Yeah, Disney claims inclusiveness, but they are failing miserably at it. I mean sure, the are inclusive of what is politically correct, but not with disabled or those that are larger in stature.
Flights of Passage is one where, even now there is a simple option, have some alternative seat designs. Will be exactly the same experience? No, but would it work for those that can’t handle the seats as designed for whatever reasons? Yes.
And ECVs are only allowed up to a point in the queue.
Tron is problematic before even getting on, as ECVs aren’t allowed in the queue at all and there is NO excuse for designing any queue after about the year 2000 (no counting remodels of existing buildings) in a way that doesn’t allow ECVs from start to finish.
When your weight issue is caused by something medical…be it medication, the illness itself, etc. One of my best friends was always a thin person until she had ovarian surgery when we were in college. After that, she put on a lot of weight. No matter what she did to try to prevent it, it wouldn’t go away. She is extremely overweight till this day and still can’t lose it. Dr told her the surgery most likely disrupted something in the body.
Disney has been a lot better than Universal. Most of Universal’s rides are worse than Disney. I haven’t had problems at either, but have seen more issues at Universal, especially their new coasters and Harry Potter rides.
Some things just can’t be designed for large people or people unable to navigate an attraction que. That’s just the way it is. It’s not done on purpose to exclude or humiliate a person. It is probably related to safety. Safety. This person talked about the issue with her calf not fitting. Why do that to yourself. Ride something else. She discussed two attractions out of an entire park of attractions that are difficult for her. Move on and deal with it. I have had to do this in the past myself. Not every thing in life is possible.
Cast members should be able to precertify overweight people that they are ok before buying ILL and/or waiting in line. Just like they measure kids at the beginning of the line.
Your comment is incredibly inconsiderate. My teen granddaughter was always a big girl. Not fat. Not unhealthy. Just big.born at 10lbs 15 Oz. And kept growing. How do you exclude one like her? Why shouldn’t she enjoy what she loves? Maybe pandora was her goal? She should be included in every.single.thing.
We cannot blame or expect theme parks and entertainment venues.
To cater to those of us at this point in time. We are definitely outnumbered by people of a more normal considered weight. Places like Disney would have to set aside 1 or 2 cars just for large people because those mechanisms of safety are not gonna fit for small children and then expand the next trip to fit for somebody that’s 300 pounds. Try going to the movie theaters and finding a seat that you fit in. Many of us larger people have to fly first class, so we have the largest seat to sit in. Wait until they start asking for weights. When you’re flying on the plane, too many heavy people in the passenger area can offset the weights that are in the cargo area. Just wait, that will probably happen eventually..
Fortunately for aircraft they would prefer mor weight to be in the forward half of plane rather than the rear half to prevent stalling and not being able to pitch nose down.
I heard Tron was almost an exact copy of the ride in Tokyo Disneyland, where Japanese diets make them lighter than Americans. Based on WDW MK Tron limited experience, they noted more americans couldn’t fit on the bikes; and I believe they will likely add some additional non-bike carrages/cars replacing some bikes so the wait will be roughly (closer to) the same. I wonder if compression calf socks just for the FOP ride would work? WDW MK and DL Town halls should have all potential size limiting rides avail in a back room where cast members can eval and certify you are good to go, so you don’t buy ILL and/or wait in line only to get rejected. P.S. Sorry your anxiety and fear did not allow you to enjoy the FOP ride. When it first came out we all thought that was the best WDW (or any) ride! Then ROR, then Guardians, then Tron each topping each other. They should have some seats to accomodate larger people to the 98-99% limit.
I’m a perfect world everyone could ride everything. But it’s not a perfect world. I have “medical” back problems, as do many, many Americans, however I don’t get angry with Disney when they build rides that aren’t safe for people with back problems, nor do I expect them to find a way to modify the ride for my back issues. It’s just life. Similarly, when I took my children when they were little, I didn’t get upset that they weren’t able to ride every ride in the park. (Many rides they were restricted by height, etc.) If all rides were built to cater to everyone, it would be parks full of boat rides. I do agree, they need to provide a way for people to check that they can ride securely and comfortably before joining the queue and/or wasting money on genie+ or ILL. That would, I’d imagine, eliminate the stress and humiliation.
This broke my heart. For me being underweight has always been a problem. But my best friend is grossly overweight. We still have a lot in common but I noticed that I’m her only “skinny” friend. For some reason overweight people feel better hanging with other overweight people! I can kinda understand why. If you want to feel better about yourself hanging out with like bodied people, I understand. It’s a shame though. People should not be judged by something they can’t control. I eat more than my overweight friend!!! It’s not fair to her! I really feel for her but I never talk about it. I wouldn’t know what to say. It might seem like I’m picking on her. And I love her! I don’t care about her weight. I want her to be healthy and happy. It’s sad. I hurt for her.
It’s almost like some people have never heard of a salad…or personnel responsibility. Not talking about the very very small number that truly have a real medical condition that is not their fault or can control, I’m talking about the ones that “think” they have a medical condition but just use it as an excuse to be lazy and not attempt to be minimally responsible for themselves or healthy.
And you’re singling out Disney for not making rides for obese people? That’s all theme parks. Do you go to the state fair and complain the fun house is too narrow? The world caters to regular sized humans, if you’re outside that parameter you deal with it. I was disappointed when I couldn’t ride a couple of the rides with my husband at the time, I went home pissed at myself and lost weight! Now I’m going back and I’m going to have a GREAT TIME!
I think that what Disney should/could/can do is to make an example/sample of the ride vehicle and place it right at the start of the line that leads to the entrance of the ride. There, you can see if you can fit on there or not. They could build future rides knowing that some (not all) people are overweight and can’t fit onto certain ride vehicles because of the weight (wether it’s their stomachs, hips, thighs, calves, etc). They could also build more ride vehicles that have accommodating seats. I’m lucky enough that Disney makes more family friendly rides than Universal does. When I was a teen (now I’m 43)I had corrective back surgery (meaning that I used to walk like the hunch back of nota dame and had surgery to correct my posture). I have about a 14 inch (I believe) scare on my back. The dr. told me that because of the rod in my back I can’t go sky diving, bungee jumping, nor can I go on rides that have inversions (meaning rides that go upside down like Rocking Roller Coaster). It does kinda suck that I can’t go on rides like this. Oh well. It also sucks that not everyone’s metabolism is the same. I wish that I had my brother’s metabolism (he has my mom’s and I have my dad’s) so that I can eat whatever I want, whenever I want and not gain a pound. I don’t. So , I’m trying to watch what I eat. I’ve lost some weight. So, I can understand how people that are over weight may feel when they can’t do certain things because of their weight. it can stink sometimes that you can’t enjoy doing certain things with your friends/family because of your weight. I get it. Sad!!!!! We don’t live in a perfect world. I have to live with the fact that I won’t be able to do/see/go on certain things/experiences. I accept that fact and just move on. That’s live. It’s not meant to be fair. We just have to deal with the cards that we’ve been dealt and move on. Yes, am I a bit sad that I can’t go on certain roller coasters? Yes. Am I a bit upset that I can’t go sky diving? Yes. Think of it this way. There might be people that are skinny that can’t play tennis because they have lung issues. While there are people that are fat that can play tennis since their lungs are perfectly healthy. I wish that there were rides that were more accommodating. That I do wish. But, we don’t live in a perfect world. I have friends that can’t do certain things because of their health issues. Are they upset that they c an’t do certain things? Yes. They don’t dwell on it though. They just accept that there are certain things/experiences in live that they can’t do and accept it. That’s that.
Ok maybe skips 3rds at the buffet, try a salad they can be very tasty and filling…and bro, you seem to have wayyyyy to much time on your hands. You should try putting that energy to good use, like a job or something, or volunteer, yes, volunteer. Do some good.
Comments for I’ve Been to Disney World More Than 25 Times. And as a Plus-Sized Person, I Think I’m Done.
Chris
Yeah, Disney claims inclusiveness, but they are failing miserably at it. I mean sure, the are inclusive of what is politically correct, but not with disabled or those that are larger in stature.
Flights of Passage is one where, even now there is a simple option, have some alternative seat designs. Will be exactly the same experience? No, but would it work for those that can’t handle the seats as designed for whatever reasons? Yes.
And ECVs are only allowed up to a point in the queue.
Tron is problematic before even getting on, as ECVs aren’t allowed in the queue at all and there is NO excuse for designing any queue after about the year 2000 (no counting remodels of existing buildings) in a way that doesn’t allow ECVs from start to finish.
Bill
Just curious, what does “medically” overweight mean?
Marie
When your weight issue is caused by something medical…be it medication, the illness itself, etc. One of my best friends was always a thin person until she had ovarian surgery when we were in college. After that, she put on a lot of weight. No matter what she did to try to prevent it, it wouldn’t go away. She is extremely overweight till this day and still can’t lose it. Dr told her the surgery most likely disrupted something in the body.
Kyra
Disney has been a lot better than Universal. Most of Universal’s rides are worse than Disney. I haven’t had problems at either, but have seen more issues at Universal, especially their new coasters and Harry Potter rides.
Debby
Some things just can’t be designed for large people or people unable to navigate an attraction que. That’s just the way it is. It’s not done on purpose to exclude or humiliate a person. It is probably related to safety. Safety. This person talked about the issue with her calf not fitting. Why do that to yourself. Ride something else. She discussed two attractions out of an entire park of attractions that are difficult for her. Move on and deal with it. I have had to do this in the past myself. Not every thing in life is possible.
faackanders2
Cast members should be able to precertify overweight people that they are ok before buying ILL and/or waiting in line. Just like they measure kids at the beginning of the line.
Bob
I know FOP has a test seat outside of the attraction. Not being able to ride sucks, but they give riders an opportunity to check first.
Suzanne
Yes. In a very public area. Humiliating to a kid. Wasted money on a test seat instead of adding an accommodating one on ride.
Suzanne
Your comment is incredibly inconsiderate. My teen granddaughter was always a big girl. Not fat. Not unhealthy. Just big.born at 10lbs 15 Oz. And kept growing. How do you exclude one like her? Why shouldn’t she enjoy what she loves? Maybe pandora was her goal? She should be included in every.single.thing.
Sue
We cannot blame or expect theme parks and entertainment venues.
To cater to those of us at this point in time. We are definitely outnumbered by people of a more normal considered weight. Places like Disney would have to set aside 1 or 2 cars just for large people because those mechanisms of safety are not gonna fit for small children and then expand the next trip to fit for somebody that’s 300 pounds. Try going to the movie theaters and finding a seat that you fit in. Many of us larger people have to fly first class, so we have the largest seat to sit in. Wait until they start asking for weights. When you’re flying on the plane, too many heavy people in the passenger area can offset the weights that are in the cargo area. Just wait, that will probably happen eventually..
faackanders2
Fortunately for aircraft they would prefer mor weight to be in the forward half of plane rather than the rear half to prevent stalling and not being able to pitch nose down.
faackanders2
I heard Tron was almost an exact copy of the ride in Tokyo Disneyland, where Japanese diets make them lighter than Americans. Based on WDW MK Tron limited experience, they noted more americans couldn’t fit on the bikes; and I believe they will likely add some additional non-bike carrages/cars replacing some bikes so the wait will be roughly (closer to) the same. I wonder if compression calf socks just for the FOP ride would work? WDW MK and DL Town halls should have all potential size limiting rides avail in a back room where cast members can eval and certify you are good to go, so you don’t buy ILL and/or wait in line only to get rejected. P.S. Sorry your anxiety and fear did not allow you to enjoy the FOP ride. When it first came out we all thought that was the best WDW (or any) ride! Then ROR, then Guardians, then Tron each topping each other. They should have some seats to accomodate larger people to the 98-99% limit.
Sarah
I’m a perfect world everyone could ride everything. But it’s not a perfect world. I have “medical” back problems, as do many, many Americans, however I don’t get angry with Disney when they build rides that aren’t safe for people with back problems, nor do I expect them to find a way to modify the ride for my back issues. It’s just life. Similarly, when I took my children when they were little, I didn’t get upset that they weren’t able to ride every ride in the park. (Many rides they were restricted by height, etc.) If all rides were built to cater to everyone, it would be parks full of boat rides. I do agree, they need to provide a way for people to check that they can ride securely and comfortably before joining the queue and/or wasting money on genie+ or ILL. That would, I’d imagine, eliminate the stress and humiliation.
LegoGuru2000
Amen. Too many Americans are actually spoiled and narcissistic believing that the world must change or bend itself to accommodate them.
Rayeann Kemp
This broke my heart. For me being underweight has always been a problem. But my best friend is grossly overweight. We still have a lot in common but I noticed that I’m her only “skinny” friend. For some reason overweight people feel better hanging with other overweight people! I can kinda understand why. If you want to feel better about yourself hanging out with like bodied people, I understand. It’s a shame though. People should not be judged by something they can’t control. I eat more than my overweight friend!!! It’s not fair to her! I really feel for her but I never talk about it. I wouldn’t know what to say. It might seem like I’m picking on her. And I love her! I don’t care about her weight. I want her to be healthy and happy. It’s sad. I hurt for her.
Kyle
It’s almost like some people have never heard of a salad…or personnel responsibility. Not talking about the very very small number that truly have a real medical condition that is not their fault or can control, I’m talking about the ones that “think” they have a medical condition but just use it as an excuse to be lazy and not attempt to be minimally responsible for themselves or healthy.
K
BMI (Body mass index) medically overweight according to weight/height ratio
M
And you’re singling out Disney for not making rides for obese people? That’s all theme parks. Do you go to the state fair and complain the fun house is too narrow? The world caters to regular sized humans, if you’re outside that parameter you deal with it. I was disappointed when I couldn’t ride a couple of the rides with my husband at the time, I went home pissed at myself and lost weight! Now I’m going back and I’m going to have a GREAT TIME!
Mary
In a perfect world everything would be perfect for everyone. Unfortunately it is not a perfect world.
Zilma A Osle
I think that what Disney should/could/can do is to make an example/sample of the ride vehicle and place it right at the start of the line that leads to the entrance of the ride. There, you can see if you can fit on there or not. They could build future rides knowing that some (not all) people are overweight and can’t fit onto certain ride vehicles because of the weight (wether it’s their stomachs, hips, thighs, calves, etc). They could also build more ride vehicles that have accommodating seats. I’m lucky enough that Disney makes more family friendly rides than Universal does. When I was a teen (now I’m 43)I had corrective back surgery (meaning that I used to walk like the hunch back of nota dame and had surgery to correct my posture). I have about a 14 inch (I believe) scare on my back. The dr. told me that because of the rod in my back I can’t go sky diving, bungee jumping, nor can I go on rides that have inversions (meaning rides that go upside down like Rocking Roller Coaster). It does kinda suck that I can’t go on rides like this. Oh well. It also sucks that not everyone’s metabolism is the same. I wish that I had my brother’s metabolism (he has my mom’s and I have my dad’s) so that I can eat whatever I want, whenever I want and not gain a pound. I don’t. So , I’m trying to watch what I eat. I’ve lost some weight. So, I can understand how people that are over weight may feel when they can’t do certain things because of their weight. it can stink sometimes that you can’t enjoy doing certain things with your friends/family because of your weight. I get it. Sad!!!!! We don’t live in a perfect world. I have to live with the fact that I won’t be able to do/see/go on certain things/experiences. I accept that fact and just move on. That’s live. It’s not meant to be fair. We just have to deal with the cards that we’ve been dealt and move on. Yes, am I a bit sad that I can’t go on certain roller coasters? Yes. Am I a bit upset that I can’t go sky diving? Yes. Think of it this way. There might be people that are skinny that can’t play tennis because they have lung issues. While there are people that are fat that can play tennis since their lungs are perfectly healthy. I wish that there were rides that were more accommodating. That I do wish. But, we don’t live in a perfect world. I have friends that can’t do certain things because of their health issues. Are they upset that they c an’t do certain things? Yes. They don’t dwell on it though. They just accept that there are certain things/experiences in live that they can’t do and accept it. That’s that.
Bart
Ok maybe skips 3rds at the buffet, try a salad they can be very tasty and filling…and bro, you seem to have wayyyyy to much time on your hands. You should try putting that energy to good use, like a job or something, or volunteer, yes, volunteer. Do some good.
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