Here’s the real question over the last 10yrs there’s been more Big Screen as well as small screen failures that are directly failing due to the WOKENESS IDEOLOGIES , How much are they willing to lose ?
People of all ages just want a good exciting experience with people that know how to act and entertain the viewers .
Not someone that’s checks a box because the industry thinks DEI is what people want over being entertained.
Now don’t take my word for this failure,
Just looks at a companies P&L , look at there Stock Market history over a 5-10 yr trend .
The decline in viewership in all of the Entertainment Industry has been steadily declining, you would think this in it self would educate the people who run this industry this ideology has failed.
So what. It’s just a movie based on a comic book. These characters have been written, rewritten, killed off, resurrected, and changed over the years so much, I’m surprised Superman isn’t a bisexual, transgendered, Mexican, or Communist by this point. It’s just not a big deal. It won’t bankrupt the franchise, the studio or the economy. Worst case scenario, the movie is a flop. No big deal. I enjoy what I enjoy without the agendas on any side telling me otherwise. If Silver Silver becomes a Woman or if it’s a whole new character, I will give it a chance. MCU has already shown a multiverse. Are these people really saying that a Silver Surfer couldn’t be female in there? Silly thing to complain about since none of it is real.
I have no issue with them using a woman character but changing the surfer to female will suck. I enjoy powerful female characters but not at tge expense [f the beloved characters that are already there, just stop with the whinney ass feminist comments about these people think only white men should be inbthe films. We don’t all think that way as men thank-you very much.
Um…..Superboy is bisexual and Superman was communist in Red Son. This will be a crap fest, like the rest of all the other MCU films that have been released in last 5 years. I’m voting with my wallet and the studio will FEEL IT!!
As a woman, I hate it. I’m so sick of this whole “Woke” movement. As with Black, Asian and Hispanic characters, instead of fkn switching genders and ethnic backgrounds, CREATE them so they can be included, but stop ruining what’s already BEEN there. I agree with the comment that said, Marvel with eventually go bankrupt trying to be so damn woke. Just look at the mess that’s been Marvel since Endgame for starters. And look at who’s gonna be the “villain” in their most recent pic, The Marvels. Pathetic. Ugh I hope this isn’t true.
All of these characters have had multiple versions of themselves already. Written, killed off, rewritten, origin stories completely changed, rewritten and changed again. The idea that a Marvel character exists as just one thing and they aren’t an always changing character within a certain frame origin just shows your lack of being a fan and more about being concerned with predisposed biases and prejudices.
Get over it. There is no Woke Marvel. That’s ridiculous. No inserted agendas and who cares anyway because movies and stories and television have done this for ages.
Do you even know who Sarah Halley Finn is? She’s the casting mastermind since Iron Man. And she is flawless in her work. FLAW. LESS. They have not once disappointed with casting. People just can’t handle different. But guess what. Different is good. If you do different WELL. Give it a damn chance.
Or y’all lil band of babies need to scoot on somewhere. Your arguments are invalid in the world of Marvel. And Marvel is not a mess. Just like in the beginning they have had some misses and some massive successes. Y’all are all wrong. Sorry, not sorry. Bubble busted. 😁
No. Casting game of thrones wash outs and a bunch of annoying actors in the Eternals was not flawless. Casting Harry styles was not flawless. It was awful.
These people never learn. Eventually nobody will be watching these movies. I guess that’s their goal. The people they are catering to don’t support anything that requires money being spent and the hardcore fans keep getting ignored when we ask for less woke content. If losing money is their ultimate goal, they’re doing a fantastic job. No pun intended.
Just look at what they did to Thor. They turned him into a big goofy joke and some unremarkable woman took up the hammer. I gave up on marvel since that train wreck of a movie. It’s not just marvel. Almost everything Netflix puts out now is woke. Thank God I can go back and re-watch movies and shows because Almost everything stinks now💩😞
Because the anti-“woke” people BEHAVE like a mob and can’t even define what “woke” means. They just misuse it as a carch-all term for anything that is, in any way, inclusive and never have any idea what they’re talking about and have a mob mentality. The other people are just behaving like rational human beings with adult critical thinking skills while anti-“woke” lunatics are threatening employees with injury and death because the stores they work at carry shirts with rainbows on them and they believe 100% fake stories about Target carrying SaTaNiC clothing for kids, and they go around smashing supermarkets’ entire stocks of the wrong kind of beer because they’re so triggered by a company engaging in a marketing campaign with a trans person that had gone completely unnoticed by normal people who AREN’T obsessed so-called “woke ideology” and DON’T organize their entire lives around being offended every time someone from a marginalized community gets ANY opportunity. So, yeah. “Mob” is 100% appropriate.
I don’t really care who the Herald will be. Just don’t go switching up established characters just to please a small group of people as a large group will then be displeased. MAKE NEW CHARACTERS! Show some creativity for a change.
Congratulations on marvel trying to be inclusive! But to what extent? If you go through the marvel history of Galactus he has had multiple heralds some men some women.
I gave up on Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilms a looooong time ago. I’ll NEVER give them another penny of my money. The death of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones franchises were my final straw
I’ve read and collected comics from since the silver age and love the original Lee/Kirby characters but in all honesty, Nova as the fiery herald would look better and make more sense to a broader audience than some guy flying around on a surfboard in space called the Silver Surfer. Silly when you think about it. Maybe we can have the Cosmic Skateboarder next?
Silver Surfer, Galactic’s herald, at moment of eating Earth IS NORRIN RADD, a male military officer, who volunteered HIS SERVICE to Galactus in Exchange for sparing Radd’s home world consumption by Galactus.
BTW, summer 1968, Marvel first introduced Captain Marvel as male whose powers did not come to him until the Old Ones gave him the power cosmic, just a Radd received; but, Marvel was given strength of 10,000, indestructible and could wield the Power Cosmic ad no other. Did that include Galactus, I don’t remember.
If it’s Frankie Raye, that’s fine of course that it’s a female. If it’s the Silver Surfer, then it should be a man. I don’t care what color the actor is that plays him as long as they present him as silver and not white, black or any other color.
My only concern is when an iconic character is gender or race changed with no significant value added, that just seems gratuitous and actually demeans the concept of being diverse. Marvel has a rich enough character base and talented writers. Just switching genders or race is lazy
Stan Lee said “We live in a diverse society-in fact, a diverse world, and we must learn to live in peace and with respect for each other.” So I don’t think he’d have a problem with changing the gender of a superhero. If the story allows for it. Marvel is going to keep being inclusive because that’s the way the world we live in is, for the most part. And after all, it’s all make believe.
Maybe it’s Nova and Norrin Radd aka Silver Surfer will already be emancipated from Galactus. No one truly knows but anything to rouse the anti-sjws. Yep, using that because “woke” has been bastardized beyond all recognition
There is no problem with a female herald for Galactus. The problem is taking a male character like the Silver Surfer and making it a female role is the problem. If you want a female to be the herald pick one established in the comics history, ori don’t know be creative and make a new female herald
I have no problem with a female herald for Galactus as long as it’s Nova. If there is a female Silver Surfer I would definitely boycott the movie. As a comic purist I have to say there has been enough twisting of Marvel identities. Let’s get back to the original ideas of Stan Lee.
I wish the anti-woke mob, who are obsessed with their hatred and the Woke mob who are obsessed with being an object of hatred would just go away, forever and I don’t think I am alone in this, by any means.
I hope you realize a good chunk of Marvel mega fans have started crying.
This Polical Agenda needs to stop, we all want one thing to be entertained and tell great stories.
I’ve had enough, as an Independent author this will not the way.
No thanks, he’s a he not a she.
Kid’s don’t watch Marvel or Lucasfilm. It’s the adult’s.
I agree with one thing, way too many YouTuber think the louder they are someone will hear them. I’ve moved on.
I hope you realize a good chunk of Marvel mega fans have started crying.
This Polical Agenda needs to stop, we all want one thing to be entertained and tell great stories.
I’ve had enough, as an Independent author this will not the way.
No thanks, he’s a he not a she.
Kid’s don’t watch Marvel or Lucasfilm. It’s the adult’s.
I agree with one thing, way too many YouTuber think the louder they are someone will hear them. I’ve moved on.
Silver Surfer and fantastic 4 goes together well. Norrin Radd was a man according to comic book and it should stay that way. Its crazy whats happening. Soon we will have X – Them or worse. But such is fate of all things created by directors with so called ‘VISION’. They changed cpt Marvel.from.man to woman as well. I miss good old days when things were simple and accurately based on the original material.
It’s annoying they constantly change male characters into female, it’s me wonder why they can’t just create new female characters. If they silver surfer, then I hope they don’t give the same treatment they did for Taskmaster in the Black Window MCU. Hopefully the Silver Surfer isn’t crap, and I hope it isn’t.
Because Seven of Nine boosted ratings of Star Trek Voyager. Silver surfer doesn’t wear clothes. We can see why they want it to be a female, to attract the neckbeard simps.
Anti-woke mouth breathers that haven’t read comics, and it shows. One of Galactus’ main heralds is a woman known as Nova. Typical uneducated faux outrage, nothing more.
The problem with inclusion is it obviously also excludes. That is something that is not explored or considered with modern wokeism. Especially when you see a larger percentage of the population excluded by down playing their importance which is visible because companies decide to push such narratives. What you do is limit your target audience and it does not matter which side of the spectrum you consider yourself, in the end you lose fiscally because of it.
I don’t think it’s mysoginistic to want film adaptations of characters to stay the same sex they were written or racist for them to stay the same race. There are plenty of characters to go around after all.
To steal from Southparks Panderverse episode, Kathleen Kennedy character wants all the MCU characters to be,”make them a woman, make them gay, and make them lame!” And that’s exactly what we’ll get.😬
Comments for Anti-Woke Mob Criticizes Marvel for Silver Surfer Casting Choice
Waffen
Its gonna bomb, just cuz the whole industry is cracked
KMAN
Here’s the real question over the last 10yrs there’s been more Big Screen as well as small screen failures that are directly failing due to the WOKENESS IDEOLOGIES , How much are they willing to lose ?
People of all ages just want a good exciting experience with people that know how to act and entertain the viewers .
Not someone that’s checks a box because the industry thinks DEI is what people want over being entertained.
Now don’t take my word for this failure,
Just looks at a companies P&L , look at there Stock Market history over a 5-10 yr trend .
The decline in viewership in all of the Entertainment Industry has been steadily declining, you would think this in it self would educate the people who run this industry this ideology has failed.
Davrotu72
So what. It’s just a movie based on a comic book. These characters have been written, rewritten, killed off, resurrected, and changed over the years so much, I’m surprised Superman isn’t a bisexual, transgendered, Mexican, or Communist by this point. It’s just not a big deal. It won’t bankrupt the franchise, the studio or the economy. Worst case scenario, the movie is a flop. No big deal. I enjoy what I enjoy without the agendas on any side telling me otherwise. If Silver Silver becomes a Woman or if it’s a whole new character, I will give it a chance. MCU has already shown a multiverse. Are these people really saying that a Silver Surfer couldn’t be female in there? Silly thing to complain about since none of it is real.
Bane
Superman: Red Son
Psiwave
Even better introduce nova as current herald followed by silver surfer as former herald. Opens up great cinema for back story on both.
D
I have no issue with them using a woman character but changing the surfer to female will suck. I enjoy powerful female characters but not at tge expense [f the beloved characters that are already there, just stop with the whinney ass feminist comments about these people think only white men should be inbthe films. We don’t all think that way as men thank-you very much.
MARVEL Faithful
Um…..Superboy is bisexual and Superman was communist in Red Son. This will be a crap fest, like the rest of all the other MCU films that have been released in last 5 years. I’m voting with my wallet and the studio will FEEL IT!!
Blackstar
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Vivi
As a woman, I hate it. I’m so sick of this whole “Woke” movement. As with Black, Asian and Hispanic characters, instead of fkn switching genders and ethnic backgrounds, CREATE them so they can be included, but stop ruining what’s already BEEN there. I agree with the comment that said, Marvel with eventually go bankrupt trying to be so damn woke. Just look at the mess that’s been Marvel since Endgame for starters. And look at who’s gonna be the “villain” in their most recent pic, The Marvels. Pathetic. Ugh I hope this isn’t true.
TJ
All of these characters have had multiple versions of themselves already. Written, killed off, rewritten, origin stories completely changed, rewritten and changed again. The idea that a Marvel character exists as just one thing and they aren’t an always changing character within a certain frame origin just shows your lack of being a fan and more about being concerned with predisposed biases and prejudices.
Dave
Get over it. There is no Woke Marvel. That’s ridiculous. No inserted agendas and who cares anyway because movies and stories and television have done this for ages.
Do you even know who Sarah Halley Finn is? She’s the casting mastermind since Iron Man. And she is flawless in her work. FLAW. LESS. They have not once disappointed with casting. People just can’t handle different. But guess what. Different is good. If you do different WELL. Give it a damn chance.
Or y’all lil band of babies need to scoot on somewhere. Your arguments are invalid in the world of Marvel. And Marvel is not a mess. Just like in the beginning they have had some misses and some massive successes. Y’all are all wrong. Sorry, not sorry. Bubble busted. 😁
Blackstar
👍👍👍👍
Johnf
No. Casting game of thrones wash outs and a bunch of annoying actors in the Eternals was not flawless. Casting Harry styles was not flawless. It was awful.
Debby
Nope. Will not see it. Done with woke..
Pavel
Please define “woke.”
MARVEL Faithful
I agree
Flash
This is a well thought out response. Thank you.
Chris B
ITM calling those against wokeness a “mob” when the ones that are in favor they arent labeled a mob.
Matt Batista
These people never learn. Eventually nobody will be watching these movies. I guess that’s their goal. The people they are catering to don’t support anything that requires money being spent and the hardcore fans keep getting ignored when we ask for less woke content. If losing money is their ultimate goal, they’re doing a fantastic job. No pun intended.
Ureadingus
Just look at what they did to Thor. They turned him into a big goofy joke and some unremarkable woman took up the hammer. I gave up on marvel since that train wreck of a movie. It’s not just marvel. Almost everything Netflix puts out now is woke. Thank God I can go back and re-watch movies and shows because Almost everything stinks now💩😞
Pavel
Because the anti-“woke” people BEHAVE like a mob and can’t even define what “woke” means. They just misuse it as a carch-all term for anything that is, in any way, inclusive and never have any idea what they’re talking about and have a mob mentality. The other people are just behaving like rational human beings with adult critical thinking skills while anti-“woke” lunatics are threatening employees with injury and death because the stores they work at carry shirts with rainbows on them and they believe 100% fake stories about Target carrying SaTaNiC clothing for kids, and they go around smashing supermarkets’ entire stocks of the wrong kind of beer because they’re so triggered by a company engaging in a marketing campaign with a trans person that had gone completely unnoticed by normal people who AREN’T obsessed so-called “woke ideology” and DON’T organize their entire lives around being offended every time someone from a marginalized community gets ANY opportunity. So, yeah. “Mob” is 100% appropriate.
Duke
I don’t really care who the Herald will be. Just don’t go switching up established characters just to please a small group of people as a large group will then be displeased. MAKE NEW CHARACTERS! Show some creativity for a change.
William Bollman
Congratulations on marvel trying to be inclusive! But to what extent? If you go through the marvel history of Galactus he has had multiple heralds some men some women.
AH
Enter the Panderverse. Southpark is about to spear the fish.
John Strika
I gave up on Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilms a looooong time ago. I’ll NEVER give them another penny of my money. The death of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones franchises were my final straw
Roger
I’ve read and collected comics from since the silver age and love the original Lee/Kirby characters but in all honesty, Nova as the fiery herald would look better and make more sense to a broader audience than some guy flying around on a surfboard in space called the Silver Surfer. Silly when you think about it. Maybe we can have the Cosmic Skateboarder next?
Supkem
Or a Black Racer…
Rteker
As long as they don’t make the Silver Surfer female, then it’s fine as Galactus did have several heralds and one was indeed a woman
Allan Robert Lee
Silver Surfer, Galactic’s herald, at moment of eating Earth IS NORRIN RADD, a male military officer, who volunteered HIS SERVICE to Galactus in Exchange for sparing Radd’s home world consumption by Galactus.
BTW, summer 1968, Marvel first introduced Captain Marvel as male whose powers did not come to him until the Old Ones gave him the power cosmic, just a Radd received; but, Marvel was given strength of 10,000, indestructible and could wield the Power Cosmic ad no other. Did that include Galactus, I don’t remember.
Pufnstuff
Just admit you know nothing at all about Mar-Vell and move on.
Gary
If it’s Frankie Raye, that’s fine of course that it’s a female. If it’s the Silver Surfer, then it should be a man. I don’t care what color the actor is that plays him as long as they present him as silver and not white, black or any other color.
Andy
My only concern is when an iconic character is gender or race changed with no significant value added, that just seems gratuitous and actually demeans the concept of being diverse. Marvel has a rich enough character base and talented writers. Just switching genders or race is lazy
Milo
Stan Lee said “We live in a diverse society-in fact, a diverse world, and we must learn to live in peace and with respect for each other.” So I don’t think he’d have a problem with changing the gender of a superhero. If the story allows for it. Marvel is going to keep being inclusive because that’s the way the world we live in is, for the most part. And after all, it’s all make believe.
Karim
Maybe it’s Nova and Norrin Radd aka Silver Surfer will already be emancipated from Galactus. No one truly knows but anything to rouse the anti-sjws. Yep, using that because “woke” has been bastardized beyond all recognition
Cade
There is no problem with a female herald for Galactus. The problem is taking a male character like the Silver Surfer and making it a female role is the problem. If you want a female to be the herald pick one established in the comics history, ori don’t know be creative and make a new female herald
Robmeister
I have no problem with a female herald for Galactus as long as it’s Nova. If there is a female Silver Surfer I would definitely boycott the movie. As a comic purist I have to say there has been enough twisting of Marvel identities. Let’s get back to the original ideas of Stan Lee.
Chris
I wish the anti-woke mob, who are obsessed with their hatred and the Woke mob who are obsessed with being an object of hatred would just go away, forever and I don’t think I am alone in this, by any means.
Tyu
I hope you realize a good chunk of Marvel mega fans have started crying.
This Polical Agenda needs to stop, we all want one thing to be entertained and tell great stories.
I’ve had enough, as an Independent author this will not the way.
No thanks, he’s a he not a she.
Kid’s don’t watch Marvel or Lucasfilm. It’s the adult’s.
I agree with one thing, way too many YouTuber think the louder they are someone will hear them. I’ve moved on.
Tyu
I hope you realize a good chunk of Marvel mega fans have started crying.
This Polical Agenda needs to stop, we all want one thing to be entertained and tell great stories.
I’ve had enough, as an Independent author this will not the way.
No thanks, he’s a he not a she.
Kid’s don’t watch Marvel or Lucasfilm. It’s the adult’s.
I agree with one thing, way too many YouTuber think the louder they are someone will hear them. I’ve moved on.
Bart
Silver Surfer and fantastic 4 goes together well. Norrin Radd was a man according to comic book and it should stay that way. Its crazy whats happening. Soon we will have X – Them or worse. But such is fate of all things created by directors with so called ‘VISION’. They changed cpt Marvel.from.man to woman as well. I miss good old days when things were simple and accurately based on the original material.
Clark Ingle
It’s annoying they constantly change male characters into female, it’s me wonder why they can’t just create new female characters. If they silver surfer, then I hope they don’t give the same treatment they did for Taskmaster in the Black Window MCU. Hopefully the Silver Surfer isn’t crap, and I hope it isn’t.
CollectingSoulz
It’s actually already a thing. Her name is Juno from Earth 829…not to mention Nova and others.
GoofusGallant
Because Seven of Nine boosted ratings of Star Trek Voyager. Silver surfer doesn’t wear clothes. We can see why they want it to be a female, to attract the neckbeard simps.
Jeff
Anti-woke mouth breathers that haven’t read comics, and it shows. One of Galactus’ main heralds is a woman known as Nova. Typical uneducated faux outrage, nothing more.
Cane
The problem with inclusion is it obviously also excludes. That is something that is not explored or considered with modern wokeism. Especially when you see a larger percentage of the population excluded by down playing their importance which is visible because companies decide to push such narratives. What you do is limit your target audience and it does not matter which side of the spectrum you consider yourself, in the end you lose fiscally because of it.
Benga
I don’t think it’s mysoginistic to want film adaptations of characters to stay the same sex they were written or racist for them to stay the same race. There are plenty of characters to go around after all.
MARVEL Faithful
WORD!!!
Bern Huds
They should stay true to the comics
Chuckle Head
To steal from Southparks Panderverse episode, Kathleen Kennedy character wants all the MCU characters to be,”make them a woman, make them gay, and make them lame!” And that’s exactly what we’ll get.😬
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