We have no problem with a woman directing a Star Wars show. We have a problem, and rightfully so, with that director giving us lesbian space witches impregnated by the force!
The Acolyte is terrible regardless of if it was written by a man or a woman. Master Sol was literally right there in front if Qmir, knew that he was directly involved in the murder of two Jedi Masters, and just let him go because the script needed him to.
Where is the outrage that it was “helmed by a woman”?
“Outrage” is expected for any Star Wars show. Excluding Andor none of them have been even average quality.
Was The Mandalorian helmed by a woman? The Book of Boba Fett? Obi-Wan Kenobi? Ahsoka? Why are they all terrible too?
“Kathleen Kennedy ruffled some feathers just for pointing this out and openly discussing the “male-dominated” fanbase’s typical reactions to female and POC protagonists”
I wonder why. Maybe because it’s a misrepresentation of the people and their point. So women just love their awful characters? Mando is a trash character, Grogu is trash, Luke Skinwalker, Thrawn is worthless, the Kenobi show even made Kenobi bad. Is it because of the actors? Why would it be?
Finn was the favorite character in the sequels for most of the fanbase, but any potential the character had was entirely wasted.
I guess I’m not allowed to dislike any of the characters because I’m not a male?
Lucy was most people’s favorite part of the Fallout show. She’s one of the only things I liked about it. Where is this hatred of women and POC in well written media?
How is it proven correct by disparity in critic score and audience score? Critics almost always overrate garbage. The worse The Boys got, the higher critic score, the lower audience score. How is that a link to whatever Kathleen Kennedy said about toxic men hating women? If I were to go review the show now, it certainly wouldn’t even be 5/10. I could list you hundreds of reasons as to why. Throwing in the word “essentially” doesn’t help you, you have no evidence that there’s any such link. By your logic any episode of another show even directed by a woman should have a lower audience score. Bryce Dallas Howard’s episode of The Book of Boba Fett is the only one that was reviewed favorably, despite her Mandalorian episodes being terrible. Is there only a link when it confirms your bias?
What even is review bombing at this point? It has a 14% audience score right now, that means that 14% of people thought it was a 5/10 or better? Does that not sound reasonable? I consider it better than any of the other shows except Andor and that’s still going to only be a 3/10 for me. If anyone considers it a 5/10 or higher it must have really resonated with them, or they can’t accurately assess media. Which of course they can’t, because Fallout is probably a 3/10 too, but people loved it.
It’s kind of sad that the actor had to lie to friends and family when the show made no attempt to. The only reason you could not expect it to be him would be that it would be too obvious and in better media, you shouldn’t expect the writing to be so poor as to allow it. Especially after his interaction with Sol, with the ability to mindread presented within the show, the claim that the helmet shields it, the helmet being removed, the fact that he is complicit in the murders of Jedi Masters and allowed to go free. But with Star Wars now, you can always expect them to write nonsense, so how could you not know? He is by no means “under the radar”, yeah the goofy clumsy guy that knows too much and is the only other guy we’ve seen, yep definitely not him.
The lightsaber choreography is atrocious. Swinging at air, kicking when they could kill. “He gets in your head” – doesn’t.
Obscured by dark and trees. Characters not existing until they need to. Disappearing when they could win. Massively telegraphing anything, swinging at the sabers, overswinging leaving themselves exposed. Inconsistent use of abilities. Jedi Knights proving themselves completely worthless despite training, the Padawan arbitrarily being better than them because she’s a named character, despite having no training. Because the writer described the others as redshirts.
Yes, I’m sure the problem is (toxic) fans just hate “women and POC”
The only defense they can muster.
Where is the outrage that it was “helmed by a woman”?
“Outrage” is expected for any Star Wars show. Excluding Andor none of them have been even average quality.
Was The Mandalorian helmed by a woman? The Book of Boba Fett? Obi-Wan Kenobi? Ahsoka? Why are they all terrible too?
“Kathleen Kennedy ruffled some feathers just for pointing this out and openly discussing the “male-dominated” fanbase’s typical reactions to female and POC protagonists”
I wonder why. Maybe because it’s a misrepresentation of the people and their point. So women just love their awful characters? Mando is a trash character, Grogu is trash, Luke Skinwalker, Thrawn is worthless, the Kenobi show even made Kenobi bad. Is it because of the actors? Why would it be?
Finn was the favorite character in the sequels for most of the fanbase, but any potential the character had was entirely wasted.
I guess I’m not allowed to dislike any of the characters because I’m not a male?
Lucy was most people’s favorite part of the Fallout show. She’s one of the only things I liked about it. Where is this hatred of women and POC in well written media?
How is it proven correct by disparity in critic score and audience score? Critics almost always overrate garbage. The worse The Boys got, the higher critic score, the lower audience score. How is that a link to whatever Kathleen Kennedy said about toxic men hating women? If I were to go review the show now, it certainly wouldn’t even be 5/10. I could list you hundreds of reasons as to why. Throwing in the word “essentially” doesn’t help you, you have no evidence that there’s any such link. By your logic any episode of another show even directed by a woman should have a lower audience score. Bryce Dallas Howard’s episode of The Book of Boba Fett is the only one that was reviewed favorably, despite her Mandalorian episodes being terrible. Is there only a link when it confirms your bias?
What even is review bombing at this point? It has a 14% audience score right now, that means that 14% of people thought it was a 5/10 or better? Does that not sound reasonable? I consider it better than any of the other shows except Andor and that’s still going to only be a 3/10 for me. If anyone considers it a 5/10 or higher it must have really resonated with them, or they can’t accurately assess media. Which of course they can’t, because Fallout is probably a 3/10 too, but people loved it.
It’s kind of sad that the actor had to lie to friends and family when the show made no attempt to. The only reason you could not expect it to be him would be that it would be too obvious and in better media, you shouldn’t expect the writing to be so poor as to allow it. Especially after his interaction with Sol, with the ability to mindread presented within the show, the claim that the helmet shields it, the helmet being removed, the fact that he is complicit in the murders of Jedi Masters and allowed to go free. But with Star Wars now, you can always expect them to write nonsense, so how could you not know? He is by no means “under the radar”, yeah the goofy clumsy guy that knows too much and is the only other guy we’ve seen, yep definitely not him.
How is it proven correct by disparity in critic score and audience score? Critics almost always overrate bad shows. The worse The Boys got, the higher critic score, the lower audience score. How is that a link to whatever Kathleen Kennedy said about toxic men hating women? If I were to go review the show now, it certainly wouldn’t even be 5/10. I could list you hundreds of reasons as to why. Throwing in the word “essentially” doesn’t help you, you have no evidence that there’s any such link. By your logic any episode of another show even directed by a woman should have a lower audience score. Bryce Dallas Howard’s episode of The Book of Boba Fett is the only one that was reviewed favorably, despite her Mandalorian episodes being terrible. Is there only a link when it confirms your bias?
What even is review bombing at this point? It has a 14% audience score right now, that means that 14% of people thought it was a 5/10 or better? Does that not sound reasonable? I consider it better than any of the other shows except Andor and that’s still going to only be a 3/10 for me. If anyone considers it a 5/10 or higher it must have really resonated with them, or they can’t accurately assess media. Which of course they can’t, because Fallout is probably a 3/10 too, but people loved it.
It’s kind of sad that the actor had to lie to friends and family when the show made no attempt to. The only reason you could not expect it to be him would be that it would be too obvious and in better media, you shouldn’t expect the writing to be so poor as to allow it. Especially after his interaction with Sol, with the ability to mindread presented within the show, the claim that the helmet shields it, the helmet being removed, the fact that he is complicit in the murders of Jedi Masters and allowed to go free. But with Star Wars now, you can always expect them to write nonsense, so how could you not know? He is by no means “under the radar”, yeah the goofy clumsy guy that knows too much and is the only other guy we’ve seen, yep definitely not him.
The lightsaber choreography is atrocious. Swinging at air, kicking when they could kill. “He gets in your head” – doesn’t.
Obscured by dark and trees. Characters not existing until they need to. Disappearing when they could win. Massively telegraphing anything, swinging at the sabers, overswinging leaving themselves exposed. Inconsistent use of abilities. Jedi Knights proving themselves completely worthless despite training, the Padawan arbitrarily being better than them because she’s a named character, despite having no training. Because the writer described the others as redshirts.
Yes, I’m sure the problem is (toxic) fans just hate “women and POC”
The only defense they can muster.
The lightsaber choreography is atrocious. Swinging at air, kicking when they could kill. “He gets in your head” – doesn’t.
Obscured by dark and trees. Characters not existing until they need to. Disappearing when they could win. Massively telegraphing anything, swinging at the sabers, overswinging leaving themselves exposed. Inconsistent use of abilities.
Jedi Knights proving themselves completely worthless despite training, the Padawan arbitrarily being better than them because she’s a named character, despite having no training. Because the writer described the others as redshirts.
I’m sure the problem is toxic fans just hate women and POC.
The only defense they can muster.
“Finn was the favorite character in the sequels for most of the fanbase, but any potential the character had was entirely wasted.”
-Finn was wasted? Finn was never supposed to be a lead character. The SWU films have always been about Skywalker vs. Palpatine. That’s not Finn. He was never supposed to be anything than the token black guy/black best friend/comic relief. It was RJ who beefed up his role in TLJ. There was really nothing for him to do once they let Poe live. Finn was never a commanding officer, he never even got rank as a ST. He served no purpose in TFA except to have someone for Rey to talk to. As for him being wasted, I don’t know where you got that from. Finn went from a side character in TFA to someone who led the charge and took down the main ship in TROS.
Finn was never supposed to be a main character? He fights Kylo in the culmination of TFA.
It was Poe that was supposed to be killed off in the crash, not Finn. Finn, Rey and Kylo were the three main characters of TFA going into TLJ. He was the only one with anything nearing a character arc in TFA, mirroring Han Solo’s in A New Hope.
“He was never a commanding officer, he never even got rank as a ST”
?
What has that got to do with anything at all?
TFA was absolutely awful, I’m not suggesting anyone was a great character, but it’s difficult not to be a better character than Rey. Could he not have been more than what you describe him as?
“side character in TFA to someone who led the charge and took down the main ship in TROS.”
It really seems to only ever be events that you people notice. Never writing. Never character.
“The SWU films have always been about Skywalker vs. Palpatine.”
That’s entirely arbitrary.
IV isn’t. V isn’t.
TFA wasn’t. TLJ wasn’t.
Why would anyone expect the sequels to be about Palpatine, when Palpatine died in Jedi?
“That’s not Finn.”
That’s not Solo, Qui-Gon or Kenobi either. They got to be characters, why didn’t Finn? How did you even think that supported your argument?
What even is review bombing at this point? It has a 14% audience score right now, that means that 14% of people thought it was a 5/10 or better? Does that not sound reasonable? I consider it better than any of the other shows except Andor and that’s still going to only be a 3/10 for me. If anyone considers it a 5/10 or higher it must have really resonated with them, or they can’t accurately assess media. Which of course they can’t, because Fallout is probably a 3/10 too, but people loved it.
The lightsaber choreography is atrocious. Swinging at air, kicking when they could kill. “He gets in your head” – doesn’t.
Obscured by dark and trees. Characters not existing until they need to. Disappearing when they could win. Massively telegraphing anything, swinging at the sabers, overswinging leaving themselves exposed. Inconsistent use of abilities.
@Joe
Is that what you’d recommend for people that don’t like poor writing? Was it on the basis that my response was lengthy?
If so, why don’t you suggest that to the person that wrote the original article misrepresenting fans and defending Harvey Weinstein’s assistant of all people? He might be stupid, but doesn’t need serious drugs just because his opinion differs. The author of the article praised cultural discussion.
Comments for Lucasfilm Star Admits He’s Been Lying to ‘Star Wars’ Fans for Years, Relieved To Stop
Xilef
We have no problem with a woman directing a Star Wars show. We have a problem, and rightfully so, with that director giving us lesbian space witches impregnated by the force!
Matt
Author is obviously defending Kathleen Kennedy go back to your little Disney groupie no one wants to hear your complaints
Pal
The Acolyte is terrible regardless of if it was written by a man or a woman. Master Sol was literally right there in front if Qmir, knew that he was directly involved in the murder of two Jedi Masters, and just let him go because the script needed him to.
Alice
Where is the outrage that it was “helmed by a woman”?
“Outrage” is expected for any Star Wars show. Excluding Andor none of them have been even average quality.
Was The Mandalorian helmed by a woman? The Book of Boba Fett? Obi-Wan Kenobi? Ahsoka? Why are they all terrible too?
“Kathleen Kennedy ruffled some feathers just for pointing this out and openly discussing the “male-dominated” fanbase’s typical reactions to female and POC protagonists”
I wonder why. Maybe because it’s a misrepresentation of the people and their point. So women just love their awful characters? Mando is a trash character, Grogu is trash, Luke Skinwalker, Thrawn is worthless, the Kenobi show even made Kenobi bad. Is it because of the actors? Why would it be?
Finn was the favorite character in the sequels for most of the fanbase, but any potential the character had was entirely wasted.
I guess I’m not allowed to dislike any of the characters because I’m not a male?
Lucy was most people’s favorite part of the Fallout show. She’s one of the only things I liked about it. Where is this hatred of women and POC in well written media?
How is it proven correct by disparity in critic score and audience score? Critics almost always overrate garbage. The worse The Boys got, the higher critic score, the lower audience score. How is that a link to whatever Kathleen Kennedy said about toxic men hating women? If I were to go review the show now, it certainly wouldn’t even be 5/10. I could list you hundreds of reasons as to why. Throwing in the word “essentially” doesn’t help you, you have no evidence that there’s any such link. By your logic any episode of another show even directed by a woman should have a lower audience score. Bryce Dallas Howard’s episode of The Book of Boba Fett is the only one that was reviewed favorably, despite her Mandalorian episodes being terrible. Is there only a link when it confirms your bias?
What even is review bombing at this point? It has a 14% audience score right now, that means that 14% of people thought it was a 5/10 or better? Does that not sound reasonable? I consider it better than any of the other shows except Andor and that’s still going to only be a 3/10 for me. If anyone considers it a 5/10 or higher it must have really resonated with them, or they can’t accurately assess media. Which of course they can’t, because Fallout is probably a 3/10 too, but people loved it.
It’s kind of sad that the actor had to lie to friends and family when the show made no attempt to. The only reason you could not expect it to be him would be that it would be too obvious and in better media, you shouldn’t expect the writing to be so poor as to allow it. Especially after his interaction with Sol, with the ability to mindread presented within the show, the claim that the helmet shields it, the helmet being removed, the fact that he is complicit in the murders of Jedi Masters and allowed to go free. But with Star Wars now, you can always expect them to write nonsense, so how could you not know? He is by no means “under the radar”, yeah the goofy clumsy guy that knows too much and is the only other guy we’ve seen, yep definitely not him.
The lightsaber choreography is atrocious. Swinging at air, kicking when they could kill. “He gets in your head” – doesn’t.
Obscured by dark and trees. Characters not existing until they need to. Disappearing when they could win. Massively telegraphing anything, swinging at the sabers, overswinging leaving themselves exposed. Inconsistent use of abilities. Jedi Knights proving themselves completely worthless despite training, the Padawan arbitrarily being better than them because she’s a named character, despite having no training. Because the writer described the others as redshirts.
Yes, I’m sure the problem is (toxic) fans just hate “women and POC”
The only defense they can muster.
Alice
Where is the outrage that it was “helmed by a woman”?
“Outrage” is expected for any Star Wars show. Excluding Andor none of them have been even average quality.
Was The Mandalorian helmed by a woman? The Book of Boba Fett? Obi-Wan Kenobi? Ahsoka? Why are they all terrible too?
Alice
“Kathleen Kennedy ruffled some feathers just for pointing this out and openly discussing the “male-dominated” fanbase’s typical reactions to female and POC protagonists”
I wonder why. Maybe because it’s a misrepresentation of the people and their point. So women just love their awful characters? Mando is a trash character, Grogu is trash, Luke Skinwalker, Thrawn is worthless, the Kenobi show even made Kenobi bad. Is it because of the actors? Why would it be?
Finn was the favorite character in the sequels for most of the fanbase, but any potential the character had was entirely wasted.
I guess I’m not allowed to dislike any of the characters because I’m not a male?
Lucy was most people’s favorite part of the Fallout show. She’s one of the only things I liked about it. Where is this hatred of women and POC in well written media?
Alice
How is it proven correct by disparity in critic score and audience score? Critics almost always overrate garbage. The worse The Boys got, the higher critic score, the lower audience score. How is that a link to whatever Kathleen Kennedy said about toxic men hating women? If I were to go review the show now, it certainly wouldn’t even be 5/10. I could list you hundreds of reasons as to why. Throwing in the word “essentially” doesn’t help you, you have no evidence that there’s any such link. By your logic any episode of another show even directed by a woman should have a lower audience score. Bryce Dallas Howard’s episode of The Book of Boba Fett is the only one that was reviewed favorably, despite her Mandalorian episodes being terrible. Is there only a link when it confirms your bias?
What even is review bombing at this point? It has a 14% audience score right now, that means that 14% of people thought it was a 5/10 or better? Does that not sound reasonable? I consider it better than any of the other shows except Andor and that’s still going to only be a 3/10 for me. If anyone considers it a 5/10 or higher it must have really resonated with them, or they can’t accurately assess media. Which of course they can’t, because Fallout is probably a 3/10 too, but people loved it.
It’s kind of sad that the actor had to lie to friends and family when the show made no attempt to. The only reason you could not expect it to be him would be that it would be too obvious and in better media, you shouldn’t expect the writing to be so poor as to allow it. Especially after his interaction with Sol, with the ability to mindread presented within the show, the claim that the helmet shields it, the helmet being removed, the fact that he is complicit in the murders of Jedi Masters and allowed to go free. But with Star Wars now, you can always expect them to write nonsense, so how could you not know? He is by no means “under the radar”, yeah the goofy clumsy guy that knows too much and is the only other guy we’ve seen, yep definitely not him.
Alice
How is it proven correct by disparity in critic score and audience score? Critics almost always overrate bad shows. The worse The Boys got, the higher critic score, the lower audience score. How is that a link to whatever Kathleen Kennedy said about toxic men hating women? If I were to go review the show now, it certainly wouldn’t even be 5/10. I could list you hundreds of reasons as to why. Throwing in the word “essentially” doesn’t help you, you have no evidence that there’s any such link. By your logic any episode of another show even directed by a woman should have a lower audience score. Bryce Dallas Howard’s episode of The Book of Boba Fett is the only one that was reviewed favorably, despite her Mandalorian episodes being terrible. Is there only a link when it confirms your bias?
Alice
What even is review bombing at this point? It has a 14% audience score right now, that means that 14% of people thought it was a 5/10 or better? Does that not sound reasonable? I consider it better than any of the other shows except Andor and that’s still going to only be a 3/10 for me. If anyone considers it a 5/10 or higher it must have really resonated with them, or they can’t accurately assess media. Which of course they can’t, because Fallout is probably a 3/10 too, but people loved it.
Alice
It’s kind of sad that the actor had to lie to friends and family when the show made no attempt to. The only reason you could not expect it to be him would be that it would be too obvious and in better media, you shouldn’t expect the writing to be so poor as to allow it. Especially after his interaction with Sol, with the ability to mindread presented within the show, the claim that the helmet shields it, the helmet being removed, the fact that he is complicit in the murders of Jedi Masters and allowed to go free. But with Star Wars now, you can always expect them to write nonsense, so how could you not know? He is by no means “under the radar”, yeah the goofy clumsy guy that knows too much and is the only other guy we’ve seen, yep definitely not him.
Alice
The lightsaber choreography is atrocious. Swinging at air, kicking when they could kill. “He gets in your head” – doesn’t.
Obscured by dark and trees. Characters not existing until they need to. Disappearing when they could win. Massively telegraphing anything, swinging at the sabers, overswinging leaving themselves exposed. Inconsistent use of abilities. Jedi Knights proving themselves completely worthless despite training, the Padawan arbitrarily being better than them because she’s a named character, despite having no training. Because the writer described the others as redshirts.
Yes, I’m sure the problem is (toxic) fans just hate “women and POC”
The only defense they can muster.
Alice
The lightsaber choreography is atrocious. Swinging at air, kicking when they could kill. “He gets in your head” – doesn’t.
Obscured by dark and trees. Characters not existing until they need to. Disappearing when they could win. Massively telegraphing anything, swinging at the sabers, overswinging leaving themselves exposed. Inconsistent use of abilities.
Alice
Jedi Knights proving themselves completely worthless despite training, the Padawan arbitrarily being better than them because she’s a named character, despite having no training. Because the writer described the others as redshirts.
I’m sure the problem is toxic fans just hate women and POC.
The only defense they can muster.
Veronica
“Finn was the favorite character in the sequels for most of the fanbase, but any potential the character had was entirely wasted.”
-Finn was wasted? Finn was never supposed to be a lead character. The SWU films have always been about Skywalker vs. Palpatine. That’s not Finn. He was never supposed to be anything than the token black guy/black best friend/comic relief. It was RJ who beefed up his role in TLJ. There was really nothing for him to do once they let Poe live. Finn was never a commanding officer, he never even got rank as a ST. He served no purpose in TFA except to have someone for Rey to talk to. As for him being wasted, I don’t know where you got that from. Finn went from a side character in TFA to someone who led the charge and took down the main ship in TROS.
Alice
Finn was never supposed to be a main character? He fights Kylo in the culmination of TFA.
It was Poe that was supposed to be killed off in the crash, not Finn. Finn, Rey and Kylo were the three main characters of TFA going into TLJ. He was the only one with anything nearing a character arc in TFA, mirroring Han Solo’s in A New Hope.
“He was never a commanding officer, he never even got rank as a ST”
?
What has that got to do with anything at all?
TFA was absolutely awful, I’m not suggesting anyone was a great character, but it’s difficult not to be a better character than Rey. Could he not have been more than what you describe him as?
“side character in TFA to someone who led the charge and took down the main ship in TROS.”
It really seems to only ever be events that you people notice. Never writing. Never character.
“The SWU films have always been about Skywalker vs. Palpatine.”
That’s entirely arbitrary.
IV isn’t. V isn’t.
TFA wasn’t. TLJ wasn’t.
Why would anyone expect the sequels to be about Palpatine, when Palpatine died in Jedi?
“That’s not Finn.”
That’s not Solo, Qui-Gon or Kenobi either. They got to be characters, why didn’t Finn? How did you even think that supported your argument?
Alice
What even is review bombing at this point? It has a 14% audience score right now, that means that 14% of people thought it was a 5/10 or better? Does that not sound reasonable? I consider it better than any of the other shows except Andor and that’s still going to only be a 3/10 for me. If anyone considers it a 5/10 or higher it must have really resonated with them, or they can’t accurately assess media. Which of course they can’t, because Fallout is probably a 3/10 too, but people loved it.
Alice
The lightsaber choreography is atrocious. Swinging at air, kicking when they could kill. “He gets in your head” – doesn’t.
Obscured by dark and trees. Characters not existing until they need to. Disappearing when they could win. Massively telegraphing anything, swinging at the sabers, overswinging leaving themselves exposed. Inconsistent use of abilities.
joe
Alice you need some serious drugs…like right now!
Alice
@Joe
Is that what you’d recommend for people that don’t like poor writing? Was it on the basis that my response was lengthy?
If so, why don’t you suggest that to the person that wrote the original article misrepresenting fans and defending Harvey Weinstein’s assistant of all people? He might be stupid, but doesn’t need serious drugs just because his opinion differs. The author of the article praised cultural discussion.
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