write a story and know the source material. Instead I’m sure you will continue hiring political activists and box checkers. At this point I hope you fail and are forced to sell the IP to another company
STAR WOKE cannot be saved. Too many people with too little knowledge & too little love for the IP were given too much creative power. At first, it made me sad…then it made me angry. Now, with everything KK & crew have done recently…I can barely care.
Any additional movies are just a patch on the gaping wound that has become Star Wars on the big screen. The best thing the Disney+ series can do is reference and work within the time prior to the sequels and squeeze what you can out of this time period. Tell new stories with characters like Thrawn but for God’s sake DO NOT introduce any of the trash from the sequels. Listen to the fans, we want nothing to do with this horrible story telling.
Just as millions of people around the world disliked episodes 7-9, there are millions who enjoyed them, and millions who thought they were OK/not bad.
I thought they were OK, but the least interesting to rewatch.
Perspective: if you see those films (as you should tbh) in the whole canon of SW, then yes, they fail because they create too much confusion by what should be ‘true’. However, I watched them as new, somewhat disconnected from the previous story, and enjoyed something in them
In the end though, Disney has shown it is capable of quality SW with the Mandalorian, but also capable of poor plot lines and dialogue with episodes 7-9, Book of Boba, and ObiWan.
I watched episode IV as a 6-year-old in 1977, and fell in love. Now, I realise those days are long gone. Star Wars isn’t Star Wars anymore.
I agree with the first part of your comment: millions of people.lpve these movies and for countless, it has been an introduction to Star Wars. That includes my children: these were their first connection with SW and they love the movies and the characters. I was introduced to the OT in the 80’s/90’s and fell in love with SW back then. I’ve really enjoyed all trilogies and the shows too, maybe BoB was a bit of a disappointment but not bad either. The point is, for every whining online fan there are a number of fans that loved even the sequels and those making the most noise online tend to forget this.
No, it’s widely known that everyone that has seen the older movies doesn’t like the sequel, it literally all over the internet and if you had enough braincells you would know. I don’t care what your children like and don’t like, most children have a horrible taste jn entertainment. For every person that likes this movie there 100 people that hate it.
It shouldn’t be that the only people who liked the movies are the people who didn’t see the previous movies in the series… it says that the next series that comes along you aren’t going to like either and only nee fans will like it
You hit the crux of the problem on its head. The Prequel and Classic trilogies did NOT need novels to make sense to the viewer (the Prequel trilogy novelizations though are great reads).
The fact the Disney canon need novels and comics to fix the plot show the underlying problem outside of lacking a unified direction. Bad script writing. If a movie can’t stand alone, then it wasn’t written well.
The ST has to be decanonized. Suth Wayfinder IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE DAGGER OF MORTIS! Btw the poor Lando lost his daughter? Thats a stolen fanfiction and it was Han searching for his and Leias younger daughter. Made too much sense, the story groups disgusting bigotry against straight white alphas obviously pointed them towards poor Lando. This book is trash. Stop trying to rationalize this obscene discriminatory garbage.
Just decanonize the sequels. They are are irredeemable. 3 movies and they range from derivative to terrible. I am frankly amazed Kathleen Kennedy still has a job.
Article makes a glaring misstatement. That Palpatine had been working with cloning tech is cannon, and was introduced long before the last movie in the comics. After Palpatine “died” on the Death Star in RotJ his force presence inhabited one of his many clone bodies. He even cloned Luke, which is how Mara Jade was able to work around her force compulsion to kill Luke.
The secret trilogy was disappointing. Yes they should reboot it the right way considering they throughout everything we new about star wars. But this time get a director who knows and loves it. Fire Kennedy, she is so wrong for star wars, but she probably okay for barbie wars.
The first thing they need to do, is get the Star Wars franchise the hell out of Disneys evil corrupt hands. Then have someone without ulterior motives to wright something good. Either a true Star Wars fan, or the original creator, George Lucas.
Has the author actually read Shadow of the Sith? Because it certainly does not fix even a fraction of the issues in RoTS. If anything it actually causes more problems than it solves
If your story requires extended material after the fact to make the story make sense…it’s not a very good story. Ans regardless of what they’ve done to try to correct the numerous plotholes in the story, they’re not even trying to address the impact of how they left things. I.e. despite what they want fans to believe, all of the Skywalkers are in fact gone, and did not rise. There really isn’t a way around that that will not ring hollow or show as a cop out.
Are you kidding me?
She’d kill off the entire Barbie line of products with one movie.
She’s not intelligent enough to write and develop her own heroes, but she is an idiot enough to destroy a well loved, around for a while franchise built by real visionaries.
Hey guys, since the movies that we put out were complete trash, I hope that you read this book that no one will read to explain why our plot was so bad
I don’t know how Disney can take star wars and mess it up so bad. Same with marvel, leave it alone it’s stupid now with too many sidelines and stories just to make a buck. Disney you killed it all. Now bury it.
There’s no “righting” the sequel trilogy. You would have to erase everything post-Lucas. Books, series, movies, everything. Lucas would have to retain control of Star Wars and never sell the property to Disney to begin with. That’s the only way.
Retcon Luke’s miserable Last Jedi future through a Disney+ series with Sebastian Stan. Everything rotten about Star Wars revolves around Johnson’s sabotage of Luke Skywalker’s timeline.
Rey is NOT a Skywalker. And having Palatine being alive makes Anakins sacrifice a joke. Scrap 7, 8 and 9 and honor the promise that K. Kennedy made to George Lucas to follow his script. The sequel trilogy was supposed to be about Leia. “Without respect we reject!”
I have 0 interest in Disney’s Star Wars fan fiction. I’m tired of them botching it. Excepting Mandolorean, there is nothing new they have added to the franchise that doesn’t take away from what was good. The sooner they create an all new storyline that doesn’t desecrate the legacy the better.
I’m sorry; I made a big mistake and misspoke in my comment. For this to be Disney’s Star Wars fan fiction, they would actually have had to have been a fan.
The easiest solution to this is to have the Sequels be a prophetic dream Luke has. We’ve already proven Disney can make younger versions of characters return, just have Snoke’s arrival and Ben’s fall be a prophecy that Luke is trying to prevent from happening. That way the new fans can still say those events happened in a future alternate timeline, but you can also eat your cake by not having them as the “Prime” timeline. Boom, I solved Star Wars.
My only problem with Force Awakens was killing Han. My only problem with Last Jedi was Rian abandoning everything he was handed on a silver platter by JJ only to go in completely wrong directions and killing Snoke in such a sloppy unbecoming manner. My only issue with Rise was killing Luke after such badassery after making him look like a whiny old man and not letting us in on what Finn had to say to Rey. Clearly he wanted to let her know he was force sensitive. It’s ok Finn, she knows. You most likely wouldn’t have been able to wield the light Saber so skillfully if you weren’t. Same with Rey. She should’ve been Luke’s daughter not Palpatines.
I seriously don’t get this idea that everything must go just as you imagine it should because you’re a fan. I found the sequels completely superb. Just the fact that you find the sequels more palatable now because someone wrote a book with some back story that alleviates you’re anxiety about accepting a new story is ridiculous. An entire swath of canon in the novel genre were thrown out after LucasArts carefully curated it. So what? Star Trek threw out canon by creating a new timeline, DC and Marvel created the multiverse so there is no canon at all. Just enjoy it for what it it…entertainment.
The whole issue is that Disney took Star Wars, threw George Lucas to the curb and created their own Star Wars canon and ignoring the original George Lucas canon. They shouldn’t have done that. If they had kept the George Lucas Star Wars canon and created their story around it then the stories in the sequel would make more sense. They did the wrong thing when they dismissed both George Lucas and the George Lucas Star Wars canon.
Disney’s biggest mistake was in killing off beloved characters with abysmal story telling, rather than just writing their own story in a galaxy far far away.
“Star wars to pour new energy into righting sequels”
Me: Omg, they’re going to make them non-canon?
“Heres a book we will retcon as soon as it pleases us.”
Me: Gotdayumit
Best bet is to stop making them. As you can see Hollywood is running out of ideas. Instead they are forced to make garbage showing all races, sexual orientations, and PC plot lines. So, how bout you let something die with what dignity it has left, you leeches.
So, my guess is Lucasfilm will not spend hundreds of millions to create a movie that attempt s to rewrite a previous SW trilogy. Ain’t gonna’ happen. You all watched the previous 9 movies as well as the Disney serieses’z and like it or not, it is what it is. I like watching the “extras” and “behind the scenes” because then you get a really good idea of how much work goes into the production. They give 100% and more folks. They’re very good at their craft so let’s show a little support? I for one enjoy all the movies because they’re great entertainment. Nobody’s perfect and you have a right to be disgruntled, but trying to change anything canon with a new feature likely not gonna work. So, I enjoyed the Kenobi series; looking forward to the next, uh … Can’t think of the name… It eludes me… But also looking to the new “Star Wars” trilogy even though it won’t be a Skywalker saga. Calm down, let it be, and enjoy! Ciao!
Regardless of criticisms of the Sequel Trilogy, I don’t believe that Disney under Chapek, has shown any inclination to erase the movies, which would be a practical impossibility, in any case.
It seems the thinking is to make the SW tent to be as inclusive and inviting as possible, and not figuratively give the finger to those viewers for whom the Sequels was their first theatrical experience of SW.
And yes, there are many people that actually do like them and the new characters, particularly Kylo/Ben and Rey.
There’s no question that the grosses fell off drastically for TLJ and TROS. However, consider how many of the hardcore fandom likely didn’t even choose to pay to see the latter, even once. So, even though it ‘only’ had receipts of just north of 1 billion, that signifies many folks who did go to the theater, some on a repeated basis, no doubt.
Sequal trilogy is non canon fan fiction, any book or other form of media that tries to make sense of those movies is a hard look at Disney trying desperately to profit from their failures to understand their communities
The key problem of the sequels was that Disney said “Ok the expanded universe is not canon any more” Then proceeded to create the sequels with bastardised (and watered down) Expanded universe content. Now no matter what extra they bring in, the sequels will continue being the worst of the three trilogies.
When you have a car that is a lemon, best thing to do is scrap it, the more you invest money into it, the more you will be wasting money for nothing.
Start over, Disney is good at that. This time, hire people that know SW (Feloni/Favreau) instead of hiring cheap upcoming Director/writers that know f-all about how SW works.
No, I’m not reading the book so I can understand the new trilogy. If I MUST read a book to understand the crap you threw on screen, that’s a big friggin clue YOU MADE THE MOVIE WRONG.
Books should expand the universe for those who want to know what else is going on. They should not be required reading to understand the movie.
You know….I’m 62 years old. ALIVE when Star Wars came….and have been a Huge fan ever since. LOVED the og trilogy, LOVED LOVED the prequels trilogy…and highly enjoyed the sequel trilogy. Not one damn thing wrong with them!!! I get so sick of pundits like yourself and those damn so called fanboys. It was their story to tell and they did it brilliantly. I am also so very tired of being told I shouldn’t like them by the likes of you. If you don’t like it good for you, then write a screenplay, come up with the capital and you tell your story. Articles like this just don’t know why I even bother to read….and I already know what your argument will be.
I remember reading that book when I was a kid. The emperor had many clones and Luke had to fight all of them. None of them where the original emp. I think this is a bad idea.. I think making a bad prequel to make a bad sequel is just not a good idea. Of course what every new star wars that comes out is gonna make profit but it’s not gonna be the kind of profit they expect.. recasting Luke Skywalker is a nightmare. If mark is not the main. I don’t care to watch it .
I wasted valuable money and time on those crap sequels. Now they want me to dish out more time and money for a book that will “fix” what they f-ed up?!?! No! Not falling for it again! You should fix it for everyone FOR FREE first, then we can see about giving you our hard earned dollars. And try harder to not f things up in the future. If you had done it right the first time, you wouldn’t have needed to try to fix episode VIII in episode IX. No excuse for those poorly thought out, written and directed films.
TLJ is the third best movie in the Skywalker Saga. Period. As for things that should be wiped out of existence, maybe we should start with edgelord fanbois.
All Disney had to do was follow Rian Johnson’s lead in creating something new for Star Wars, and ignore the smelly neckbeard edgelords whining about how the new movies don’t fit their unimaginative headcanon.
The focus on Rise of Skywalker completely misses the point. The problem is and always will be The Last Jedi. No amount of extra books or new animated series is going to fix that.
At this point it’s just damage control. The books/games/comics used to be for enhancing the universe, not for what amounts to retconning the corners they painted themselves into with their god awful storytelling. Honestly I don’t even care about those 3 movies anymore, I barely even think about them much less try to come up with BS ways to make them work when they clearly just don’t.
I am actually currently reading (well listening to the audiobook as I’ve gotten really spoiled on the immersion that Star Wars ones provide through amazing production with licensed sound and score along with great voice talent overall for narration). I must say, while I actually enjoyed IX and still do, this book as I’m listening through is so far providing some real depth and fill-ins to not just events and each characters’ part in them, but a front row view into their thoughts, motivations, etc. Not read or heard of Christopher before, but in sharing his nane as my own first and middle though with a different last name, I’m impressed especially as I’ve sampled A LOT of different writers/storytellers in SW through shows, books, comics, games etc. And to use the overused cliche, The Force is with this one indeed thus far.
Maybe it would behoove Disney to use the information on Wookiepedia for SW knowledge instead of coming up with their own. This would alleviate a lot of headaches and hurt butts.
A trilogy explaining the Dark Jedi/Sith origins and the initial war with the Jedi would be entertaining (not a series, SW was never a series type of endeavor, it was more an expanded novel story on the big screen). Include up to episode I, show how the Darth Sidious/Darth Maul partnership originated during the Sith exile.
There’s so much they could do using Wookiepedia and people like Jon Favreau, Mark Hamill, and others who understood Lucas’s story. Stop Disneying everything, think about why P. L. Travers wept and left during the screening of Mary Poppins. Sometimes, going away from what is written and choosing to use one’s own interpretations ruins the masterpiece that already exists.
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Decanonize it and make a new one about Jar Jar the sith lord trying to destroy the new republic.
Shawn
That’s the funniest thing I’ve ever heard!
Poopy Butt
Rise of Skywalker took all of the ideas from episodes 7 and 8 and totally pissed them away. I don’t think a novel, no matter how amazing, can make that movie work for me. It was DOA with the opening crawl.
Jace
These squels were trash I’m still mad about the Finn bate and switch. They’ve really made no attempt to fight that all. I wanted to see it reveal him as a windu.
I am 1-6
💯agreed
AMP
This is what happens when you cut out the novels and try to make your story. Now they looking in star wars novels to fix the movies!
I am 1-6
All of it was on Purpose mistake we made was not Disney buying Star Wars it was putting KK in charge first and she did was in the lead half the fan base didn’t talk crap about the same fans who have issues with her leader ship and now Star Wars is a husk of what it was
Ron
I happened to like the trilogy, I like the idea of Rey. Wish the would have developed the character better.
Robert Huskins
Fire Kennedy!
Prawn
Right though, talk about adding insult to injury.
Ought to cut the losses and just recanonize the EU novels
sean hickin
there is nothing that can be done to fix the sequels other than totally destroying them forgetting they ever existed and firing Kennedy she is the poison that is ruined star wars because of her agenda’s
Scott
Her agenda’s what?
KELLY KARINE DE SOUZA CASTRO
Amo as sequências. Torço para o resgate de Ben Solo do mundo entre mundos. Esta família merece um final mais digno.
Mykster
You mean, “Jar Jar Abrams”?😜
O.k. fair enough, it’s all Rian Johnson’s fault.😒
While we may have wanted to “lik”e tRoS, tLJ we simply could not.😅
Phillip
That’s the stupidest thing I ever heard. The only thing that would satisfy me is to decanonize the last 3 trilogy. As far as I’m concerned SW left off in return of the Jedi. Everyone I know feels same way. Stop character assasinating original SW heroes.
John
You can’t “right” the Sequels, as the fundamentally undo every accomplishment the Original trilogy did, just to lazily redo it with cheap imitation characters.
The only solution is a decanonization of the Sequels, then to go forward in the freed up timeline.
Their best bet would be to bring in a ton of Timothy Zahn Expanded Universe lore as the foundation for this freed up timeline. So having Luke Skywalker successfully rebuilding the Jedi Order with his first apprentice Mara Jade.
From here they could work in other characters from both prior timelines like an older Ahsoka, Kyle Katarn, Corran Horn, the Solo kids, Grogu, Cal Kestes, Kam and Tionne, Cilghal, Quinlan Vos and/or his kids. Heck maybe even a redone Rey or Finn too.
Chris
Exactly! They keep trying to write reasons why, instead of admitting dismissal failure. Needs a total re-boot.
The Plum
Okay, okay. So you didn’t like the movie.
How about we write a book that took place over a decade earlier. But you should watch the movie first. Then read the book and then rewatch the movie. This way the movie should suck less the 2nd time you watch it.
Problem solved…?
John
I agree 100%. They need to do a dallas JR reboot. Start episode 7 with Luke waking up having a bad vision of the future. A total wipe away.
John
That’s actually a brilliant idea for Star Wars reboot actually. As we could just chalk up both Legends and “Canon” (I guess it can be branded “Fables” now) as let’s say force vision lessons given to Luke by the Force Priestesses from TCW season 6… who did something similar but less extreme to Yoda.
Then they could mix in elements of both prior continuities for fans. So as an example, the First Order could now be one of many warlord groups the Empire broke down to in Legends. While we mostly go with say the Legends characters returning (because they’re vastly better written), so Leia has her Legends kids but due to visions from both Legends and Fables, Luke now knows Leia’s son will likely be targeted by darksiders as an apprentice.
We can also have now being aware he needs to assemble and train adult Jedi unlike in canon because that worked out better. But here let’s skip the Callista Ming stuff and just slow burn Luke and Mara Jade as a couple and eventually becoming parents too. Though no reason we can’t get Grogu here, or maybe some ex-Jedi like Quinlan Vos with his Legends family, Cal Kestes from Canon/Fables and Ahsoka too.
You get the idea by now, a few elements from Luke’s visions can return… while other stuff were merely teased, warnings or lessons.
Plus no need to worry about Rey, as she isn’t born until 11 years after Endor and then not found for 19 years even after that. So a decades after the reboot is set to start. Lots of time for hot feels about her character to settle with the fandom and if she one day returns it can be far weaker.
Rj
Terrible ideas.theres a reason why fans are fans and not writers. The problem with the sequels wasn’t the fact that Finn wasn’t a Windu.it was a lack of cohesion, largely due to the Rise of Skywalker and the fact that Disney felt it was more important to cater to fanboys who needed to check their fan service boxes then tell a good story.
Frank
Rian, is that you defending how you killed a trilogy’s entire story in the second movie? Forcing your collaborating director to rewrite his script a dozen times as you keep cutting his ot threads.
DominickimoDDominickDominick7@gmail.com
You liked what you seem to be annoying was poor sorry telling and charcuterie development.. Ie no story arc..? Scary.
Goofy
Lmao. “Decanonize” to “right” things for a few butthurt fanboys. Sequel trilogy is canon, period, no matter how much you whine (I’m sure you will). For many though, they are awesome movies with great characters and you’ll just need to live with that. Bit*hing on the internet might make you feel valid for a few minutes but it won’t change anything.
Dargas
Yet in here you appear to be a minority and in every facebook star wars group I am in the majority is against these mock-ups-for-movies they tried to use to ruin the original characters with to heighten their own new characters.
It is YOU who need to accept they’re horrible and that the majority of fans wants them de-canonized and replaced with something good, Goofy.
Howie
You live in an echo chamber.
Mitchell Melkin
Regardless of criticisms of the Sequel Trilogy, I don’t believe that Disney under Chapek, has shown any inclination to erase the movies, which would be a practical impossibility, in any case.
It seems the thinking is to make the SW tent to be as inclusive and inviting as possible, and not figuratively give the finger to those viewers for whom the Sequels was their first theatrical experience of SW.
And yes, there are many people that actually do Luke them and th3 new characters, particularly Kylo/Ben and Rey.
There’s no question that the grosses fell off drastically for TLJ and TROS. However, consider how many of the hardcore fandom likely didn’t even watch the latter even once. So, even though it ‘only’ had receipts of just north of 1 billion, that signifies many folks who did go the the theater, some on a repeated basis, no doubt
ACE76
Yeah, no. I’m no huge Star Wars fan but hated the sequel trilogy. It has no meaningful connection to the other 6 movies that came before..and Disney is trying to forget them with the direction and stories I’m the shows that gave recently come like The Mandalorian and Obi Wan Kenobi.
Opie Juan
It must be nice to consume media uncritically. It’ll rot your brain through, as evidenced here.
Peepee Poopoo
While I would very much like to see the sequel movies wiped from canon, I doubt it will happen.
A new set of old, old republic prequel movies might be a good way to wash away the bad taste the sequel movies left in most fans mouths. I only wish disney didn’t own the series.
Macie
Take a page of Marvel’s mess and simply use the ole Multiverse trope. We all want Jacen and Jaina, Rey was just a saccharin substitute.
LetsTacoBoutIt
The Rise of Skywalker was less of an issue than The Last Jedi was.
Zane
Yup more Timothy Zahn, less KK and the woke bunch
Bryan
Yes!! Well said. Timothy Zahn’s work is incredible. There are so many great novels written. There’s so much they have to work with already.
Michael gray
They totally blew the canon when they left out the Mara Jade story line -MWG69
Erin
Absolutely! It would have been so much better if they followed Timothy Zahn’s stories in the first place. Hopefully they listen to your advice and don’t continue there typical Disney blunder.
BP
No one is going to rewatch the sequel trilogy. If anything it needs to be totally remade along with the Kenobi series. You can’t make bad film/TV then try to make more things to get people to watch more of it again. It’s like no one is going to invest the time in game of thrones after the abysmal showing in season 8.
Eric
I agree, the one sequel trilogy move I’ve rewatched was the force awakens and that was only because there was nothing else on TV.
Joe
I agree with John.
Disney really dropped the ball with Star Wars, and they will never be able to “fix” those sequels, not with one hundred novels.
Cunningham
Amen!
Shawn
What needs to be done is a formal apology made to George Lucas and bring him in to fix the whole thing, that’s how you do it!
Phillip
I agree 100 percent.
Rewrite sequels and decanonize the tripe just force fed us.
Jeremy J Ray
Kathleen Kennedy shouldn’t be allowed near a Star Wars set after the damage she’s done!
Walt
The sequel trilogy is not savable and it’s completely incompatible with the previous movies in the franchise. Hyperspace ramming all-by-itself completely destroys entire previous movies, like the original one, A New Hope. The whole plot of that movie was about the struggle to destroy the Death Star. But if the Death Star could have simply been destroyed by just taking 4 or 5 X-Wings with Astromech droids in them and ripping apart the Death Star with repeated hyperspace rammings, then the whole movie falls apart.
De-canonize the movies. There exists no other way of fixing the situation.
Walt
I didn’t mean to reply to somebody here. This comment was supposed to be directly to the article.
Z
Amen
Goofy
Ok lets cancel Mandalorian, Boba and Kenobi then since KK shouldn’t be doing anything. Or maybe you just need to grow up and realize not everything goes the way you want and learn to live with it like most adults do.
Dargas
The Mandalorian doesn’t destroy original canon in favor of the Disney one. It adds to it in true Star Wars narrative fashion without destroying the original stories.
Book of boba and Kenobi do destroy more than they add in favor of the disney agenda. That’s why so many Fans hate those two Shows.
Rogue One is a great example of Star Wars done right, as is the Mandalorian.
Btw… responding in tantrum like Fashion isn’t helping your case… Goofy.
BP
Boba wasn’t too bad in terms of Canon. It just wasn’t that great of a story.
Mac
I feel ya. The Goof seems to be the only one who likes the new movies. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s one of Disney’s writers haha Probably closed his eyes in that awful chase scene in Kenobi to. I’m betting he has a Jar Jar shirt on right now
Chad
Decouple The Mandalorian from the Sequel Teilogy and Book of Boba Fett (and make it closer to Legends Fett and no hijacki g his show) and rewrite Season 3 then I might agree with the assessment.
Andor is also a good thriller that does not interfere with the movie or Legends canon. And if you needed to, rewrite Rogue One to fit in with Operation: Skyhook (the Legends operation to acquire the Death Star plans).
ACE76
KK had very little to do with the shows. You can than Faverou for those.
Michael gray
They never used one iota of creativity when they produced the last 3 episodes shameful they had made it for money. SMH
Walt
The sequel trilogy is not savable and it’s completely incompatible with the previous movies in the franchise. Hyperspace ramming all-by-itself completely destroys entire previous movies, like the original one, A New Hope. The whole plot of that movie was about the struggle to destroy the Death Star. But if the Death Star could have simply been destroyed by just taking 4 or 5 X-Wings with Astromech droids in them and ripping apart the Death Star with repeated hyperspace rammings, then the whole movie falls apart.
De-canonize the movies. There exists no other way of fixing the situation.
Fanboi
The only fix to the situation is that you need to get off the internet and stop crying.
Dargas
If that’s the best response you can come up with it is YOU who needs to get off the internet.
Joshua Fleischman
Sequel Trilogy was garbage. Stories that didnt connect or make sense. Just cause they take place in space doesnt mean its starwars. I feel bad for Kathleen Kennedy in the fact that she failed.
She had plenty of stories to go from and she decided to do something different.
Please have a story with ezra, Ahsoka, and clone of anakin or luke go into the force void to change events in the past to make the sequels good.
Help us Favreau and Filloni your our only hope.
BP
Not to mention the show just makes force abilities up to advance the plot rather than having a story that does that
David Maddox
The Sequels are CRAP, and will always be CRAP. Start over. Fans don’t want or accept “Rey Skywalker”, Rose Tico, Admiral Holdo, or (worst of all) making space derelicts out of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo!!!!!!!! The “World Between Worlds” can enable a total retcon, but there’s no way that Han,Luke, Leia, and Lando would EVER allow the rise of the First Order. And where are the force ghosts of Yoda,Obi-Wan, and Anakin? And what became of Ahsoka and Grogu?
There is no way to polish the Sequel turds. Start over. It’s almost too late now, because the Obi-Wan series stank-on-ice DESPITE excellent work by Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christiansen. Get Kathleen Kennedy OUT of Star Wars, put out some brilliant content (“Rebels”, “Clone Wars”, and “Mando” quality), and hope the fans return.
Lame
I don’t give a crap about your childish whining, but the part that sucks is that you think you speak for all the fandom when spewing this garbage and maybe someone else will think so too, when in fact you speak for a loud, obnoxious minority. Are you this butthurt and childish about other things in life, or just this one movie franchise? Either way, you sound miserable, maybe you should give up on SW and get of the internet in general if you can’t deal with things.
Clueless YouAre
How precisely have you come to the conclusion that only a small minority of fans have an issue? Look at the box office receipts, they dropped for each subsequent movie in the sequel trilogy. Obviously the audience for the films wasn’t responding positively to the new films. Disney isn’t going to reboot the sequels but you’re just as delusional as the group that thinks they will if you think the majority of people liked the fuster cluck that was the sequels.
Dargas
Its great that you add NOTHING of value to the topic and all you do is being obnoxious, miserable and childish in the exact same manner.
None of the sequel defenders have said anything positive to favor their view in here. You’re just rambling tantrums around being toxic.
ACE76
I didn’t hate Obi Wan Kenobi…but it was short and should have been 8-10 episodes instead of 6. We should have seen more interaction between Anakin and Obi Wan Kenobi. Having Obi Wan defeating Anakin again was the right move and it aligns with the history between the two characters. Vader will never beat Obi Wan regardless of how powerful he becomes because he lives on emotion and rage alone. Hopefully we get a more fleshed out second season.
Imissheros
I agree with most of what people have commented on here. I enjoyed episode 7 and thought it had potential. Even though it was flawed I thought it could be saved. 8 and 9 however I found greatly disappointing (hated what they did to Luke’s character) and 9 was the first star wars that was so boring I fell asleep. Unfortunately Disney’s real life decisions have been so bad I can no longer support them and hope the whole company goes bankrupt and gets rebooted. I think Walt would be appalled.
John
Trust me, as good as Filoni and Favreau are, some Expanded Universe authors make them look like amateurs. Timothy Zahn, Michael Stackpole and James Luciano are great examples. If John Favreau and Dave Filoni brought these guys into help them map out the future, Star Wars will be outselling any Avengers film.
Go read the Original Thrawn trilogy (and all his other works. Heck just as an example Zahn had a squad of Stormtroopers in his books that easily rivaled Rex and Fives as Clone troopers… and Mara Jade is easily the best written female protagonist in the franchise, she goes through such developments that even Ahsoka can’t compare), the X-Wing books (basically Top Gun/Spy Thriller meets liberating Coruscant from the Empire), and New Jedi Order (a great next generation passing of the torch… basically a totally original enemy that makes the Empire look like a joke but brilliantly keeps hope alive). Would be an insanely great roadmap to fixing the franchise.
Eric
You’ve already just about destroyed the most valuable IP in the history of entertainment. You could at least hire a few people this time that can write a story and know the source material. Instead I’m sure you will continue hiring political activists and box checkers. At this point I hope you fail and are forced to sell the IP to another company
Shannon
STAR WOKE cannot be saved. Too many people with too little knowledge & too little love for the IP were given too much creative power. At first, it made me sad…then it made me angry. Now, with everything KK & crew have done recently…I can barely care.
Randolph Holmes
Any additional movies are just a patch on the gaping wound that has become Star Wars on the big screen. The best thing the Disney+ series can do is reference and work within the time prior to the sequels and squeeze what you can out of this time period. Tell new stories with characters like Thrawn but for God’s sake DO NOT introduce any of the trash from the sequels. Listen to the fans, we want nothing to do with this horrible story telling.
Bob bob
Just as millions of people around the world disliked episodes 7-9, there are millions who enjoyed them, and millions who thought they were OK/not bad.
I thought they were OK, but the least interesting to rewatch.
Perspective: if you see those films (as you should tbh) in the whole canon of SW, then yes, they fail because they create too much confusion by what should be ‘true’. However, I watched them as new, somewhat disconnected from the previous story, and enjoyed something in them
In the end though, Disney has shown it is capable of quality SW with the Mandalorian, but also capable of poor plot lines and dialogue with episodes 7-9, Book of Boba, and ObiWan.
I watched episode IV as a 6-year-old in 1977, and fell in love. Now, I realise those days are long gone. Star Wars isn’t Star Wars anymore.
SW
I agree with the first part of your comment: millions of people.lpve these movies and for countless, it has been an introduction to Star Wars. That includes my children: these were their first connection with SW and they love the movies and the characters. I was introduced to the OT in the 80’s/90’s and fell in love with SW back then. I’ve really enjoyed all trilogies and the shows too, maybe BoB was a bit of a disappointment but not bad either. The point is, for every whining online fan there are a number of fans that loved even the sequels and those making the most noise online tend to forget this.
Bruh
No, it’s widely known that everyone that has seen the older movies doesn’t like the sequel, it literally all over the internet and if you had enough braincells you would know. I don’t care what your children like and don’t like, most children have a horrible taste jn entertainment. For every person that likes this movie there 100 people that hate it.
BP
It shouldn’t be that the only people who liked the movies are the people who didn’t see the previous movies in the series… it says that the next series that comes along you aren’t going to like either and only nee fans will like it
Sigurther
There are some things even Disney doesn’t have enough money to fix.
Jim Johnson
Not here to stay because of one book sir 🤣
Chris Kinney
I shouldn’t have to read a book to make a movie seem good.
Chad
You hit the crux of the problem on its head. The Prequel and Classic trilogies did NOT need novels to make sense to the viewer (the Prequel trilogy novelizations though are great reads).
The fact the Disney canon need novels and comics to fix the plot show the underlying problem outside of lacking a unified direction. Bad script writing. If a movie can’t stand alone, then it wasn’t written well.
Zane
Fire Darth KK, and her sith spawn, remake the last trilogy, and banish Ruin Johnson from ever making a movie for Disney again. That would be a start.
Marie
The ST has to be decanonized. Suth Wayfinder IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE DAGGER OF MORTIS! Btw the poor Lando lost his daughter? Thats a stolen fanfiction and it was Han searching for his and Leias younger daughter. Made too much sense, the story groups disgusting bigotry against straight white alphas obviously pointed them towards poor Lando. This book is trash. Stop trying to rationalize this obscene discriminatory garbage.
Mike
Just decanonize the sequels. They are are irredeemable. 3 movies and they range from derivative to terrible. I am frankly amazed Kathleen Kennedy still has a job.
Stevil
Article makes a glaring misstatement. That Palpatine had been working with cloning tech is cannon, and was introduced long before the last movie in the comics. After Palpatine “died” on the Death Star in RotJ his force presence inhabited one of his many clone bodies. He even cloned Luke, which is how Mara Jade was able to work around her force compulsion to kill Luke.
Rich
The secret trilogy was disappointing. Yes they should reboot it the right way considering they throughout everything we new about star wars. But this time get a director who knows and loves it. Fire Kennedy, she is so wrong for star wars, but she probably okay for barbie wars.
Caligula
The first thing they need to do, is get the Star Wars franchise the hell out of Disneys evil corrupt hands. Then have someone without ulterior motives to wright something good. Either a true Star Wars fan, or the original creator, George Lucas.
Crow
Has the author actually read Shadow of the Sith? Because it certainly does not fix even a fraction of the issues in RoTS. If anything it actually causes more problems than it solves
Emily
If your story requires extended material after the fact to make the story make sense…it’s not a very good story. Ans regardless of what they’ve done to try to correct the numerous plotholes in the story, they’re not even trying to address the impact of how they left things. I.e. despite what they want fans to believe, all of the Skywalkers are in fact gone, and did not rise. There really isn’t a way around that that will not ring hollow or show as a cop out.
Bob
Are you kidding me?
She’d kill off the entire Barbie line of products with one movie.
She’s not intelligent enough to write and develop her own heroes, but she is an idiot enough to destroy a well loved, around for a while franchise built by real visionaries.
JD
Hey guys, since the movies that we put out were complete trash, I hope that you read this book that no one will read to explain why our plot was so bad
Sincerely,
A collection of really bad writers
LiberalMenIsAnOxyMoron
Remove Rey – Go Woke Go Broke was why the sequels failed.
Liberal Man
Sure, you seem rational. We should listen to someone who uses “woke” as a pejorative. Because it doesn’t make you look like a fool at all.
Sean Bennett
I don’t know how Disney can take star wars and mess it up so bad. Same with marvel, leave it alone it’s stupid now with too many sidelines and stories just to make a buck. Disney you killed it all. Now bury it.
RORMachine
There’s no “righting” the sequel trilogy. You would have to erase everything post-Lucas. Books, series, movies, everything. Lucas would have to retain control of Star Wars and never sell the property to Disney to begin with. That’s the only way.
Danboy777
Retcon Luke’s miserable Last Jedi future through a Disney+ series with Sebastian Stan. Everything rotten about Star Wars revolves around Johnson’s sabotage of Luke Skywalker’s timeline.
MICHAEL D ABBATICCHIO
amen
Whatever
Tlj sucks butts, yes multiple butts. At the same time.
Dann
Rey is NOT a Skywalker. And having Palatine being alive makes Anakins sacrifice a joke. Scrap 7, 8 and 9 and honor the promise that K. Kennedy made to George Lucas to follow his script. The sequel trilogy was supposed to be about Leia. “Without respect we reject!”
Tyler
Only way they can fix their mistakes is to move forward with the multiverse based around Ashoka or to completely decannonize the sequels.
Annoyed fan
I have 0 interest in Disney’s Star Wars fan fiction. I’m tired of them botching it. Excepting Mandolorean, there is nothing new they have added to the franchise that doesn’t take away from what was good. The sooner they create an all new storyline that doesn’t desecrate the legacy the better.
Annoyed fan
I’m sorry; I made a big mistake and misspoke in my comment. For this to be Disney’s Star Wars fan fiction, they would actually have had to have been a fan.
PhelesDragon
The easiest solution to this is to have the Sequels be a prophetic dream Luke has. We’ve already proven Disney can make younger versions of characters return, just have Snoke’s arrival and Ben’s fall be a prophecy that Luke is trying to prevent from happening. That way the new fans can still say those events happened in a future alternate timeline, but you can also eat your cake by not having them as the “Prime” timeline. Boom, I solved Star Wars.
Keith
My only problem with Force Awakens was killing Han. My only problem with Last Jedi was Rian abandoning everything he was handed on a silver platter by JJ only to go in completely wrong directions and killing Snoke in such a sloppy unbecoming manner. My only issue with Rise was killing Luke after such badassery after making him look like a whiny old man and not letting us in on what Finn had to say to Rey. Clearly he wanted to let her know he was force sensitive. It’s ok Finn, she knows. You most likely wouldn’t have been able to wield the light Saber so skillfully if you weren’t. Same with Rey. She should’ve been Luke’s daughter not Palpatines.
KingParkk
I seriously don’t get this idea that everything must go just as you imagine it should because you’re a fan. I found the sequels completely superb. Just the fact that you find the sequels more palatable now because someone wrote a book with some back story that alleviates you’re anxiety about accepting a new story is ridiculous. An entire swath of canon in the novel genre were thrown out after LucasArts carefully curated it. So what? Star Trek threw out canon by creating a new timeline, DC and Marvel created the multiverse so there is no canon at all. Just enjoy it for what it it…entertainment.
Howie
All of y’all make me laugh. Your continued gnashing of teeth and crying over the Sequel Trilogy is pathetic at best.
The author of this “article” is a joke.
Y’all should just give up Star Wars now because Lucasfilm is going to leave all of you whiney crybabies behind.
Rick
The whole issue is that Disney took Star Wars, threw George Lucas to the curb and created their own Star Wars canon and ignoring the original George Lucas canon. They shouldn’t have done that. If they had kept the George Lucas Star Wars canon and created their story around it then the stories in the sequel would make more sense. They did the wrong thing when they dismissed both George Lucas and the George Lucas Star Wars canon.
MICHAEL D ABBATICCHIO
Disney’s biggest mistake was in killing off beloved characters with abysmal story telling, rather than just writing their own story in a galaxy far far away.
Whatever
“Star wars to pour new energy into righting sequels”
Me: Omg, they’re going to make them non-canon?
“Heres a book we will retcon as soon as it pleases us.”
Me: Gotdayumit
Stephen
I understand that alot would have to be done first, but I would love to see the Yuuzhan Vong wars brought to the big screen.
Al Legory
“You can put lipstick and earrings on a hog and call it Monique, but it’s still a pig.” — Ann Richards —
Jose Canseco
Best bet is to stop making them. As you can see Hollywood is running out of ideas. Instead they are forced to make garbage showing all races, sexual orientations, and PC plot lines. So, how bout you let something die with what dignity it has left, you leeches.
Tony
So, my guess is Lucasfilm will not spend hundreds of millions to create a movie that attempt s to rewrite a previous SW trilogy. Ain’t gonna’ happen. You all watched the previous 9 movies as well as the Disney serieses’z and like it or not, it is what it is. I like watching the “extras” and “behind the scenes” because then you get a really good idea of how much work goes into the production. They give 100% and more folks. They’re very good at their craft so let’s show a little support? I for one enjoy all the movies because they’re great entertainment. Nobody’s perfect and you have a right to be disgruntled, but trying to change anything canon with a new feature likely not gonna work. So, I enjoyed the Kenobi series; looking forward to the next, uh … Can’t think of the name… It eludes me… But also looking to the new “Star Wars” trilogy even though it won’t be a Skywalker saga. Calm down, let it be, and enjoy! Ciao!
1775
Nooooooo more sequel trilogy anything.
Mitchell Melkin
Regardless of criticisms of the Sequel Trilogy, I don’t believe that Disney under Chapek, has shown any inclination to erase the movies, which would be a practical impossibility, in any case.
It seems the thinking is to make the SW tent to be as inclusive and inviting as possible, and not figuratively give the finger to those viewers for whom the Sequels was their first theatrical experience of SW.
And yes, there are many people that actually do like them and the new characters, particularly Kylo/Ben and Rey.
There’s no question that the grosses fell off drastically for TLJ and TROS. However, consider how many of the hardcore fandom likely didn’t even choose to pay to see the latter, even once. So, even though it ‘only’ had receipts of just north of 1 billion, that signifies many folks who did go to the theater, some on a repeated basis, no doubt.
Beorn
Retcon the whole damn thing. Put Dave and Jon in charge and fire Kathleen. Full stop.
Tyler
Sequal trilogy is non canon fan fiction, any book or other form of media that tries to make sense of those movies is a hard look at Disney trying desperately to profit from their failures to understand their communities
Michael Jordan
I just hope Disney can keep their “wokeness” out of it and make a decent movie!
Jerry
Stopped watching as soon as Disney bought the franchise.
J
The key problem of the sequels was that Disney said “Ok the expanded universe is not canon any more” Then proceeded to create the sequels with bastardised (and watered down) Expanded universe content. Now no matter what extra they bring in, the sequels will continue being the worst of the three trilogies.
Andre
When you have a car that is a lemon, best thing to do is scrap it, the more you invest money into it, the more you will be wasting money for nothing.
Start over, Disney is good at that. This time, hire people that know SW (Feloni/Favreau) instead of hiring cheap upcoming Director/writers that know f-all about how SW works.
Chris
No, I’m not reading the book so I can understand the new trilogy. If I MUST read a book to understand the crap you threw on screen, that’s a big friggin clue YOU MADE THE MOVIE WRONG.
Books should expand the universe for those who want to know what else is going on. They should not be required reading to understand the movie.
Roy Rogers Mcfeely
This hasn’t fixed anything, what a waste of an article and my time 2/10
John
You know….I’m 62 years old. ALIVE when Star Wars came….and have been a Huge fan ever since. LOVED the og trilogy, LOVED LOVED the prequels trilogy…and highly enjoyed the sequel trilogy. Not one damn thing wrong with them!!! I get so sick of pundits like yourself and those damn so called fanboys. It was their story to tell and they did it brilliantly. I am also so very tired of being told I shouldn’t like them by the likes of you. If you don’t like it good for you, then write a screenplay, come up with the capital and you tell your story. Articles like this just don’t know why I even bother to read….and I already know what your argument will be.
Joncore
I remember reading that book when I was a kid. The emperor had many clones and Luke had to fight all of them. None of them where the original emp. I think this is a bad idea.. I think making a bad prequel to make a bad sequel is just not a good idea. Of course what every new star wars that comes out is gonna make profit but it’s not gonna be the kind of profit they expect.. recasting Luke Skywalker is a nightmare. If mark is not the main. I don’t care to watch it .
Eric
Well, multiverses are all the rage now. Just reboot the sequel with Ezra Bridger taking out Palpatine on the time line then go from there.
Craig
I wasted valuable money and time on those crap sequels. Now they want me to dish out more time and money for a book that will “fix” what they f-ed up?!?! No! Not falling for it again! You should fix it for everyone FOR FREE first, then we can see about giving you our hard earned dollars. And try harder to not f things up in the future. If you had done it right the first time, you wouldn’t have needed to try to fix episode VIII in episode IX. No excuse for those poorly thought out, written and directed films.
Scott
TLJ is the third best movie in the Skywalker Saga. Period. As for things that should be wiped out of existence, maybe we should start with edgelord fanbois.
Internet Star Wars Expert #284168
All Disney had to do was follow Rian Johnson’s lead in creating something new for Star Wars, and ignore the smelly neckbeard edgelords whining about how the new movies don’t fit their unimaginative headcanon.
Chris Kinney
Sadly, a novel will do nothing for the average movie-going Star Wars fan. Should’ve just made good movies the first time around.
Phillip
Decanonize sequel’s and rewrite. Luke would never have become a bitter old hermit. That’s stupidy. And everyone I know agrees.
Dixie
The focus on Rise of Skywalker completely misses the point. The problem is and always will be The Last Jedi. No amount of extra books or new animated series is going to fix that.
Echo Base
At this point it’s just damage control. The books/games/comics used to be for enhancing the universe, not for what amounts to retconning the corners they painted themselves into with their god awful storytelling. Honestly I don’t even care about those 3 movies anymore, I barely even think about them much less try to come up with BS ways to make them work when they clearly just don’t.
Adam
I am actually currently reading (well listening to the audiobook as I’ve gotten really spoiled on the immersion that Star Wars ones provide through amazing production with licensed sound and score along with great voice talent overall for narration). I must say, while I actually enjoyed IX and still do, this book as I’m listening through is so far providing some real depth and fill-ins to not just events and each characters’ part in them, but a front row view into their thoughts, motivations, etc. Not read or heard of Christopher before, but in sharing his nane as my own first and middle though with a different last name, I’m impressed especially as I’ve sampled A LOT of different writers/storytellers in SW through shows, books, comics, games etc. And to use the overused cliche, The Force is with this one indeed thus far.
Joe Doelker
Maybe it would behoove Disney to use the information on Wookiepedia for SW knowledge instead of coming up with their own. This would alleviate a lot of headaches and hurt butts.
A trilogy explaining the Dark Jedi/Sith origins and the initial war with the Jedi would be entertaining (not a series, SW was never a series type of endeavor, it was more an expanded novel story on the big screen). Include up to episode I, show how the Darth Sidious/Darth Maul partnership originated during the Sith exile.
There’s so much they could do using Wookiepedia and people like Jon Favreau, Mark Hamill, and others who understood Lucas’s story. Stop Disneying everything, think about why P. L. Travers wept and left during the screening of Mary Poppins. Sometimes, going away from what is written and choosing to use one’s own interpretations ruins the masterpiece that already exists.