The people who look for the “Underlying” meanings or connections to supposed outlandish history are mental midgets.
Splash Moutain is our history and will always be our history. “Those iwho fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.
I find this controversy ludicrous.
If I offended you, good.
This follows giving awards for participation.
There are loosers and winners. It is life.
I’m already familiar with the history of salt mines and slavery, and there’s no hypocrisy here other than the hypocrisy you’re trying to manufacture by grasping at straws. Anyone who’s a critical thinker can look at this attraction in the context of history and see a successful woman who appropriated a business that, in some parts of the world, had a racist history and then transformed it into a black-owned, female-owned business. That’s assuming that theme park guests even care enough to focus on any adjacent history, as most people will just experience a ride based on The Princess and the Frog.
appropriated – you mean stole? But that’s all ok because she was a strong black female- so she gets a pass. Situational ethics much. Yeah its a cartoon (a crappy one at that) but it is typical of Disney’s circling of the drain (toilet at that) Ruining the most popular attraction, destroying a world wide corporation and filling the culture with woke liberal clap trap is all ok in your tiny, minuscule, miniature size, organ you call your brain.
I’ll take a minuscule brain over a minuscule heart that believes in “situational ethics” versus just plain ethics. I’ll also take woke over weird any day. Using the original and proper definition of the word, I’m proudly woke, because knowledge and compassion are virtues, not insults.
Okay, I guess I’ll play the role of Google today and do your homework for ya. The original meaning of woke was simply having a more inclusive mindset that doesn’t ostracize. It means having broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights. If you currently believe, for example, that woke is a movement designed to push a radical agenda and indoctrinate young children into becoming deviants, then you’ve latched onto a twisted definition perpetuated by partisan media outlets. Do your research and be a critical thinker. Don’t just blindly accept a definition you see posted on social media, or a thread like this one. In fact, I even encourage you to take my own explanation with a grain of salt and investigate on your own. Too many people read something in a meme and automatically accept it as fact, especially if it fits their preexisting worldview. Don’t be that type of person.
The original definition of woke meant simply having a more inclusive mindset that doesn’t ostracize. It means having broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights.
It means having a more inclusive mindset, instead of ostracizing specific members of society based on race or lifestyle. But don’t take my word for it. I encourage you to be a critical thinker and do your own research. Too many people accept whatever they see in a meme on social media, or even a thread like this one. Don’t be one of those people.
I cared, and I focused on the history of the ride when it was Splash Mountain. Far from being racist, the story of Brer Rabbit was a tale based on African folklore. It’s part of the oral tradition of Africa and was deemed important enough to the slaves cultural heritage that they ensured the story was passed down through the generations. It
was an important link to to their past and their homeland. The stars of the film, on which Splash Mountain was based, the”Song of the South”, were both remarkable people. James Baskett was the first African American man to be awarded an oscar and Hattie McDaniel was the first African American to actually win an oscar, which was awarded for her truly magnificent role in “Gone with the Wind”. Disney already had a ride that celebrated African American culture and people. The story showcased the remarkable resilience and bravery of men, women and children who, through oral history telling, were determined to keep a part of their African culture alive, despite being torn from their homeland, subjugated and enslaved. It
showcased the talent of two black trailblazers in entertainment.
Who despite endemic racism rose to the very top of their profession. I would suggest that celebrating real African history and acknowledging the remarkable achievements of two actual African American actors, both oscar winners, should have taken precedence over lauding a fictional cartoon character invented by an overwhelmingly white company. Most people were unaware of the history of Brer Rabbit or of the importance of James Baskett and Hattie McDaniel, to black history. Disney should have used the ride to pay tribute to the real African origins of Brer Rabbit and the outstanding actors, who broke barriers in the field of entertainment. I think eradicating real African history and real African American actors, to replace them with a entirely fictitious “token” black Disney princess, is not progress, rather one of the most insidious cases of corporate racism that I have ever witnessed.
Splash Mountain was changed for black empowerment & female empowerment?! And yet, the black female was shot down from taking a leading role. Oops…wrong black female.
Getting off politics, isn’t Br’er Rabbit a story told by black people about a a symbolic character outsmarting those who would capture him as a lesser being? This, in turn, empowers that character. Too bad it wasn’t about a black person outsmarting slave-traders. Yup. LEARN HISTORY, PEOPLE! Why do you think that story was told by black slaves in America?!?
And how about that drop…that no longer exists? The reason Splash Mountain was a big…well…SPLASH! And now it’s gone.
I’ll be at Disney World in the second half of February. While the rest of that area (Frontier Land) is closed, Disney is keeping Tiana’s ride open. From what I hear, it’s just like those other kids’ rides (based on a Disney film) — that doesn’t have much action/adventure (other than the story you’re watching from that slow-moving transport you’re sitting on).
Reskinning it? Fine. However, I think turning a “white-water rapids” ride into a “lazy river” ride might not have been Disney’s best move.
“Drop that no longer exists”? Where, pray tell, are you getting your “facts”? I recommend avoiding those sources in future. You’re making it very easy to discount your perspective on anything related to this topic when you claim with laughable confidence that a structural element of an attraction is currently gone even as footage of its existence is easily found on YouTube. LOL
“And how about that drop…that no longer exists? The reason Splash Mountain was a big…well…SPLASH! And now it’s gone.”
“I’ll be at Disney World in the second half of February. While the rest of that area (Frontier Land) is closed, Disney is keeping Tiana’s ride open. From what I hear, it’s just like those other kids’ rides (based on a Disney film) — that doesn’t have much action/adventure (other than the story you’re watching from that slow-moving transport you’re sitting on).”
Someone sent me a video of them checking out the Tiana ride. At least it’s the same track. The drop is still there. Not much of a splash from it, though. The ride isn’t epic — as much as just like any other kids’ rides there. I thought the masturbating bunny was odd, though.
Okay. So that rabbit was rubbing a long hard…um…license plate? He seemed really happy stroking that thing!
So you admit to lacking firsthand news and all your info is based on someone else’s questionably edited video account of the ride – i.e., the video equivalent of an “op ed.” That explains a lot.
My problem with this overhaul and really every ride project Disney has done since Bob Iger has been CEO is that they’re underwhelming. Tiana’s Bayou Adventure has less animatronics, eliminated the “scary” elements, and used TV screens as way a cheap way to fill space. The ride seems empty and bland in addition to the huge thematic problem: Louisiana and swampy bayous don’t have mountains. It just doesn’t fit.
The article states that “supporters applaud Disney’s commitment to cultural sensitivity and inclusivity.”
What’s inclusive about cancelling one of the most beloved Black actors and one of the most iconic Disney movies in history? That’s stupidity, not sensitivity, not to mention utter ignorance of the actual historical context of “Song of the South” on the part of activists who clearly don’t know the setting of the movie itself. Disney lost its spine.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with creating a Tiana-themed attraction. Killing Uncle Remus wasn’t necessary in doing so.
If Uncle Remus was cancelled or “killed,” then how are you able to still talk about him right now? Apparently the historical context did not cease to exist, because abstract things like history work like that. And by the way, if we’re being thoroughly honest, Uncle Remus was “killed” by Disney when they created Splash Mountain, not Tiana. He was nowhere to be found in Splash Mountain. In fact, he was replaced by a frog.
“What’s inclusive about cancelling one of the most beloved Black actors and one of the most iconic Disney movies in history? That’s stupidity, not sensitivity, not to mention utter ignorance of the actual historical context of “Song of the South” on the part of activists who clearly don’t know the setting of the movie itself. Disney lost its spine.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with creating a Tiana-themed attraction. Killing Uncle Remus wasn’t necessary in doing so.”
I agree 💯%! If Disney’s new ideas mean removing white people from their films/series… If Disney’s new ideas mean males are only minor roles (“that could get cut”)… If Disney’s new ideas mean blaming fans for not liking the direction they’re taking with their films/series…
…And this all started when they decided that black history should be removed from Disney.
Of course, NOW, they’re removing American history from Disney, as well.
Comments for Disney Makes Drastic Changes to Tiana’s Bayou Adventure After Fan Backlash
M
Nothing can save this train wreck. Worst re-theme in Disney history.
Spank You Very Much
Nah, I’m pretty sure the changeover from Alien Encounter to Stitch’s Great Escape earns that distinction.
Wheater
The people who look for the “Underlying” meanings or connections to supposed outlandish history are mental midgets.
Splash Moutain is our history and will always be our history. “Those iwho fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.
I find this controversy ludicrous.
If I offended you, good.
This follows giving awards for participation.
There are loosers and winners. It is life.
Joan Bonsky
Love beautiful scenes in splash mountain leave it aline and just build extention or new ride would be more beneficial
Christi
Its so hilarious to me people don’t see the hypocrisy here. Look up the history of salt mines and slavery. You all got duped.
Aunt Polly
I’m already familiar with the history of salt mines and slavery, and there’s no hypocrisy here other than the hypocrisy you’re trying to manufacture by grasping at straws. Anyone who’s a critical thinker can look at this attraction in the context of history and see a successful woman who appropriated a business that, in some parts of the world, had a racist history and then transformed it into a black-owned, female-owned business. That’s assuming that theme park guests even care enough to focus on any adjacent history, as most people will just experience a ride based on The Princess and the Frog.
Tina
Wooah someone needs more drugs…or needs to lay off.
Aunt Polly
I agree, but I didn’t feel it was appropriate to tell Christi that.
walt
appropriated – you mean stole? But that’s all ok because she was a strong black female- so she gets a pass. Situational ethics much. Yeah its a cartoon (a crappy one at that) but it is typical of Disney’s circling of the drain (toilet at that) Ruining the most popular attraction, destroying a world wide corporation and filling the culture with woke liberal clap trap is all ok in your tiny, minuscule, miniature size, organ you call your brain.
Aunt Polly
I’ll take a minuscule brain over a minuscule heart that believes in “situational ethics” versus just plain ethics. I’ll also take woke over weird any day. Using the original and proper definition of the word, I’m proudly woke, because knowledge and compassion are virtues, not insults.
Uncle Buck
Please, tell us the original and proper definition of “woke,” we are bi-curious.
Aunty Polly
Okay, I guess I’ll play the role of Google today and do your homework for ya. The original meaning of woke was simply having a more inclusive mindset that doesn’t ostracize. It means having broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights. If you currently believe, for example, that woke is a movement designed to push a radical agenda and indoctrinate young children into becoming deviants, then you’ve latched onto a twisted definition perpetuated by partisan media outlets. Do your research and be a critical thinker. Don’t just blindly accept a definition you see posted on social media, or a thread like this one. In fact, I even encourage you to take my own explanation with a grain of salt and investigate on your own. Too many people read something in a meme and automatically accept it as fact, especially if it fits their preexisting worldview. Don’t be that type of person.
Aunty Polly
Okay, I guess I’ll play the role of Google today and do your homework for ya.
Aunty Polly
The original definition of woke meant simply having a more inclusive mindset that doesn’t ostracize. It means having broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights.
Aunty Polly
It means having a more inclusive mindset, instead of ostracizing specific members of society based on race or lifestyle. But don’t take my word for it. I encourage you to be a critical thinker and do your own research. Too many people accept whatever they see in a meme on social media, or even a thread like this one. Don’t be one of those people.
jtmartin
Some things & people don’t like change.
Some people just cannot stand change and moving
forward.
Katie
Yeah that’s it Sherlock 😂
B Smith
I cared, and I focused on the history of the ride when it was Splash Mountain. Far from being racist, the story of Brer Rabbit was a tale based on African folklore. It’s part of the oral tradition of Africa and was deemed important enough to the slaves cultural heritage that they ensured the story was passed down through the generations. It
was an important link to to their past and their homeland. The stars of the film, on which Splash Mountain was based, the”Song of the South”, were both remarkable people. James Baskett was the first African American man to be awarded an oscar and Hattie McDaniel was the first African American to actually win an oscar, which was awarded for her truly magnificent role in “Gone with the Wind”. Disney already had a ride that celebrated African American culture and people. The story showcased the remarkable resilience and bravery of men, women and children who, through oral history telling, were determined to keep a part of their African culture alive, despite being torn from their homeland, subjugated and enslaved. It
showcased the talent of two black trailblazers in entertainment.
Who despite endemic racism rose to the very top of their profession. I would suggest that celebrating real African history and acknowledging the remarkable achievements of two actual African American actors, both oscar winners, should have taken precedence over lauding a fictional cartoon character invented by an overwhelmingly white company. Most people were unaware of the history of Brer Rabbit or of the importance of James Baskett and Hattie McDaniel, to black history. Disney should have used the ride to pay tribute to the real African origins of Brer Rabbit and the outstanding actors, who broke barriers in the field of entertainment. I think eradicating real African history and real African American actors, to replace them with a entirely fictitious “token” black Disney princess, is not progress, rather one of the most insidious cases of corporate racism that I have ever witnessed.
Spank You Very Much
So what you really care about is selective history. No mention of Joel Chandler Harris at all. Enjoy your cherrypicking, friend!
GregRZ
Yeah, I go to Disney to look at adjacent history and to feel good about an animated character supposedly being a business owner. Borrrrring.
Danny O.
Splash Mountain was changed for black empowerment & female empowerment?! And yet, the black female was shot down from taking a leading role. Oops…wrong black female.
Getting off politics, isn’t Br’er Rabbit a story told by black people about a a symbolic character outsmarting those who would capture him as a lesser being? This, in turn, empowers that character. Too bad it wasn’t about a black person outsmarting slave-traders. Yup. LEARN HISTORY, PEOPLE! Why do you think that story was told by black slaves in America?!?
And how about that drop…that no longer exists? The reason Splash Mountain was a big…well…SPLASH! And now it’s gone.
I’ll be at Disney World in the second half of February. While the rest of that area (Frontier Land) is closed, Disney is keeping Tiana’s ride open. From what I hear, it’s just like those other kids’ rides (based on a Disney film) — that doesn’t have much action/adventure (other than the story you’re watching from that slow-moving transport you’re sitting on).
Reskinning it? Fine. However, I think turning a “white-water rapids” ride into a “lazy river” ride might not have been Disney’s best move.
Wendell
“Drop that no longer exists”? Where, pray tell, are you getting your “facts”? I recommend avoiding those sources in future. You’re making it very easy to discount your perspective on anything related to this topic when you claim with laughable confidence that a structural element of an attraction is currently gone even as footage of its existence is easily found on YouTube. LOL
Cuyo
Uhh….. the drop still exists, in both attractions.
Danny O.
“And how about that drop…that no longer exists? The reason Splash Mountain was a big…well…SPLASH! And now it’s gone.”
“I’ll be at Disney World in the second half of February. While the rest of that area (Frontier Land) is closed, Disney is keeping Tiana’s ride open. From what I hear, it’s just like those other kids’ rides (based on a Disney film) — that doesn’t have much action/adventure (other than the story you’re watching from that slow-moving transport you’re sitting on).”
Someone sent me a video of them checking out the Tiana ride. At least it’s the same track. The drop is still there. Not much of a splash from it, though. The ride isn’t epic — as much as just like any other kids’ rides there. I thought the masturbating bunny was odd, though.
Okay. So that rabbit was rubbing a long hard…um…license plate? He seemed really happy stroking that thing!
Spank You Very Much
So you admit to lacking firsthand news and all your info is based on someone else’s questionably edited video account of the ride – i.e., the video equivalent of an “op ed.” That explains a lot.
PF Smith
My problem with this overhaul and really every ride project Disney has done since Bob Iger has been CEO is that they’re underwhelming. Tiana’s Bayou Adventure has less animatronics, eliminated the “scary” elements, and used TV screens as way a cheap way to fill space. The ride seems empty and bland in addition to the huge thematic problem: Louisiana and swampy bayous don’t have mountains. It just doesn’t fit.
Dana Galiano
This ride is a nitemare. It’s never open and when it is finally opened it’s restricted.
So sad to see !
#karma #dontfixsomethingthatisnotbroken
TomW
The article states that “supporters applaud Disney’s commitment to cultural sensitivity and inclusivity.”
What’s inclusive about cancelling one of the most beloved Black actors and one of the most iconic Disney movies in history? That’s stupidity, not sensitivity, not to mention utter ignorance of the actual historical context of “Song of the South” on the part of activists who clearly don’t know the setting of the movie itself. Disney lost its spine.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with creating a Tiana-themed attraction. Killing Uncle Remus wasn’t necessary in doing so.
Aunty Polly
If Uncle Remus was cancelled or “killed,” then how are you able to still talk about him right now? Apparently the historical context did not cease to exist, because abstract things like history work like that. And by the way, if we’re being thoroughly honest, Uncle Remus was “killed” by Disney when they created Splash Mountain, not Tiana. He was nowhere to be found in Splash Mountain. In fact, he was replaced by a frog.
Danny O.
“What’s inclusive about cancelling one of the most beloved Black actors and one of the most iconic Disney movies in history? That’s stupidity, not sensitivity, not to mention utter ignorance of the actual historical context of “Song of the South” on the part of activists who clearly don’t know the setting of the movie itself. Disney lost its spine.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with creating a Tiana-themed attraction. Killing Uncle Remus wasn’t necessary in doing so.”
I agree 💯%! If Disney’s new ideas mean removing white people from their films/series… If Disney’s new ideas mean males are only minor roles (“that could get cut”)… If Disney’s new ideas mean blaming fans for not liking the direction they’re taking with their films/series…
…And this all started when they decided that black history should be removed from Disney.
Of course, NOW, they’re removing American history from Disney, as well.
Tony
Hit them where it hurts. Go to universal studios instead!
Danny O.
With the loss of ADA and all those increases of expenses, people are already doing that.
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