I mean, I am… But, from what I’ve seen, a lot of these “old schoolers” don’t really know the franchises they claim to be fans of and almost never do research.
There will always be snowflakes and haters pointlessly complaining about wokeness when they don’t even have a clue about the source material. This is just more proof of that. Also, Julia Garner just plain rocks in everything she does.
Look, I was raised with Norin Rad as the surfer, but ever report I have come across states alternate deminsion, which means there could have been a female surfer, plus they did introduce the character that is to be their first surfer, remember they eventually will come to the 616. So quit being a chauvinist when things have the female character. I had an issue when Marvel went with Carol Danvers and people threw a fit. That shows how chauvinistic some of us can be. It isn’t fully the purists.
I do wish everyone a pleasant day and ask that you wait till the movie is finished and released l, give your opinion by watching before judging. That is how several good films have not made money because of prejudging a film before it is even released.
What doesn’t have a role appropriated by females these days. That is what we are sick of. Women ARE NOT as fast strong or physically capable as a whole – TRUTH. We are tired of women/gay/woke having to invade and take over EVERY space. And that is why this movie WILL bomb. Ignore the base audience and expect to crash and burn!
Mary Read, Anne Bonny, Zheng Yi Sao, Alex Morgan, Chris Evert, Serena Williams, Lindsey Vonn and Joan of Arc would like to have a word with you , Walt.
If only the other male pirates could have claimed the ‘with child’ defense to avoid the noose. And Serena might be as good as the lowest third of men’s college top singles. But…this being a comic book adaptation, anything is possible since nature is thrown out the window.
The base audience for a comic book movie is comic book fans. And you really should check the demographics on the people who make up the fandom. So if you’re talking about a general audience instead of a base audience, you really need to take a look a general population. Half of the population are women. And 10% identity as gay. And that’s conservatively. So that’s 55% of the population you’re tired of% Also do you realize how dumb people sound when the use the term “woke” as an insult? To be woke is to be compassionate and empathetic to pain or trauma that someone you don’t identify with is experiencing, while also being intelligent enough to discern the situation and brave enough to change it. So if you’re not woke then you are not caring, kind, wise or brave. Think about what the opposites of those words are…
So if you boycott the movie because of The Silver Surfer is not living up to your ideal, it has nothing to do with wokeism or protecting the Creator’s vision (Obviously you know nothing of the source material, because there has been a female Silver Surfer existing since the early 1980s) but it has to do more with short-sightedness, bigotry and misogyny.
Yes, allowing marginalized groups to be represented in media that previously wouldn’t let them be is the equivalent to suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. 🙄
There was no problem with using Carol Danvers the problem was Bre Larson ‘s mouth. She made stupid statements that alienated the primary fans. Don’t gloss over it as chauvinistic behavior.
Really? This is something to be up in arms about? Isn’t there a female Silver Surfer too? Any what does it matter? Doesn’t a Silver Surfer inherit the power cosmic when it becomes the last of it’s kind to serve as a herald for Galactus. If that’s a case then who cares what gender it is. I mean, if you think about it, what good is sex if there’s nothing left to procreate. As far as the dude who said something about women not being as physically strong as men…. wtf does that have to do with comic books … You know what else doesn’t happen… flight, developing extraordinary powers when you hit puberty, and if you get hit with a high of radiation or bit by a spider that has irradiated venom, your not going to change in a green giant when you get mad or be able to scramble up vertical walls. The only power your likely to get is death from cancer. Besides, I’m only a casual reader of comics, and I have never ever seen the surfer throw a punch… So, really what does it matter if it’s a man or a woman?
They are not fans. Fans do not force content creators to limit all content to their personal political tripe. Stop giving them platforms to tear down actual creators. Just be happy it isn’t exactly the same thing you already experienced.
Exactly. We’re in the multiverse now, anything goes. All comics, Marvel and DC, were so male centric(white male, mostly, with very few exceptions), it’s refreshing to see a mix of strong female characters, and characters of color, AND the old guard. Variety is the spice of life.
There was no problem with using Carol Danvers the problem was Bre Larson ‘s mouth. She made stupid statements that alienated the primary fans. Don’t gloss over it as chauvinistic behavior.
Brie Larson made perfectly acceptable statements about the need for diversity in media, and any fans that felt alienated by them should put on their grownup pants or go find a safe space.
If we took women out of movies, or media in general, we would have to use a man to play characters like Wonder WoMAN and Black Widow lol. The same would apply to stuff from countries like Japan.
Sounds like Paddie is disappointed that his collection of naughty X-rated movies is too overloaded with women. His preferences are very…ahem…particular.
Eh, I do kinda wish they would find existing female characters to make strong compelling stories about. Every time they do this it’s like saying all existing female characters are hot garbage compared to their male counterparts…
As a long time Marvel fan I will see this movie, but I refuse to pay for anything Disney does that has an agenda. From what I recall this is a real character and it seems like they are using her real name and not Norin. At the same time this character was killed in the same book she got her powers. So unless they want to introduce her just to immediately kill her off, why would I want to watch a movie where the villan barely existed. I had high hopes for this movie too. Just makes me wonder how they’ll screw up X-Men.
I don’t know why people are upset, it’s not the first time they’ve cast a woman to play a male character, for example, Captain Marvel was always a man in the comics but they cast a woman to play the character. I don’t see the problem, we need more female representation in movies
Comments for Fans Bash Disney, “Gender-Swaps” Iconic 58-Year-Old Character
Steamboat Willie
Little do these mfs know, Earth 829 exists 👀
Matt
Little mfs like you doesn’t know most marvel fans are old schoolers you probably a kid
Steamboat Willie
I mean, I am… But, from what I’ve seen, a lot of these “old schoolers” don’t really know the franchises they claim to be fans of and almost never do research.
Cowboy Samurai
This movie will crash and burn harder than the last FF reboot.
Parker
You lost all credibility when you posted anything from Nick Adams
Kungaloosh
There will always be snowflakes and haters pointlessly complaining about wokeness when they don’t even have a clue about the source material. This is just more proof of that. Also, Julia Garner just plain rocks in everything she does.
Knightguard
Look, I was raised with Norin Rad as the surfer, but ever report I have come across states alternate deminsion, which means there could have been a female surfer, plus they did introduce the character that is to be their first surfer, remember they eventually will come to the 616. So quit being a chauvinist when things have the female character. I had an issue when Marvel went with Carol Danvers and people threw a fit. That shows how chauvinistic some of us can be. It isn’t fully the purists.
I do wish everyone a pleasant day and ask that you wait till the movie is finished and released l, give your opinion by watching before judging. That is how several good films have not made money because of prejudging a film before it is even released.
Walt
What doesn’t have a role appropriated by females these days. That is what we are sick of. Women ARE NOT as fast strong or physically capable as a whole – TRUTH. We are tired of women/gay/woke having to invade and take over EVERY space. And that is why this movie WILL bomb. Ignore the base audience and expect to crash and burn!
Steamboat Willie
Mary Read, Anne Bonny, Zheng Yi Sao, Alex Morgan, Chris Evert, Serena Williams, Lindsey Vonn and Joan of Arc would like to have a word with you , Walt.
Wokey Dwarf
More importantly, we’re talking about a fictional world of superheroes, where a person’s gender has no bearing on his/her strength, speed, etc.
Also, woke is the new Beatles. Bigger than Jesus. Get over it.
Mark
Excellent comment Steamboat 👍
Cutinhalvebyzurg
If only the other male pirates could have claimed the ‘with child’ defense to avoid the noose. And Serena might be as good as the lowest third of men’s college top singles. But…this being a comic book adaptation, anything is possible since nature is thrown out the window.
Steamboat Willie
Even if they use the ‘With Child’ defense, they’d still have to face the noose as “staying” is the postponement of an execution.
Darc
Shalla-Bal is an established character… if they’d said she was Norrin Radd I would understand people being upset…
EG
So sayeth the Mighty Walt.
Aaron
The base audience for a comic book movie is comic book fans. And you really should check the demographics on the people who make up the fandom. So if you’re talking about a general audience instead of a base audience, you really need to take a look a general population. Half of the population are women. And 10% identity as gay. And that’s conservatively. So that’s 55% of the population you’re tired of% Also do you realize how dumb people sound when the use the term “woke” as an insult? To be woke is to be compassionate and empathetic to pain or trauma that someone you don’t identify with is experiencing, while also being intelligent enough to discern the situation and brave enough to change it. So if you’re not woke then you are not caring, kind, wise or brave. Think about what the opposites of those words are…
So if you boycott the movie because of The Silver Surfer is not living up to your ideal, it has nothing to do with wokeism or protecting the Creator’s vision (Obviously you know nothing of the source material, because there has been a female Silver Surfer existing since the early 1980s) but it has to do more with short-sightedness, bigotry and misogyny.
Sam
Woke is fascism disguised as empathy. It must be destroyed
WishfulThinker
Yes, allowing marginalized groups to be represented in media that previously wouldn’t let them be is the equivalent to suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. 🙄
Bob
There was no problem with using Carol Danvers the problem was Bre Larson ‘s mouth. She made stupid statements that alienated the primary fans. Don’t gloss over it as chauvinistic behavior.
Steamboat Willie
The primary fans being white neckbeards…
Mark
Couldn’t agree more man, nicely said
Aaron
Really? This is something to be up in arms about? Isn’t there a female Silver Surfer too? Any what does it matter? Doesn’t a Silver Surfer inherit the power cosmic when it becomes the last of it’s kind to serve as a herald for Galactus. If that’s a case then who cares what gender it is. I mean, if you think about it, what good is sex if there’s nothing left to procreate. As far as the dude who said something about women not being as physically strong as men…. wtf does that have to do with comic books … You know what else doesn’t happen… flight, developing extraordinary powers when you hit puberty, and if you get hit with a high of radiation or bit by a spider that has irradiated venom, your not going to change in a green giant when you get mad or be able to scramble up vertical walls. The only power your likely to get is death from cancer. Besides, I’m only a casual reader of comics, and I have never ever seen the surfer throw a punch… So, really what does it matter if it’s a man or a woman?
Mark
Too true Knighguard ! They try to come across as purists, but many of these naysayers are showing themselves as being chauvinistic. Cheers
Emily
I mean galactus does have female messengers but silver was always a guy
Mark
Shalla Bal was a love interest of Norrin Radd, who gained some of his powers. A silver surfer variant, if you will. It’s not completely unprecedented.
Nico
They are not fans. Fans do not force content creators to limit all content to their personal political tripe. Stop giving them platforms to tear down actual creators. Just be happy it isn’t exactly the same thing you already experienced.
Mark
Exactly. We’re in the multiverse now, anything goes. All comics, Marvel and DC, were so male centric(white male, mostly, with very few exceptions), it’s refreshing to see a mix of strong female characters, and characters of color, AND the old guard. Variety is the spice of life.
Steamboat Willie
If we can have a pig and a car be Spiderman, we can have a diverse spidey
Bob
There was no problem with using Carol Danvers the problem was Bre Larson ‘s mouth. She made stupid statements that alienated the primary fans. Don’t gloss over it as chauvinistic behavior.
Kungaloosh
Brie Larson made perfectly acceptable statements about the need for diversity in media, and any fans that felt alienated by them should put on their grownup pants or go find a safe space.
Cari
I think it’s ridiculous. Always gender swapping. Stop already.
Paddie O'Furniture
Go woke, go broke. We don’t need women in movies!
Steamboat Willie
Yes. Yes we do.
Steamboat Willie
If we took women out of movies, or media in general, we would have to use a man to play characters like Wonder WoMAN and Black Widow lol. The same would apply to stuff from countries like Japan.
Wokey Dwarf
Sounds like Paddie is disappointed that his collection of naughty X-rated movies is too overloaded with women. His preferences are very…ahem…particular.
speckio
Galactus already has a female herald named frankie raye why not use her?
Dee
Eh, I do kinda wish they would find existing female characters to make strong compelling stories about. Every time they do this it’s like saying all existing female characters are hot garbage compared to their male counterparts…
Disney is dead and doesn't realize it
As a long time Marvel fan I will see this movie, but I refuse to pay for anything Disney does that has an agenda. From what I recall this is a real character and it seems like they are using her real name and not Norin. At the same time this character was killed in the same book she got her powers. So unless they want to introduce her just to immediately kill her off, why would I want to watch a movie where the villan barely existed. I had high hopes for this movie too. Just makes me wonder how they’ll screw up X-Men.
Dodger
How do you know BEFORE you’ve paid to see a movie if it has an agenda? LOL
Deanna
I don’t know why people are upset, it’s not the first time they’ve cast a woman to play a male character, for example, Captain Marvel was always a man in the comics but they cast a woman to play the character. I don’t see the problem, we need more female representation in movies
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