Here’s the issue: they tried to be Netflix and they aren’t. To have regular, fresh content that people will subscribe for takes major $. Yes, they have the $ but it’s not sustainable for them as it’s not what they do very well. They should just have Disney+ for everything they make after it’s run its course in theaters and keep the price low. People aren’t going to pay higher subscription fees when the new content is sub par. I can’t even remember the last original content I watched on Disney+ that was great. Go back to $5 a month with the catalog you have. Go back to making ORIGINAL movies without an agenda that aren’t remakes or sequels and the fans will open their arms back up.
What Netflix does is they make the filmmakers shoulder the costs, then option the product if it looks like it will make them money, so they minimize risk and maximize profits. What Disney does is announce multi-million dollar projects, promote someone unqualified to run it, advertise diversity, schoolyard bully the critics, write the script on set, and pray that people like it because in fact they have absolutely NO idea what people like since they alienated the existing, predictable, audience. Amazon is doing it right: “Let’s option a bunch of old junk, and then we’ll make ad revenue while people working from home stream it in the background.” Amazon is cornering the Background Entertainment market, while Disney is trying to corner the Top Tier Entertainment market using glorified CW afternoon specials.
100% agree! … that’s when and why I canceled our family’s membership and have not regretted it for one second. Several friends and co-workers did exactly the same. They are so arrogant and delusional.
Same here. I would rather have zero Disney in my life than put up with the woke agenda.
Remember that it is families that have been supporting your success. If you throw filth at our children, we are going to (and did) uninvite you from our homes.
They can’t. The extremists have already infested the company. They’d have to fire 90% of the workforce, and Disney is more elaborate than one social media app. On the up side, once the extremists finally bury the company they’ll have to find a new outlet to infiltrate, so we’ll probably get 5-10 years of quiet while they’re working on that.
A quick google search tells me D+ was released in 2019. Another search tells me the CEO of Disney in 2019 was one, Bob Iger. It can’t be Chapek’s fault. So who is he furious with? Himself? It seems like he’s angrier with the people who’d been warning him that he’s driving Disney/Marvel/Pixar/LucasFilm off a cliff. Maybe shooting the messenger makes him feel validated or something.
You are absolutely correct. Chapek wasn’t in long enough to do that much damage. It takes a few years to develop those movies, so it had to be Iger to develop all of that ‘woke’ crap & let Chapek take the fall for it.
I cancelled my Disney+ due to a lack of new shows. I don’t need to see the service for already existing shows and movies which I have seen already! There’s just not enough new content to be worth the subscription price.
There are so many options today. Netflix started from sending out DVD to millions then moved to streaming. They had a huge headstart as there was no Disney option… Oh wait it was available on Netflix. Disney+ is fine, but perhaps streaming won’t ever make $$ . Amazon joined in and their web services make so much $$ they can afford to not make as much on video streaming. Not sure what the solution is, but I’d hate to lose all Disney content.
Not sure what all the complaints are about… With a yearly subscription it’s less than $10 a month for Disney, Star Wars, Marvel, National Geographic, Pixar and Star content. Granted there might not be new content coming from Disney or Marvel or Star Wars all the time, there are still plenty of stuff from Star. My family uses Disney+ more than Prime or Netflix.
I have access to all of those plus P+.
With all of those options, I find myself watching mostly network TV and sports.
Ran out of new content on Disney back in October…not interested in Echo.
Searched Netflix and Amazon all weekend. Managed to find 2 movies I hadn’t seen.
Spent another 5 hrs watching Tubi and 3hrs on FS1.
Just glad I’m not paying for any of these subscriptions…if they go away, I won’t miss them.
Can easily get one month of a service to binge a series of start trek or star wars.
I was abiut to pull the trigger on a month of Max last year just to watch final season of Westworld. But found out they didn’t have it!! It was already streaming for free on Tubi.
In my not so expertise opinion, much of the problem is in Iger himself. But I do not know if anyone else could dig the conglomerate out of the hole. I suspect a lot of the buyouts contributed greatly to the situation.
Disney sits amongst a civil war between its creative employees and its audience. The creatives want to push an agenda the audience doesn’t want. No, that’s not sustainable. If they can’t realign the employees to the mission of serving the audience, they’re going to need new employees. Further, the residuals contracts they have got themselves into are also causing them to hemorrhage cash on the streaming platforms. Disney can’t seem to shoot straight.
The president of the facility where I work had numerous questions about employee parking. He would tell us he hoped to improve the situation, but reminded us that we are to place our customers first. I think Disney needs to remember that.
Their interface stinks, it isn’t user friendly, it is cumbersome, you have to flip bac and forth from the menu page to the description of the show. Instead of having a one sentence summary like Tubi has. It will NEVER work with the miserable menu they have now. On top of that, they have massive content, but I couldn’t seem to find what I wanted.
It should have been a repository for the catalogue, but instead, many titles weren’t available.
Then you allowed woke morons to actively show spite for the audience and produce garbage, over and over.
Then you allowed woke morons to put out hot garbage series. Those turds should have resulted in people getting fired. Instead, you let them go out and attack the audience.
If you had launched it as the place to watch every Disney movie and show in existence, you might have been profitable. Then you could have taken on the heavy task of creating new properties for the service.
Disney needs a major purge. It’s full of people who think their job is to push ideology, even at the expense of quality productions. Until that stops, there is no saving Disney from its gradual death.
I think the future of Disney is on cable TV, in the theaters and on physical media (especially physical media like DVD and Blu-ray, and coming out in the theaters).
Igor is just as much of an idiot as Chapek .
They get what the deserve.
Create content for a vocal 7% of your customers, and you’re receipts will suffer, from lack of interest or worse, alienating the rest of your potential audience.
He can be angry about it and complain all he wants. It doesn’t change reality.
But when did that ever deter the woke mob?
Ignore the 60% that are families trying to raise children and another 20% who are fan boys (literally boys and men) of star wars and marvel properties and your receipts take another hit.
Maybe, the 13% audience left who are young and adult women will save them?? Not so far .
The real winners are the 7% woke and the losers are the rest.
The biggest loser is…Disney.
We don’t even go to their overpriced parks any more.
I don’t see what was wrong with licensing content to Netflix and Amazon video???
They got greedy and thought “We can make an extra 15-20% if we handle the streaming ourselves.”
Apparently, that’s not enough to run a streaming service.
I’d like to see them get smart, dump D+ (calls itself a FAILING grade) and go back to just making movies and series.
Didn’t they have a Disney Channel at one time too?
Everything was fine,
they’re just too greedy…and WOKE.
7% are far-left, 7% are far-right, and the rest are sick of you idiots making everything political.
It’s a streaming service. It’s proven to be a complex market to break into. If you don’t like the content… don’t watch it, but for the love of god, shut up.
What they don’t get is that they are not creating content which could last for decades. What they have created are IP’s that will be useless 20 years from now. Parents won’t take kids to see that crap in the parks or on the screen.
It’s quite ironic and sad really. Walt Disney (the man) started out drawing 15s cartoons to be shown before the main film. This was not his dream, but he understood that this was what the market wanted and profitably built up to his dream by putting viewers first at each step. He made their need for escapism core to his offering. Now, ironically, Disney Co is taking losses due to its seeming inability to stop dictating the terms of their viewers escapism
The bottom line is those last three series were garbage. The star wars series were very good. They keep making tv series and movies about obscure characters that were failed comes in the 80s nobody remembers. Keep the content on what people who are not over 25 can understand.
There definitely is a ludites wisdom to consider in all of this digital chaos.
Playstation removes games from their digital service all the time. If you want to play it more you have to seek out a physical copy. Same for Disney and Netflix shows. The only way to make sure you have access is with a physical copy.
I was wondering when all of this digital storage would fill up, it didn’t take long.
Alsonthe new problem with streaming is too much fracturing of content amongst too many providers.
(Most) people are not going to spend $189/mo on cable/internet and then subscribe to a bunch of additional services for another $150/mo.
THAT’S what’s not sustainable .
In addition, Tubi and sometime Pluto have much of the same and similar content for free. And they both show LESS commercials than Hulu .
Disney needs to quit paying for new, crappy content. Instead, put the loads of shows and movies they own on the service that have never yet been available. So many of the live action stuff from the 40s thru the 70s has never seen the light of day and has no cost. When I subscribed, that’s what I was hoping to see and I have been sorely disappointed.
I totally agree. There is tons of stuff that Disney could add to Disney+. They have a lot of things just sitting there including tons of TV series from the 80s and 90s as well as the earlier ones mentioned, tv specials, documentaries about anything Disney and probably tons more.
Know your audience and their makeup. Wokeism is destroying businesses and costing thousands of jobs. Look at the last film and how you alienated your biggest audience countries – China and India. People and families look to be entertained and Disney is in the business of entertainment. So go back to the drawing board and focus on what you are good at.
You have huge back catalogues of TV series and films. Start to put those on Disney+.
Maybe look at viewing figures like Netflix does to see what is really popular and what needs putting back in the vault.
They should open the Disney Vault and put ALL their content on the streaming service if they want to get more customers. Disney has a lot of awesome movies that didn’t become super popular when they first came out that audiences would love: Sword in the Stone, Oliver and Company, Tarzan, Treasure Planet, the Black Cauldron and so many more gems are waiting to be discovered and appreciated.
I always saw streaming as the future of motion pictures. The genie was out of the bottle during the pandemic. Netflix saw the writing on the wall and started making movies for its platform (Coming to America 2, Beverly Hills Cop 4, Zack Snyder’s competitor to Star Wars Rebel Moon, etc.) Brick and Motar theaters are going the way of the Crank Engine. Maybe if Marvel would start releasing some of their big budget movies on Disney + instead of the theaters, they would see a rise in viewership. Pumping up Hulu and ESPN should help in the long run, but having contracts for exclusive live events could help, (like WWE contracting with Peacock to stream Wrestlemania Weekend) that broadcast put Peacock on the Map. There’s money to be made it just takes a shift in perspective, and occasional leaps of faith.
It would be great if they took the successful shows…and built on them, rather than cutting them off at three seasons. It makes no sense to create an amazing kids show and then cancel it after three seasons. Elena of Avalor = AMAZING for minority children…Ladybug = AMAZING for girls ….shows like that should be moved to Disney+ and grown…moved into real t.v. from cartoon even. It just seems like creativity is gone from Disney…or they care more about Money than anything else. Walt Disney cared about making people feel, laugh, love and grow as humans. I think the company had lost that.
“Elena of Avalor = AMAZING for minority children…Ladybug = AMAZING for girls” so minority children dont include girls? You’re racism is confusing you since you didnt include anything for “white boys”. People like you that love to say that magical woke term inclusion you are failing the agenda.
That part of the population is growing while those who use the words “woke agenda” are disappearing, despite the best efforts of a nonagenarian newspaper editor and his ancient cronies.
It’s the 1980s all over again. Disney dumped their movie library on VHS, and families stopped going to the cinema. In response, they created the “Disney Vault” to limit home video availability, and families returned to the cinema (just in time for The Little Mermaid). Once again, Disney dumped their movie library on Disney+ and families once again stopped going to the cinema. Disney+ is destroying Disney. If Disney just licensed their movies to other streaming services, they could re-created the “vault” by limiting and timing licenses, and families would return to the cinema. If Disney just licensed to other streaming services, their Marvel shows could bring in revenue. Disney would be better off without Disney+, but they refuse to cut their loses.
How does that fix it. People would still wait to see it on streaming. Problem is the agenda putting it ahead of making good content with good stories. They are depending on sequels instead of new content, alienating fan bases to franchises, hire dei and agenda people to do things instead of people best for the job and it’s driving things into the ground. My boys could care less about star wars and marvel anymore and my daughter didn’t like new mermaid or wish has become very disappointed in disney. All disney has done is divide fan bases have a race swapped mermaid changing lore in star wars changing characters in marvel. Im not saying not to have minority characters at the for front but make new content like Encanto andMoana those were probably the best they have made in awhile. You can call it woke agenda driven whatever I don’t care but it’s hurting the brand. It’s hurting all brands gaming industry is suffering from it as well. They need to tell these investment firms and such like wearebridge.com and others to f..k off give them the finger and be done with it
The biggest pronlem with sreaming vs theatrical releases is that if you release a big potential blockbuster on streaming, youve already limited yourself on potential earnings. Say a movie like Infinity War would have been released on streaming, There is no way it would have made even a fraction of what it did in the theaters. You stream it for 29.99 a pop, a persons whole family (say 5-15 people) watches the movie. Versus that that same 10-15 people paying $10-15 per person. Do the math. Besides some movies need to be seen in the theater.
Streaming subscription fees are never going to replace national broadcast ad revenue or movie ticket revenue. You can’t offer a household unlimited content for the price of one admission and turn a profit. Streaming is a flawed model.
A business in the hands of ideological (Marxist/post Marxist) fanatics and their brainwashed, pandering Useful Fools convinced that they are on a sort of Jihad where blowing up themselves up economically is worthy…
Stop pandering and make good shows. This is the biggest problem. Pandering to a segment of society that don’t even care thar much for action movies,comic books and the such. The amount women that do like that isn’t enough to run the industry. No female centered project was a hit. You had a formula and your arrogance got in your way.
I think one of the biggest problems is the misinterpretation or misuse of the word woke. Bringing public awareness to social injustice is all the word woke is supposed to mean it doesn’t mean we need gay couples, gay characters or all-inclusive nationalities in every single story that’s ever published. Write a good story if the opportunity presents itself to bring out a good tasteful gay character that’s not trying to screw everything on the screen, then input it, but otherwise the world is predominantly straight. Therefore, most stories should include straightness. Nobody hates gays except when everybody gay is trying to make all the straights gay
I think one of the biggest problems is the misinterpretation or misuse of the word woke. Bringing public awareness to social injustice is all the word woke is supposed to mean it doesn’t mean we need gay couples, gay characters or all-inclusive nationalities in every single story that’s ever published. Write a good story if the opportunity presents itself to bring out a good tasteful gay character that’s not trying to screw everything on the screen, then input it, but otherwise the world is predominantly straight. Therefore, most stories should include straightness. Nobody hates gays except when everybody gay is trying to make all the straights gay
No one is trying to convert straight people. If anything, you got it backwards. The gay community is merely trying to peacefully coexist with straight people without the alt-right religious fanatics trying to round them up and send them to conversion camps, or creating laws that stifle their civil rights. If you change a few words around, your argument could just as easily apply to religion: No one hates Christians until they want to make everyone Christian and dominate the landscape with their agenda.
That’s the lie you have fallen for today. Yes they are eccentric people out there but that happens on every side of things. Most are just angry that I have to see more and more and more in my media. I don’t hate gay people I have alot of gay friends and nearly 2/3 of them feel alot of this mess in entertainment and media has gone to far and blown up
I love the Chapek gimmick. He wasn’t there long enough to drive fundamental change. He simply rolled out projects/transformations in the works when Iger was there. What a scam this is pretending he’s fixing stuff from Chapek when everybody knows he had a lot of control the whole time on top of it.
Go back to the basics. Stop pandering and apologizing. Stop over sexualizing childrens content and stay in your lane and out of politics. The rest will work itself out if you do.
I think they would have more viewers if they returned everything that was removed from disney plus and add everything that disney owns the rights to on the streaming service and dont remove stuff anymore because that’s one thing that can potentially upset consumers, and you could even return the stuff that didn’t work out like the willow TV show I really wanted to watch it and I was looking forward to seeing it but it was not on disney plus when I subscribed to it I really hope it gets put back on so I can get a chance to watch it
Some other folks have said it, the Alphabet Mafia is running the asylum. I understand that gays exist and they are welcome to live their lives however they see fit because this is America. However what about the rest of the 93-97% of us who just want to be entertained? Why does sexuality which is a small part of the human existence and race keep taking center stage instead of good story telling? You can certainly do both, but evidently Disney and other companies can’t seem to do it. It’s forced and it’s obvious. Netflix put out an Ark for 14 year old kids. In the opening minutes people were killed brutally and the main character who was a paleontologist was also a lesbian kissing her girlfriend. You can have strong female characters without making the men caricatures of real life. Men built everything you can see and humanity did just fine for thousands of years before you relegated manhood to the dustbin of history and elevated feminism and homosexuality to the extent that young people would rather use the litter box than receive an education and join civilized society. Many would argue that this start at home and they would be right but when middle and upper class families have two working parents and the tv and cell phone raises the kids is it any wonder that the world is a mess. Disney grew to its present size because out of all the media companies it stood for wholesome family entertainment. It’s obvious that it no longer does and nobody has stepped into that vacuum. As a father I shouldn’t have to sift every form of entertainment to make sure my kids aren’t being exposed to things I don’t want them to. There used to be accountability from the top down. Now we don’t have that and parents have to be the thought police as well as the parent. It’s exhausting
Most people here in the comments section understand the reason. Call it what you want but don’t without the hate. Simple truth is the majority of the fan bases for Disney’s highest earners are straight males. Race, gender and sexuality aside. This is your biggest downfall. All female superhero casts can work if they are in fact original characters. When you gender swap a role you lose a fanbase that has followed that comic or otherwise character sometimes for decades. This applies across all properties. The same will also always happen when you change a characters sexuality. Not because people are homophobic but mostly because the stories that have been written for years and often those fans whole lives are based in that characters original sexuality. You may gain a few people but you will lose tens of thousands. The same is true with race. However there is an acceptance to that rule. Don’t change the origin path to the characters story arch. Such as how they received their powers or family settings or traumas that shaped and molded who they are or why they operate the way that they do. They never follow that rule though so it becomes an issue. For the same reason no one wants a white black panther fans not just white, struggle with a random white character as a different ethnicity. Because that is what they know. Stick with the original writings and characters like you started with and you’ll see that same success. Also when you alienate families by hyper sexualized content you lose household audiences. Those are the subscribers your missing. You want to be in homes everywhere make the content that is suitable for all families. You want to own the box office again bring back the stories and build the new characters that those fans remember and you’ll succeed. Most importantly if you want everyone to hear what you have to say then you must be willing to listen to every voice not just the loudest.
The D+ should be easy to use. It is not. Why have 3 individual apps that are cluttered? Why not have 1 app? Include ABC as a streaming channel. Get back to the Disney channel. Have an ESPN channel where the primetime game is aired. The ESPN app is horrible. Monday night football is ruined for me. Just make it simple. Not one person I know likes navigating through these endless menus in the streaming apps.
It’s not woke you need igor but to wake up your losing it if you think your latest movies and shows are to go by because they stink to high heaven. Bring back successful films and programmes like johnny Depp in potc and two kings not your rubbish on the channels and big screens because Disney is going downhill and extremely stupid Walt and Roy must be spinning in their graves due to what your doing to there company at least they listened and respected their public now what we want doesn’t Matt
Iger is an idiot. Thats the problem. Of course you are going to lose billions if you creat shows and movies for billions then scrap them. The service is not the problem. He is!!! If you are woke, you are a fucking joke!!
Personally. I would feel the channel much more worthwhile if they added the older classic shows. Things that were shown on Vault Disney or Wonderful World of Disney before streaming became a thing.
Don’t quite understand all this ‘woke’ stuff, but I think Iger is right.
Movie studios should concentrate on making good original pictures not constant spinoffs.
There will always be an audience for well written decent entertainment.
To me Disney represents all the great movies I grew up with. Not gay they didn’t have wonderful cartoons, but what I think of first is always Cinderella, The Little Mermaid, The Great Mouse Detective, Snow White, and all of those other really awesome movies like Meet the Robinson’s or Wall-e. Not the streaming service and certainly not the crappy live action remakes. Disney needs to get back to doing what it does best!
I had a Disney+ subscription from the start of the service for my middle-school & high school aged kids, but cancelled more than a year ago after tiring of the substandard content.
The classic catalog movies will always be great, but the new content (esp. Star Wars and Marvel) was really poor. Without much complaint, my kids have moved on to other IPs, and I’ve never reconsidered my decision.
Sorry, Bob, but you know the old saw: a day late and a dollar short.
If you create crap content that people don’t want to watch or pay for, what do you expect? A lot less Kathleen Kennedy and Kevin Feige (i.e. FIRE THEM!) and more Jon Favreau and even George Lucas if you want to put Disney+ in the black.
Feige, has done a whole lot of good for Disney as the head of Marvel, there will always be some problems, and I agree that this and the previous hasn’t been good. Now regarding Star Wars, I agree with you all the way.
I clearly have no idea how any of this works, but it seems to me that it should be relatively easy to figure out how to generate profits or, at the very least, to maintain a pretty considerable sum of money: if there are 150 million subscribers and they pay about 20 bucks each (I realize there are tier pricing, but that’s for you to figure out), that comes out to about 3 BILLION dollars! That’s not really a horrible sum. If one cannot figure out how to use 3 Billion dollars, then the issue may not be on the service. Again, this is an extreme oversimplification, but 3 Billion dollars IS 3 Billion dollars!
Normal people don’t care about “woke agenda” conspiracies. They care that there used to be one good streaming source, and now there’s a dozen mediocre streaming sources. Kind of like when they tried to turn Napster into a paid download service as if everyone just wanted to use a service called Napster, and the free music was just some fringe benefit.
Here’s a thought Bob. Just make entertaining content, without the need for political messaging. You need to understand that Disney are not the arbiters of what is politically correct content. Rewind 10 years and make content people want to watch.
I still have my Disney Plus as I believe that Disney will get better. Disney has to ask fans what they want to see in terms of movies and TV shows. Many fans have written fanfiction that can be the basis for movies and TV shows.
I think Bob’s absolutely right to combine Disney+ with Hulu and ESPN. The streaming network choices eventually are going to shake narrow groups out. They will need audiences from bigger streamers like NetFlix or Amazon.
People don’t want to watch garbage ..Shows like Daredevil & the Punisher were great on Netflix ..That’s how they should be making shows on Disney+ instead of constantly pushing DEI ..Just stick to the source material..we bought the comics because we loved them not to be lectured to ..Marvel seem determined to entertain a very small minority at the expense of a very large majority & it’s costing them billion
Supposedly Woke Agendas…
What!?
The DEI stuff is right in front of you, with no trying of making it make sense.
The lack of story writing & ignoring the Fans “they’re the ones who pays your bills, by consuming”.
Who are the type of people who paved the road to what need culture is, yet you wanna ignore the male voice, or the fact the person is a white male… “I’m brown skinned” & dont feel like I can’t relate to Anakin Skywalker because he’s white, what a bigot way of thinking that is..
Wake up Disney, you’re gonna burn yourself down while you make a female Pirates movie…. that sounds engaging & Solid… a female pirate what the….
Go woke go broke. Any idiot can see that Disney crapped int he mess kit and is earning their reward. I used to respect Disney, thought they did professional work, but they screwed up John Carter royally and have gone downhill since. Now that Disney discovered wokeness they only produce garbage. Who wants to pay for propaganda when you can have shoved down your throat for free?
Entertainment is for, guess what, ENTERTAINMENT, not woke garbage! Piss off your customers and they will go somewhere else; or won’t bother to look in the first place.
There are lots of choices out there. Disney isn’t one of them.
People are bagging on the new Star Wars when I don’t think it’s half bad. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt on the Acolyte until I see it.
Marvel blew it’s wad on Endgame and instead of building a series of movies like the pre-Endgame set, they’re trying to hit Billion dollar paydays on every one.
Someone please explain to me, clarify in detail if you can. What is this woke stuff that you are complaining about. I can’t put my finger on anything to complain about. I’m very happy with my service. I think hulu is a real plus and there’s lots of good stuff to watch. Why in the world would I want to complain and be miserable, I have to say I feel really good about being happy and enjoying the service.. But again, I will ask. Please clarify what is making your day so miserable that disney is doing to you.. WOKE?!!!
They’re regurgitating a manufactured definition of “woke” that was created in the echo chamber of the Truth Social and Fox News contingent of society and then spoon-fed to their followers, and it’s far removed from the original definition of woke, which simply means being aware of social injustice and striving for inclusiveness and representation for all lifestyles and cultures. They’re now perpetuating this absurd bastardization of the real definition, which puts forth the idea that wokeness is a way for the gay community to indoctrinate young children into a sexualized lifestyle and use Disney as a tool toward this goal.
You have a refreshingly healthy attitude. Keep enjoying your streaming services, misery-free.
Disney needs to focus its time on writing quality movies like it once used to and not on live action movies – Monsters Inc. , A Bug’s Life, Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs etc. These are timeless classics. No one asked for a live action reimagining and no one asked for there to be changes done so that you pander to a small minority. Stop altering great story plots to try and appease a small vocal minority, it’s ridiculous
Just bring back Disney Channel, Junior and XD back into our southeast Asian TVs: astro! Although we wanted a new Pixar series!! It’s full of emotions. 😉
Keep Disney+ as I have several grand children and they love Disney+. They will watch this nonstop. If you shut it down the children will greatly miss it.
I have a 2 and 4 yr old who only know Disney. They simply so not know about another channel. Thanks to Disney+…the future is bright! You are building you’re next generation of super fans…their just not old enough to spend the money yet. Patience….
Because yall spend 64million to make 8 episodes and release them weekly instead of all at once then wait 3 years to drop season 2 that’s why Disney + is in the toilet after 3 years to make the show
Iger is a moron. He cannot see the forest for the trees. There are plenty of opportunities to be made with the platform that are clearly being ignored for either political reasons or sheer ignorance. He is supporting 3 separate platforms and their infrastructure along with expenses for the s3 buckets under them and the IT support continued software development marketing etc instead of migrating them under the single umbrella of Disney and there is no end insight. A substantial amount of people either share or left the platform for various reasons, either protest over cost hikes or politically backed policies that Disney has been quite vocal about. If he truly wanted to make money he should focus on making money not partnering with one side or the other politically. The purpose of his business is entertainment not social justice or change. People go to entertainment to escape those realities of life. THAT is where the money is. THAT is what Walt sought to do all those years ago…provide an escape from reality.
People also want to see themselves represented occasionally in the entertainment they seek out for escapism. That’s not politics. It’s just inclusiveness.
No they don’t. Representation does not matter in Hollywood. It’s not Congress. If not having representation in Hollywood is equivalent of taxation without representation then call me His Royal Majesty, King George III. Maybe those groups and “victims” who think Hollywood has “marginalized” them through history can go off and start their own separate studios.
Desculpe a resposta em português, favor traduzir… A alma de Walt Disney está em filmes como Branca de Neve, Pinochio ou Cinderela e a essência desses filmes é justiça social e filosofia de um mundo justo e melhor. Os filmes não são só entretenimento e sim esperança, uma utopia de mundo ideial, ricos com mesmas possibilidades de pobres, o bem contra o mal, princesas e príncipe encantado – a essência da Disney – são apenas entretenimento? Não… Walt Disney nos apresentava um mundo justo, “democrático”, participativo e ideal… E assim é hoje, décadas depois, nos filmes atuais que representam os debates sociais atuais tal qual eram os debates da década de 30 e 40 do século passado. Obviamente há um comportamento político que todos insistem em rotular, mas isso sempre teve e a “vida que segue”!
I’m 72 years old, my daughter is 40, and my grandson is 16. We all enjoy Disney+ very much, as there’s something for everyone. The streaming platform would have difficulty competing with Netflix, however, as it contains lots of foreign content. Disney+ is different, obviously. We love all the fantasy programs, including Marvel especially, and I love the Nat Geo shows. Loki was fantastic!
We wouldn’t mind R rated content as we’re an older household, but please, no sports (ugh)! Parents of younger children would simply set up parental controls.
Keep it coming, Disney!
I would not subscribe to Disney+ or go to Disney park for the reason for being supportive of “woke” agenda. Disney was founded on “family entertainment” and they strayed away from that by supporting political agenda that contradicts family entertainment – period.
Disney has always supported family first politicians, until the Republican Party of Florida and their Senate leadership decided they knew what is best for Florida families and not parents.
Explain how “woke” contradicts family entertainment. I’m curious to hear what YOUR definition of woke is, because the REAL definition has no impact on family entertainment – period.
Disney+ was a terrible idea from the get go. They should have just licensed out their IP for brief periods of time to like Netflix someone. Then it could have been a special Disney event. All they did was spend billions and water down their IP to where it’s almost valueless. This was totally FOMO.
Disney keeps upping the prices on their products every year it seems. And now they shove commercials down our throats to make a subscription more “budget friendly.” That isn’t a way to get new subscribers. People also want to binge entire seasons of shows. If we wanted weekly episodes we would go back to cable. Bring back where you could rent the movies that are new releases.
Disney+ is a great idea and we have been watching a lot of content on Disney+ over the last few years. Now, just a few years since its release it is more than double the original annual cost. For a lot of people it is not a sustainable cost to be putting out even although there is a vast amount of movies, programmes and behind the scenes documentaries to enjoy. It’s really pushing a lot of people out of the Disney way of life! Something serious needs to happen!
Just bring back Disney Channel, Junior and XD back into our southeast Asian TVs: astro! Although we wanted a new Pixar series!! It’s full of emotions. 😉
It serves them right for wasting SO much money on shows that may or may not be popular. I’ve been with them since the beginning, and I’m still hoping they add all of the Walt Era content sooner than later. That would cost them very little in comparison.
Cancelled my subscription a while back due to the fact most of the classics were never released on the streaming service. My understanding was that eventually everything in the vault would be available to stream but apparently I was wrong… Back to DVDs for me…
Aww cry me a river. You and your ilk decided to “disrupt” the traditional broadcast model years ago in favor of Netflix’s cheap subscription formula only to later realize it’s not viable, so you then pull back and decimate the entire industry in the process, and now you’re losing billions every year? Good. I have no sympathy for monopolies or corporate greed. Go suck an egg, Bobby.
Comments for “Not Sustainable, Not Acceptable”: CEO Bob Iger Gives Up on Disney+
Yensid
Here’s the issue: they tried to be Netflix and they aren’t. To have regular, fresh content that people will subscribe for takes major $. Yes, they have the $ but it’s not sustainable for them as it’s not what they do very well. They should just have Disney+ for everything they make after it’s run its course in theaters and keep the price low. People aren’t going to pay higher subscription fees when the new content is sub par. I can’t even remember the last original content I watched on Disney+ that was great. Go back to $5 a month with the catalog you have. Go back to making ORIGINAL movies without an agenda that aren’t remakes or sequels and the fans will open their arms back up.
Jimbo Jones
What Netflix does is they make the filmmakers shoulder the costs, then option the product if it looks like it will make them money, so they minimize risk and maximize profits. What Disney does is announce multi-million dollar projects, promote someone unqualified to run it, advertise diversity, schoolyard bully the critics, write the script on set, and pray that people like it because in fact they have absolutely NO idea what people like since they alienated the existing, predictable, audience. Amazon is doing it right: “Let’s option a bunch of old junk, and then we’ll make ad revenue while people working from home stream it in the background.” Amazon is cornering the Background Entertainment market, while Disney is trying to corner the Top Tier Entertainment market using glorified CW afternoon specials.
gmk2311
Jimbo nailed it.
Jim
I couldn’t agree more with all that you said. I dropped mine because the new shows were not worth the increase price to have it.
Wl
Go woke , go broke
Look at their greatest stock crash it was when they fired Gina carano.
Carl
100% agree! … that’s when and why I canceled our family’s membership and have not regretted it for one second. Several friends and co-workers did exactly the same. They are so arrogant and delusional.
Lp9087
Same here. I would rather have zero Disney in my life than put up with the woke agenda.
Remember that it is families that have been supporting your success. If you throw filth at our children, we are going to (and did) uninvite you from our homes.
Mike Rotch
Go back to what works. 10 bucks a month for existing content, stop with the rainbow agenda nonsense.
Jimbo Jones
They can’t. The extremists have already infested the company. They’d have to fire 90% of the workforce, and Disney is more elaborate than one social media app. On the up side, once the extremists finally bury the company they’ll have to find a new outlet to infiltrate, so we’ll probably get 5-10 years of quiet while they’re working on that.
gmk2311
Jombo nails it again!
Blackstar
I like moon girl 😛
Jimbo Jones
A quick google search tells me D+ was released in 2019. Another search tells me the CEO of Disney in 2019 was one, Bob Iger. It can’t be Chapek’s fault. So who is he furious with? Himself? It seems like he’s angrier with the people who’d been warning him that he’s driving Disney/Marvel/Pixar/LucasFilm off a cliff. Maybe shooting the messenger makes him feel validated or something.
Laura Bodman
You are absolutely correct. Chapek wasn’t in long enough to do that much damage. It takes a few years to develop those movies, so it had to be Iger to develop all of that ‘woke’ crap & let Chapek take the fall for it.
Still Racer
I cancelled my Disney+ due to a lack of new shows. I don’t need to see the service for already existing shows and movies which I have seen already! There’s just not enough new content to be worth the subscription price.
Bluegrassking
Exactly! I own the legacy content so I have zero interest in a monthly tithe to the Mouse.
If they kill the content then they killed that yearly I pay.
Jim
I couldn’t agree more with all that you said. I dropped mine because the new shows were not worth the increase price to have it.
Martin
There are so many options today. Netflix started from sending out DVD to millions then moved to streaming. They had a huge headstart as there was no Disney option… Oh wait it was available on Netflix. Disney+ is fine, but perhaps streaming won’t ever make $$ . Amazon joined in and their web services make so much $$ they can afford to not make as much on video streaming. Not sure what the solution is, but I’d hate to lose all Disney content.
John Verheijen
Disney, is like the Titanic. They hit the iceberg, but there is no real problem, because it’s unsinkable……
Koji
Not sure what all the complaints are about… With a yearly subscription it’s less than $10 a month for Disney, Star Wars, Marvel, National Geographic, Pixar and Star content. Granted there might not be new content coming from Disney or Marvel or Star Wars all the time, there are still plenty of stuff from Star. My family uses Disney+ more than Prime or Netflix.
gmk2311
I have access to all of those plus P+.
With all of those options, I find myself watching mostly network TV and sports.
Ran out of new content on Disney back in October…not interested in Echo.
Searched Netflix and Amazon all weekend. Managed to find 2 movies I hadn’t seen.
Spent another 5 hrs watching Tubi and 3hrs on FS1.
Just glad I’m not paying for any of these subscriptions…if they go away, I won’t miss them.
Can easily get one month of a service to binge a series of start trek or star wars.
I was abiut to pull the trigger on a month of Max last year just to watch final season of Westworld. But found out they didn’t have it!! It was already streaming for free on Tubi.
Larry Virden
In my not so expertise opinion, much of the problem is in Iger himself. But I do not know if anyone else could dig the conglomerate out of the hole. I suspect a lot of the buyouts contributed greatly to the situation.
Joseph Gillespie
Disney sits amongst a civil war between its creative employees and its audience. The creatives want to push an agenda the audience doesn’t want. No, that’s not sustainable. If they can’t realign the employees to the mission of serving the audience, they’re going to need new employees. Further, the residuals contracts they have got themselves into are also causing them to hemorrhage cash on the streaming platforms. Disney can’t seem to shoot straight.
James
The president of the facility where I work had numerous questions about employee parking. He would tell us he hoped to improve the situation, but reminded us that we are to place our customers first. I think Disney needs to remember that.
Mike
Their interface stinks, it isn’t user friendly, it is cumbersome, you have to flip bac and forth from the menu page to the description of the show. Instead of having a one sentence summary like Tubi has. It will NEVER work with the miserable menu they have now. On top of that, they have massive content, but I couldn’t seem to find what I wanted.
gmk2311
Try the SEARCH icon
Critical eye
NO.
Follow what Sony is doing. Make movies and license them to Netflix.
In other words, stay in your lane.
Jeff
Free advice for Bob:
The problem is you filled d+ with crapola.
It should have been a repository for the catalogue, but instead, many titles weren’t available.
Then you allowed woke morons to actively show spite for the audience and produce garbage, over and over.
Then you allowed woke morons to put out hot garbage series. Those turds should have resulted in people getting fired. Instead, you let them go out and attack the audience.
If you had launched it as the place to watch every Disney movie and show in existence, you might have been profitable. Then you could have taken on the heavy task of creating new properties for the service.
Disney needs a major purge. It’s full of people who think their job is to push ideology, even at the expense of quality productions. Until that stops, there is no saving Disney from its gradual death.
Jacob Allen
I think the future of Disney is on cable TV, in the theaters and on physical media (especially physical media like DVD and Blu-ray, and coming out in the theaters).
Gmk2311
Igor is just as much of an idiot as Chapek .
They get what the deserve.
Create content for a vocal 7% of your customers, and you’re receipts will suffer, from lack of interest or worse, alienating the rest of your potential audience.
He can be angry about it and complain all he wants. It doesn’t change reality.
But when did that ever deter the woke mob?
Ignore the 60% that are families trying to raise children and another 20% who are fan boys (literally boys and men) of star wars and marvel properties and your receipts take another hit.
Maybe, the 13% audience left who are young and adult women will save them?? Not so far .
The real winners are the 7% woke and the losers are the rest.
The biggest loser is…Disney.
We don’t even go to their overpriced parks any more.
I don’t see what was wrong with licensing content to Netflix and Amazon video???
They got greedy and thought “We can make an extra 15-20% if we handle the streaming ourselves.”
Apparently, that’s not enough to run a streaming service.
I’d like to see them get smart, dump D+ (calls itself a FAILING grade) and go back to just making movies and series.
Didn’t they have a Disney Channel at one time too?
Everything was fine,
they’re just too greedy…and WOKE.
Ryan
7% are far-left, 7% are far-right, and the rest are sick of you idiots making everything political.
It’s a streaming service. It’s proven to be a complex market to break into. If you don’t like the content… don’t watch it, but for the love of god, shut up.
Deb
What they don’t get is that they are not creating content which could last for decades. What they have created are IP’s that will be useless 20 years from now. Parents won’t take kids to see that crap in the parks or on the screen.
Noel
Totally, Marvel and Star Wars which have both been around since the 60’s (marvel even longer) definitely don’t have staying power
Andy
It’s quite ironic and sad really. Walt Disney (the man) started out drawing 15s cartoons to be shown before the main film. This was not his dream, but he understood that this was what the market wanted and profitably built up to his dream by putting viewers first at each step. He made their need for escapism core to his offering. Now, ironically, Disney Co is taking losses due to its seeming inability to stop dictating the terms of their viewers escapism
I.B.
😂😂😂 How fragile are you?
Daniel
Could not have said it better
Brett
Spot On!
Aaron
The bottom line is those last three series were garbage. The star wars series were very good. They keep making tv series and movies about obscure characters that were failed comes in the 80s nobody remembers. Keep the content on what people who are not over 25 can understand.
gmk2311
There definitely is a ludites wisdom to consider in all of this digital chaos.
Playstation removes games from their digital service all the time. If you want to play it more you have to seek out a physical copy. Same for Disney and Netflix shows. The only way to make sure you have access is with a physical copy.
I was wondering when all of this digital storage would fill up, it didn’t take long.
Alsonthe new problem with streaming is too much fracturing of content amongst too many providers.
(Most) people are not going to spend $189/mo on cable/internet and then subscribe to a bunch of additional services for another $150/mo.
THAT’S what’s not sustainable .
In addition, Tubi and sometime Pluto have much of the same and similar content for free. And they both show LESS commercials than Hulu .
Andrea
Disney needs to quit paying for new, crappy content. Instead, put the loads of shows and movies they own on the service that have never yet been available. So many of the live action stuff from the 40s thru the 70s has never seen the light of day and has no cost. When I subscribed, that’s what I was hoping to see and I have been sorely disappointed.
Darrenf
I totally agree. There is tons of stuff that Disney could add to Disney+. They have a lot of things just sitting there including tons of TV series from the 80s and 90s as well as the earlier ones mentioned, tv specials, documentaries about anything Disney and probably tons more.
Donald
Know your audience and their makeup. Wokeism is destroying businesses and costing thousands of jobs. Look at the last film and how you alienated your biggest audience countries – China and India. People and families look to be entertained and Disney is in the business of entertainment. So go back to the drawing board and focus on what you are good at.
You have huge back catalogues of TV series and films. Start to put those on Disney+.
Maybe look at viewing figures like Netflix does to see what is really popular and what needs putting back in the vault.
Gilgamesh
We wouldnt want to offend China or India. Good moral supporters of the USA.
Brett
You missed the point.
Todd Hudson
It is ive watched plenty of movies and shoes from the Disney family night television on there
Faye
They should open the Disney Vault and put ALL their content on the streaming service if they want to get more customers. Disney has a lot of awesome movies that didn’t become super popular when they first came out that audiences would love: Sword in the Stone, Oliver and Company, Tarzan, Treasure Planet, the Black Cauldron and so many more gems are waiting to be discovered and appreciated.
Mike
I always saw streaming as the future of motion pictures. The genie was out of the bottle during the pandemic. Netflix saw the writing on the wall and started making movies for its platform (Coming to America 2, Beverly Hills Cop 4, Zack Snyder’s competitor to Star Wars Rebel Moon, etc.) Brick and Motar theaters are going the way of the Crank Engine. Maybe if Marvel would start releasing some of their big budget movies on Disney + instead of the theaters, they would see a rise in viewership. Pumping up Hulu and ESPN should help in the long run, but having contracts for exclusive live events could help, (like WWE contracting with Peacock to stream Wrestlemania Weekend) that broadcast put Peacock on the Map. There’s money to be made it just takes a shift in perspective, and occasional leaps of faith.
Brandy
It would be great if they took the successful shows…and built on them, rather than cutting them off at three seasons. It makes no sense to create an amazing kids show and then cancel it after three seasons. Elena of Avalor = AMAZING for minority children…Ladybug = AMAZING for girls ….shows like that should be moved to Disney+ and grown…moved into real t.v. from cartoon even. It just seems like creativity is gone from Disney…or they care more about Money than anything else. Walt Disney cared about making people feel, laugh, love and grow as humans. I think the company had lost that.
Chris B
“Elena of Avalor = AMAZING for minority children…Ladybug = AMAZING for girls” so minority children dont include girls? You’re racism is confusing you since you didnt include anything for “white boys”. People like you that love to say that magical woke term inclusion you are failing the agenda.
Jimmy
I think they should scrap streaming. And bring disc sales back for the Australian fans.
BillinElPaso
They need to get rid of the woke agenda and the ‘gayness’. They are really over-emphasizing that percentage of the population when it’s not that high!
James
That part of the population is growing while those who use the words “woke agenda” are disappearing, despite the best efforts of a nonagenarian newspaper editor and his ancient cronies.
Joey
That “disappearing” population is just sharpening the pitchforks ….
Kungaloosh
…and then those pitchforks are dropping to ground as their ancient owners dematerialize into thin air like a Thanos snap.
Dave
Disney Bus Is Awesome
Ryumancer
How are you so sure those losers are “disappearing”?
The uber-woke snowflake crowd seems as strong as ever today.
Kungaloosh
The fact that the uber-woke crowd is as strong as ever tells me they’re not losers at all.
Arturo
No, this is not becoming planet 👑 one way or the other because what is counter nature won’t hold no matter how much it’s peddled.
David El Cid
Not true James.
Brett
James, you seem like the type that uses preferred pronouns in your Bio. Good for you.
Nanny Poppins
People who use words like “woke agenda” and “gayness” need to be spanked and put to bed, so the grownups can get back to work.
EhCanadian
It’s the 1980s all over again. Disney dumped their movie library on VHS, and families stopped going to the cinema. In response, they created the “Disney Vault” to limit home video availability, and families returned to the cinema (just in time for The Little Mermaid). Once again, Disney dumped their movie library on Disney+ and families once again stopped going to the cinema. Disney+ is destroying Disney. If Disney just licensed their movies to other streaming services, they could re-created the “vault” by limiting and timing licenses, and families would return to the cinema. If Disney just licensed to other streaming services, their Marvel shows could bring in revenue. Disney would be better off without Disney+, but they refuse to cut their loses.
Todd Hudson
How does that fix it. People would still wait to see it on streaming. Problem is the agenda putting it ahead of making good content with good stories. They are depending on sequels instead of new content, alienating fan bases to franchises, hire dei and agenda people to do things instead of people best for the job and it’s driving things into the ground. My boys could care less about star wars and marvel anymore and my daughter didn’t like new mermaid or wish has become very disappointed in disney. All disney has done is divide fan bases have a race swapped mermaid changing lore in star wars changing characters in marvel. Im not saying not to have minority characters at the for front but make new content like Encanto andMoana those were probably the best they have made in awhile. You can call it woke agenda driven whatever I don’t care but it’s hurting the brand. It’s hurting all brands gaming industry is suffering from it as well. They need to tell these investment firms and such like wearebridge.com and others to f..k off give them the finger and be done with it
Don
The biggest pronlem with sreaming vs theatrical releases is that if you release a big potential blockbuster on streaming, youve already limited yourself on potential earnings. Say a movie like Infinity War would have been released on streaming, There is no way it would have made even a fraction of what it did in the theaters. You stream it for 29.99 a pop, a persons whole family (say 5-15 people) watches the movie. Versus that that same 10-15 people paying $10-15 per person. Do the math. Besides some movies need to be seen in the theater.
Mike
Streaming subscription fees are never going to replace national broadcast ad revenue or movie ticket revenue. You can’t offer a household unlimited content for the price of one admission and turn a profit. Streaming is a flawed model.
Arturo
A business in the hands of ideological (Marxist/post Marxist) fanatics and their brainwashed, pandering Useful Fools convinced that they are on a sort of Jihad where blowing up themselves up economically is worthy…
Nanny Poppins
Go back to the cellar. Don’t make me get my taser.
Trent
Stop pandering and make good shows. This is the biggest problem. Pandering to a segment of society that don’t even care thar much for action movies,comic books and the such. The amount women that do like that isn’t enough to run the industry. No female centered project was a hit. You had a formula and your arrogance got in your way.
Bgreyloc
I think one of the biggest problems is the misinterpretation or misuse of the word woke. Bringing public awareness to social injustice is all the word woke is supposed to mean it doesn’t mean we need gay couples, gay characters or all-inclusive nationalities in every single story that’s ever published. Write a good story if the opportunity presents itself to bring out a good tasteful gay character that’s not trying to screw everything on the screen, then input it, but otherwise the world is predominantly straight. Therefore, most stories should include straightness. Nobody hates gays except when everybody gay is trying to make all the straights gay
Bgreyloc
I think one of the biggest problems is the misinterpretation or misuse of the word woke. Bringing public awareness to social injustice is all the word woke is supposed to mean it doesn’t mean we need gay couples, gay characters or all-inclusive nationalities in every single story that’s ever published. Write a good story if the opportunity presents itself to bring out a good tasteful gay character that’s not trying to screw everything on the screen, then input it, but otherwise the world is predominantly straight. Therefore, most stories should include straightness. Nobody hates gays except when everybody gay is trying to make all the straights gay
Kungaloosh
No one is trying to convert straight people. If anything, you got it backwards. The gay community is merely trying to peacefully coexist with straight people without the alt-right religious fanatics trying to round them up and send them to conversion camps, or creating laws that stifle their civil rights. If you change a few words around, your argument could just as easily apply to religion: No one hates Christians until they want to make everyone Christian and dominate the landscape with their agenda.
Todd Hudson
That’s the lie you have fallen for today. Yes they are eccentric people out there but that happens on every side of things. Most are just angry that I have to see more and more and more in my media. I don’t hate gay people I have alot of gay friends and nearly 2/3 of them feel alot of this mess in entertainment and media has gone to far and blown up
Kungaloosh
I also have gay friends and 100 percent of them are happy to see people like them represented in Hollywood.
John
I love the Chapek gimmick. He wasn’t there long enough to drive fundamental change. He simply rolled out projects/transformations in the works when Iger was there. What a scam this is pretending he’s fixing stuff from Chapek when everybody knows he had a lot of control the whole time on top of it.
Nana
Go back to the basics. Stop pandering and apologizing. Stop over sexualizing childrens content and stay in your lane and out of politics. The rest will work itself out if you do.
Ryan bulger
I think they would have more viewers if they returned everything that was removed from disney plus and add everything that disney owns the rights to on the streaming service and dont remove stuff anymore because that’s one thing that can potentially upset consumers, and you could even return the stuff that didn’t work out like the willow TV show I really wanted to watch it and I was looking forward to seeing it but it was not on disney plus when I subscribed to it I really hope it gets put back on so I can get a chance to watch it
DL
Some other folks have said it, the Alphabet Mafia is running the asylum. I understand that gays exist and they are welcome to live their lives however they see fit because this is America. However what about the rest of the 93-97% of us who just want to be entertained? Why does sexuality which is a small part of the human existence and race keep taking center stage instead of good story telling? You can certainly do both, but evidently Disney and other companies can’t seem to do it. It’s forced and it’s obvious. Netflix put out an Ark for 14 year old kids. In the opening minutes people were killed brutally and the main character who was a paleontologist was also a lesbian kissing her girlfriend. You can have strong female characters without making the men caricatures of real life. Men built everything you can see and humanity did just fine for thousands of years before you relegated manhood to the dustbin of history and elevated feminism and homosexuality to the extent that young people would rather use the litter box than receive an education and join civilized society. Many would argue that this start at home and they would be right but when middle and upper class families have two working parents and the tv and cell phone raises the kids is it any wonder that the world is a mess. Disney grew to its present size because out of all the media companies it stood for wholesome family entertainment. It’s obvious that it no longer does and nobody has stepped into that vacuum. As a father I shouldn’t have to sift every form of entertainment to make sure my kids aren’t being exposed to things I don’t want them to. There used to be accountability from the top down. Now we don’t have that and parents have to be the thought police as well as the parent. It’s exhausting
Dave
Disney plus is awesome
Aron
Most people here in the comments section understand the reason. Call it what you want but don’t without the hate. Simple truth is the majority of the fan bases for Disney’s highest earners are straight males. Race, gender and sexuality aside. This is your biggest downfall. All female superhero casts can work if they are in fact original characters. When you gender swap a role you lose a fanbase that has followed that comic or otherwise character sometimes for decades. This applies across all properties. The same will also always happen when you change a characters sexuality. Not because people are homophobic but mostly because the stories that have been written for years and often those fans whole lives are based in that characters original sexuality. You may gain a few people but you will lose tens of thousands. The same is true with race. However there is an acceptance to that rule. Don’t change the origin path to the characters story arch. Such as how they received their powers or family settings or traumas that shaped and molded who they are or why they operate the way that they do. They never follow that rule though so it becomes an issue. For the same reason no one wants a white black panther fans not just white, struggle with a random white character as a different ethnicity. Because that is what they know. Stick with the original writings and characters like you started with and you’ll see that same success. Also when you alienate families by hyper sexualized content you lose household audiences. Those are the subscribers your missing. You want to be in homes everywhere make the content that is suitable for all families. You want to own the box office again bring back the stories and build the new characters that those fans remember and you’ll succeed. Most importantly if you want everyone to hear what you have to say then you must be willing to listen to every voice not just the loudest.
Cheryl
Please get rid of the woke content………
Kungaloosh
Such as? Give examples.
Donald
The D+ should be easy to use. It is not. Why have 3 individual apps that are cluttered? Why not have 1 app? Include ABC as a streaming channel. Get back to the Disney channel. Have an ESPN channel where the primetime game is aired. The ESPN app is horrible. Monday night football is ruined for me. Just make it simple. Not one person I know likes navigating through these endless menus in the streaming apps.
Lesley
It’s not woke you need igor but to wake up your losing it if you think your latest movies and shows are to go by because they stink to high heaven. Bring back successful films and programmes like johnny Depp in potc and two kings not your rubbish on the channels and big screens because Disney is going downhill and extremely stupid Walt and Roy must be spinning in their graves due to what your doing to there company at least they listened and respected their public now what we want doesn’t Matt
Sam Smith
Let’s go back and see all the lies.
One truth, Go Woke, Go Broke.
Jeff
Iger is an idiot. Thats the problem. Of course you are going to lose billions if you creat shows and movies for billions then scrap them. The service is not the problem. He is!!! If you are woke, you are a fucking joke!!
Paul W
Personally. I would feel the channel much more worthwhile if they added the older classic shows. Things that were shown on Vault Disney or Wonderful World of Disney before streaming became a thing.
Stephen
Don’t quite understand all this ‘woke’ stuff, but I think Iger is right.
Movie studios should concentrate on making good original pictures not constant spinoffs.
There will always be an audience for well written decent entertainment.
Faye
Yes! Exactly that. Get back to what they do best.
Faye
To me Disney represents all the great movies I grew up with. Not gay they didn’t have wonderful cartoons, but what I think of first is always Cinderella, The Little Mermaid, The Great Mouse Detective, Snow White, and all of those other really awesome movies like Meet the Robinson’s or Wall-e. Not the streaming service and certainly not the crappy live action remakes. Disney needs to get back to doing what it does best!
Spike Pecan
I had a Disney+ subscription from the start of the service for my middle-school & high school aged kids, but cancelled more than a year ago after tiring of the substandard content.
The classic catalog movies will always be great, but the new content (esp. Star Wars and Marvel) was really poor. Without much complaint, my kids have moved on to other IPs, and I’ve never reconsidered my decision.
Sorry, Bob, but you know the old saw: a day late and a dollar short.
Michael
He is doing gas lighting at its finest
I’ve never seen such blatant disregard for facts
Jonathan
Who gives a f about Disney. Like Kodak, they’re a failed mammoth
MattFromPAA
If you create crap content that people don’t want to watch or pay for, what do you expect? A lot less Kathleen Kennedy and Kevin Feige (i.e. FIRE THEM!) and more Jon Favreau and even George Lucas if you want to put Disney+ in the black.
Knightguard
Feige, has done a whole lot of good for Disney as the head of Marvel, there will always be some problems, and I agree that this and the previous hasn’t been good. Now regarding Star Wars, I agree with you all the way.
Derek Hermank
I clearly have no idea how any of this works, but it seems to me that it should be relatively easy to figure out how to generate profits or, at the very least, to maintain a pretty considerable sum of money: if there are 150 million subscribers and they pay about 20 bucks each (I realize there are tier pricing, but that’s for you to figure out), that comes out to about 3 BILLION dollars! That’s not really a horrible sum. If one cannot figure out how to use 3 Billion dollars, then the issue may not be on the service. Again, this is an extreme oversimplification, but 3 Billion dollars IS 3 Billion dollars!
Chris Hansen
Amen!
Goofy
I cancelled yesterday.. sorry Mikey
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Billza
There is a reason people left cable for streaming, so stop trying to turn it back into cable
Laurie
Here’s an idea Bob. Stop the woke agenda! We aren’t subjecting our kids or ourselves to that crap anymore
Dlsn
Normal people don’t care about “woke agenda” conspiracies. They care that there used to be one good streaming source, and now there’s a dozen mediocre streaming sources. Kind of like when they tried to turn Napster into a paid download service as if everyone just wanted to use a service called Napster, and the free music was just some fringe benefit.
Steve
So you are saying that you don’t want your kids to be kind, caring and inclusive? Maybe you’re part of the problem with the woke agenda.
Carlos Merced
Disney has gone the way of the Edsel! It couldn’t happen to a more deserving company…
Steve
Here’s a thought Bob. Just make entertaining content, without the need for political messaging. You need to understand that Disney are not the arbiters of what is politically correct content. Rewind 10 years and make content people want to watch.
Antisnowflake
Laurie no one cares either way. At least normal ppl don’t care. U really triggered by non white stuff?
Teresa Spanics
I still have my Disney Plus as I believe that Disney will get better. Disney has to ask fans what they want to see in terms of movies and TV shows. Many fans have written fanfiction that can be the basis for movies and TV shows.
Ryan W
I think Bob’s absolutely right to combine Disney+ with Hulu and ESPN. The streaming network choices eventually are going to shake narrow groups out. They will need audiences from bigger streamers like NetFlix or Amazon.
Mick
People don’t want to watch garbage ..Shows like Daredevil & the Punisher were great on Netflix ..That’s how they should be making shows on Disney+ instead of constantly pushing DEI ..Just stick to the source material..we bought the comics because we loved them not to be lectured to ..Marvel seem determined to entertain a very small minority at the expense of a very large majority & it’s costing them billion
Lilia
I have a subscription and enjoy it. Its entertainment people not rocket science good grief what a bunch of whiney whiners
Jonathan
Supposedly Woke Agendas…
What!?
The DEI stuff is right in front of you, with no trying of making it make sense.
The lack of story writing & ignoring the Fans “they’re the ones who pays your bills, by consuming”.
Who are the type of people who paved the road to what need culture is, yet you wanna ignore the male voice, or the fact the person is a white male… “I’m brown skinned” & dont feel like I can’t relate to Anakin Skywalker because he’s white, what a bigot way of thinking that is..
Wake up Disney, you’re gonna burn yourself down while you make a female Pirates movie…. that sounds engaging & Solid… a female pirate what the….
Woke
Elon Musk said: “Go f yourself, hi Bob!”
Chris Hansen
Go woke go broke. Any idiot can see that Disney crapped int he mess kit and is earning their reward. I used to respect Disney, thought they did professional work, but they screwed up John Carter royally and have gone downhill since. Now that Disney discovered wokeness they only produce garbage. Who wants to pay for propaganda when you can have shoved down your throat for free?
Entertainment is for, guess what, ENTERTAINMENT, not woke garbage! Piss off your customers and they will go somewhere else; or won’t bother to look in the first place.
There are lots of choices out there. Disney isn’t one of them.
Gerry
People are bagging on the new Star Wars when I don’t think it’s half bad. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt on the Acolyte until I see it.
Marvel blew it’s wad on Endgame and instead of building a series of movies like the pre-Endgame set, they’re trying to hit Billion dollar paydays on every one.
Also, someone tell Brea Larson to STFU.
Daryl-Rhys
Still the best streaming service for content. Its new stuff is far better than the competitors.
Don't worry, be happy
Someone please explain to me, clarify in detail if you can. What is this woke stuff that you are complaining about. I can’t put my finger on anything to complain about. I’m very happy with my service. I think hulu is a real plus and there’s lots of good stuff to watch. Why in the world would I want to complain and be miserable, I have to say I feel really good about being happy and enjoying the service.. But again, I will ask. Please clarify what is making your day so miserable that disney is doing to you.. WOKE?!!!
Kungaloosh
They’re regurgitating a manufactured definition of “woke” that was created in the echo chamber of the Truth Social and Fox News contingent of society and then spoon-fed to their followers, and it’s far removed from the original definition of woke, which simply means being aware of social injustice and striving for inclusiveness and representation for all lifestyles and cultures. They’re now perpetuating this absurd bastardization of the real definition, which puts forth the idea that wokeness is a way for the gay community to indoctrinate young children into a sexualized lifestyle and use Disney as a tool toward this goal.
You have a refreshingly healthy attitude. Keep enjoying your streaming services, misery-free.
James
Disney needs to focus its time on writing quality movies like it once used to and not on live action movies – Monsters Inc. , A Bug’s Life, Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs etc. These are timeless classics. No one asked for a live action reimagining and no one asked for there to be changes done so that you pander to a small minority. Stop altering great story plots to try and appease a small vocal minority, it’s ridiculous
Pepe
Go Mikey
Pepe
Mikey for president and vip goofy and border patrol Joe
Dingus McFlingus
Who is Mikey??
Tee Li Yee
Just bring back Disney Channel, Junior and XD back into our southeast Asian TVs: astro! Although we wanted a new Pixar series!! It’s full of emotions. 😉
Tee Li Yee
Oh my gosh wrong comment.
Kungaloosh
Mikey is the kid from the classic Life cereal commercials of the 1970s, but I suspect Pepe just misspelled “Mickey.” Call it a hunch.
Gordon McRae
They lost my subscription when they quit focusing on family programming and stepped into politics.
Dodger
That’s exactly when they gained my subscription. Politics is way cooler than families.
Richard Rando
Keep Disney+ as I have several grand children and they love Disney+. They will watch this nonstop. If you shut it down the children will greatly miss it.
Josh
I have a 2 and 4 yr old who only know Disney. They simply so not know about another channel. Thanks to Disney+…the future is bright! You are building you’re next generation of super fans…their just not old enough to spend the money yet. Patience….
Alen
Too bad Bob Iger doesn’t want to fess up to the fact that his woke policies is whats costing Disney billions in losses.
Uncle Remus
Because it’s not. Disney stock has improved nearly 50% under his watch, up over 25% YTD.
He is trimming fat awaiting another Frozen-type success
One who actually pays attention
That is because of the proxy fight. Everyone that actually pays attention to finance knows this
John Harris
Because yall spend 64million to make 8 episodes and release them weekly instead of all at once then wait 3 years to drop season 2 that’s why Disney + is in the toilet after 3 years to make the show
Danny
I will NOT support a streaming service from Disney that includes R-Rated content, or Sports.
Lou Ann
Disney+ has been a good channel for the last year and I enjoyed it but because of the prices we had to drop it
Dave
I love Disney Plus
Cody Jarrett
I don’t think it has anything to do with Disney, but Bluey is the best show available anywhere in the streaming world.
John
Iger is a moron. He cannot see the forest for the trees. There are plenty of opportunities to be made with the platform that are clearly being ignored for either political reasons or sheer ignorance. He is supporting 3 separate platforms and their infrastructure along with expenses for the s3 buckets under them and the IT support continued software development marketing etc instead of migrating them under the single umbrella of Disney and there is no end insight. A substantial amount of people either share or left the platform for various reasons, either protest over cost hikes or politically backed policies that Disney has been quite vocal about. If he truly wanted to make money he should focus on making money not partnering with one side or the other politically. The purpose of his business is entertainment not social justice or change. People go to entertainment to escape those realities of life. THAT is where the money is. THAT is what Walt sought to do all those years ago…provide an escape from reality.
Kungaloosh
People also want to see themselves represented occasionally in the entertainment they seek out for escapism. That’s not politics. It’s just inclusiveness.
Steve
No they don’t. Representation does not matter in Hollywood. It’s not Congress. If not having representation in Hollywood is equivalent of taxation without representation then call me His Royal Majesty, King George III. Maybe those groups and “victims” who think Hollywood has “marginalized” them through history can go off and start their own separate studios.
Cláudio
Desculpe a resposta em português, favor traduzir… A alma de Walt Disney está em filmes como Branca de Neve, Pinochio ou Cinderela e a essência desses filmes é justiça social e filosofia de um mundo justo e melhor. Os filmes não são só entretenimento e sim esperança, uma utopia de mundo ideial, ricos com mesmas possibilidades de pobres, o bem contra o mal, princesas e príncipe encantado – a essência da Disney – são apenas entretenimento? Não… Walt Disney nos apresentava um mundo justo, “democrático”, participativo e ideal… E assim é hoje, décadas depois, nos filmes atuais que representam os debates sociais atuais tal qual eram os debates da década de 30 e 40 do século passado. Obviamente há um comportamento político que todos insistem em rotular, mas isso sempre teve e a “vida que segue”!
Deborah
I’m 72 years old, my daughter is 40, and my grandson is 16. We all enjoy Disney+ very much, as there’s something for everyone. The streaming platform would have difficulty competing with Netflix, however, as it contains lots of foreign content. Disney+ is different, obviously. We love all the fantasy programs, including Marvel especially, and I love the Nat Geo shows. Loki was fantastic!
We wouldn’t mind R rated content as we’re an older household, but please, no sports (ugh)! Parents of younger children would simply set up parental controls.
Keep it coming, Disney!
Deborah Goofy
Sports are taking over, movies and TV shows are dying. Get with the times
Ray
I would not subscribe to Disney+ or go to Disney park for the reason for being supportive of “woke” agenda. Disney was founded on “family entertainment” and they strayed away from that by supporting political agenda that contradicts family entertainment – period.
Uncle Bob
Disney has always supported family first politicians, until the Republican Party of Florida and their Senate leadership decided they knew what is best for Florida families and not parents.
Kungaloosh
Explain how “woke” contradicts family entertainment. I’m curious to hear what YOUR definition of woke is, because the REAL definition has no impact on family entertainment – period.
Dave
I love Disney Plus
Jon
Disney+ was a terrible idea from the get go. They should have just licensed out their IP for brief periods of time to like Netflix someone. Then it could have been a special Disney event. All they did was spend billions and water down their IP to where it’s almost valueless. This was totally FOMO.
Jaybro
Disney keeps upping the prices on their products every year it seems. And now they shove commercials down our throats to make a subscription more “budget friendly.” That isn’t a way to get new subscribers. People also want to binge entire seasons of shows. If we wanted weekly episodes we would go back to cable. Bring back where you could rent the movies that are new releases.
Phil
Disney+ is a great idea and we have been watching a lot of content on Disney+ over the last few years. Now, just a few years since its release it is more than double the original annual cost. For a lot of people it is not a sustainable cost to be putting out even although there is a vast amount of movies, programmes and behind the scenes documentaries to enjoy. It’s really pushing a lot of people out of the Disney way of life! Something serious needs to happen!
Niko
First step in fixing a problem is recognizing you have one. Good job, Mr. Iger.
Tee Li Yee
Just bring back Disney Channel, Junior and XD back into our southeast Asian TVs: astro! Although we wanted a new Pixar series!! It’s full of emotions. 😉
Jason
It serves them right for wasting SO much money on shows that may or may not be popular. I’ve been with them since the beginning, and I’m still hoping they add all of the Walt Era content sooner than later. That would cost them very little in comparison.
Bob
Cancelled my subscription a while back due to the fact most of the classics were never released on the streaming service. My understanding was that eventually everything in the vault would be available to stream but apparently I was wrong… Back to DVDs for me…
Dave
I love Disney Plus
Merv Griffin
Aww cry me a river. You and your ilk decided to “disrupt” the traditional broadcast model years ago in favor of Netflix’s cheap subscription formula only to later realize it’s not viable, so you then pull back and decimate the entire industry in the process, and now you’re losing billions every year? Good. I have no sympathy for monopolies or corporate greed. Go suck an egg, Bobby.
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