So after mentioning that fans, from either gender, are sick of KK’s woke, and the force is female political agenda, you, the writer, go on to say that things are looking up for lusacfilm because she just announced a bunch more woke and female led movies and series. Why can we not get back to a time where good story telling was what creators strived for, not a political message about what the characters have between there legs and who they sleep with. With the upcoming projects being led by radical feminists, with little to no movie and or TV experience, what hope do we have. Bring back great escapist movies and story telling, no matter who is the main charactors
Here’s what I don’t get with these kinds of arguments, the movies were bad because they were “woke” and female led. But that isn’t at all why they were bad. They were bad because they didn’t do a good job at all telling the story. They focused on stupid storylines(the return of the emperor) over good storylines(Thrawn and the rest), they established a baddie and the immediately killed him without any real building(Snoke), and they tried so hard to subvert expectations and be smarter than the people watching(all of whatever the hell The Last Jedi was). They were bad for many, many reasons, complaining about them being “woke” and female led is just showing your sexism. Complain about the real issues with them.
You’re missing the point. You people with ‘isms. When the objective is clearly a woke agenda, the actual story telling becomes a low priority and the movies suck.
A recent example, for your sexism comment. Indiana Jones 5 is a terrible movie exactly because of the boss girl character. She is there to fill a feminist fantasy of emasculating a well-known action hero, that isnt really up for debate.
But it just made the movie kind of sad, because the audience just wants to see Indiana Jones do cool things, not get made fun of, and constantly one-upped by an insufferable millennial.
The really sad thing is that in terms of charisma and quality the actor did so well she could have carried her own movie, but a SEPARATE movie. Instead Disney decided to make the Indiana Jones franchise even worse than it already was. I could go on but, you know, spoilers 🙂
This is why I dont think the “bad subplots” you mention can be separate from the “woke” problem. One causes the other.
It isn’t “sexism” to be sick of being preached at constantly. That’s the problem. The stories didn’t used to flash MESSAGE constantly. No matter what the message might be, that’s not why the fans go to the films.
They were bad because they focused on woke propaganda instead of good story. People in charge of Hollywood view themselves not as entertainers but Messiahs that must bring progressive ideas to unwashed masses.
Just because there are more issues doesn’t mean they ALL aren’t the real issues. They were bad because they were trying to be woke and political(feminist). But, also, for bad storytelling, no development or continuity, etc.
Inclusion for the sake of not hurting someone’s feelings is a bad standard if you want a quality product. Let’s get back to a results-driven society, no matter what a person’s political ideology or skin color is.
As a consumer, I don’t really care about the people behind the scenes and what they believe or think. I also don’t care what other fans believe or think. You have your opinions and I have mine. Don’t tell me what to think and I won’t tell you what to think.
If I don’t like the story, I’ll spend my money somewhere else.
I don’t care of the shows were female led. In the case of the sequel trilogy it was done by excoriating the male lead. In Dial the female lead was an overblown mercenary willing to sell out anyone and therefore completely unlikable.
I stopped reading at “woke”. Sorry but I can’t take anything or anyone serious when someone uses that word and then has no idea what it means when you ask them.
Sorry but I can’t take anything or anyone serious when they suggest woke is even remotely complicated enough a concept that it could ever be misunderstood.
Enlightenment isn’t a new concept. Especially when the “enlightened” are so clearly anything but.
You males are pumped up with too much testosterone or something. Did you all expect an 80 year old Harrison ford to be some kind of action hero? This isn’t the 1980s anymore, sorry to disappoint you. Just because a younger female character shows an old man some things does not make it “political.” You just hate women who do more than stay home and bake cookies.
I am also waiting for “fans” twisted reaction to the new Ahsoka trailer, where almost every character is female. I’m willing to bet…. Not a single person will call it woke because some man in a cowboy hat wrote and was in charge of this show….. even though Kathleen Kennedy oversaw that as much as she she did Mandalorian, Rogue One, and the Andor tv show.
Mickey Mouse needs to give Kathleen Kennedy a prostate exam with a lightsaber! Why can’t a story (epic) JUST BE A STORY???? You want social justice, go stand on a soap box somewhere else and stop trying to endoctorate our youth. You aren’t everyone’s Messiah lady.
Ripley from Aliens was a true strong woman, Sarah Connor was another and even Cathy Bate character. The women they are pushing ad leads are nothing more than a political stunt
Aye most of these Disney leads can’t even act. Gone are the days when we had competent female characters with interesting backstories, flaws, and developments. Now we are stuck with horrible caricatures who are “perfect” from the beginning. The live action remake of Mulan when compared to the animated one illustrates this well. Guess which one did better?
Then again, every single male Marvel superhero is exactly as you described. Honestly, Spiderman got powers overnight and he seemed to get out of everything without a scrape, movie after movie after movie after movie.
You guys just long for the days when males owned everything in the world and it’s sickening.
Jfc, you people are the worst. Did she/ the SW team make bad mistakes? Yes, but they had nothing to do with politics or feminism. The storylines were poor, mostly due to continuity and non-originality. But no one is trying to “endoctorate” anyone. Get over yourself.
I wouldn’t mind the politics if the stories were well made. However, the creators repeatedly made it clear in interviews that their main focus was on said politics. Instead of focusing on the story.
Spoken like a true privileged individual. How dare someone interrupt my movie to shine a light on injustices? (Which never happened by the way!) There was only one messiah, I thought. And his message was to love. Is that what you think your doing with this rude and out of touch comment?
Kathleen Kennedy oversaw the sequel trilogy which made 1 billion dollars, each film. Rogue One, which also was under her watch, made over a billion dollars.
She oversaw Mandalorian and the other Disney+ shows. John Favreau, was hired by her.
On the flip-side, she approved the overbudgeted Indy 5 and Solo: A Star Wars Story.
So, I feel like she did ok. Can someone do better? Depends who that someone is. Dave Filoni? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
True, she did oversee the sequel trilogy and each one made less money than the last. The Mandalorian gets worse each season, Willow was a train wreck, Obi One sucked, Book of Bobba Fet sucked, Star Cruiser hotel failed.
Actually while credited, she had very little to do with Mandalorian as it wasnt expected to be a big deal. Filoni and Favreau had very little oversight and interference there. KK was far more focused on shows like Kenobi, which sadly bombed. Overall Filoni and Favreau have far better track records and creative credits long before Disney. KK has at best production credits, when she wasn’t basically an executive yes-person for Lucas and Spielberg.
Wrong. Jon first pitched the idea to Dave who in-turn took it to Kathleen. Dave and Jon had been working together for years before KK was even around. Favreau voiced Pre Vizla in the clone wars many years ago. Kathleen Kennedy’s name wasnt even in the end credits of Mando S1 episodes but that all changed when she saw what a cutural phenomenon it was. She then made it mandatory for her to get production credits at the end of every season 2 episdoe and beyond even though she had very little to do with the series. My god, I still remember that Disney gallery episode where all the producers were having a round table talk about George Lucas and ofcourse Kathleen feeling so pompous (as usual) completey interrupted Jon to say something random…Jon ignored and said “the discussion starts here with me” Typical behavior of kathey since her early days of interrupting people instead of doing her job and taking notes.
She lost money for the company with her habit of expensive sets and fx, then leaving them on the cutting room floor. People who lose money for the company shouldn’t be kept.
She’d better be fired. The destruction of SW and Indiana Jones was deliberate. She is a vindictive harpy, who can’t stand a male hero. Dial of Destiny was an INDIANA JONES movie, not Helena Whatshername. If that nasty PWB wants to be the hero, then get her own movie, not trample over Indy.
You incels are sick in the head. You want to know what’s wrong with the world? People who think that because they don’t see themselves depicted as heros in a movie for a change think that a failure had to do with the what’s swinging between your legs. There’s ONE CHROMOSOME DIFFERENCE. GROW THE F UP. Sincerely, another cis male who knows that people are people and not the sex or gender they happen to be.
Do you have proof that Star Wars fans are incels?
No, you don’t. So shut up and it is CIS women with the brain disease called feminism that has screwed things up royally at Lucasfilm
The problem with sequel trilogy was. Unlike both the prequels and originals barely any time past in movies the events took place in the span of a month. Plus the whole idea of the first order taking over to the Galaxy was stupid it was just the rebels versus the empire all over again.
Would been better if empire remnants was undermining authority of the new Republic by attacking ships and planets with mercenaries and pirates. Saying the new republic is corrupt and ineffective only caring about the core worlds.
Instead of the starkiller base they would have single ships that could devastate the surface of the planet with power of the entire armada. Luke would be trying to rebuild the jedi order as humanitarian organization that does disaster relief.
negotiate Conflict resolution and if needed peace keepers like the United Nations security forces.
Luke would also be trying to heal the wound in the force caused by combined effects of the clone wars the destruction of the Jedi order and the destruction of alderaan.
The leaders of the imperial remnants would be sith order followers who follow philosophy of the sith. They would be searching for artifacts and remnants of the true sith.
The search takes them into the unknown regions where they find a hidden sith empire that isolated themselves because the lost to the growing light side influence. They are responsible for the schism in the Jedi order.
She’s not a “Disney era” executive. George hired her on before that sale. She’s been a mess for a long time. Hopefully they can start to right the ship
Most likely just wishful thinking, but one shared by MANY. To say KK is “Woke” is wrong, but far more “Girl Power”, by which, there is nothing wrong with girl power but it has to be done RIGHT! So far, she hasn’t had a strong female role that wasn’t a Mary sue. Rey just instantly becomes good at what ever force power she needs at the time, Leia miraculously shows her force ability without ever demonstrating it prior, and male characters become weak in the face of all female power…. Luke was done a disservice, Poe gets a slap on the wrist with being an over confident pilot (even though he nearly single handedly handled the first order troops in The force Awakened), and Finn gets a the side character boot when again clearly set up an amazing Stormtrooper to gay Jedi in Force awaken but was then given the role of Rey yeller and 2 female love interests which also did Rose a disservice in Rise of Skywalker.
I personally had so much hope for something different after TFA, but all I got was disappointment. TFA was basically A New Hope all over again, but was fresh with new characters and so many things that could be explored. What we got was crap among crap with maybe 3 to 4 good ideas/scenes/moments with the movies that followed.
There are so many good ideas within Star Wars Visions… maybe those new fresh takes should be given more thought
She has done nothing positive for Disney. As woman, that fact that she just kept interjecting feminism into storyline, where it wasn’t needed was annoying. Her “the Force is female” tee-shirt really annoyed me. Giving gender to the Force was just too much for me!!!😡😡😡
Hopefully we can get back to having capable male heroes again too. Things have swung so far to female power and overwhelming diversity that it makes those of us who have been around watching Star Wars from the beginning feel alienated. The Mandalorian gave us hope again. Rogue One was a good movie too. Clone Wars was a fantastic series.
Disney doesn’t have the huevos to fire her. Kathleen is untouchable as Hunter is. Disney will never learn and continue to destroy movies for an eternity.
Lol, the amount of women hating incels commenting here is hilarious. Y’all need to pick up a dictionary and learn words other than “feminism” and “woke” cause your buzzword arguments make you sound painfully uneducated.
Yes.. It’s by far that new leadership must be called for.
If by now that Lucasfilm is declining on its franchise and there’s no solution to bring it back up. Then absolutely New leadership must be done. Do it now while loyal fans throughout the world are it’s still around looking for the new series of entertainment. Find someone who can bring New Order to save this franchise so that Lucafilm can last forever beyond the years to come. Just like all presidential terms once they have serve their purpose in years replace them immediately so that there are so little change without anyone noticing what just happened.. Keep Moving Forward with little damage Or No damage to its future integrity let Lucasfilm strive for a better hope..
Emperor KK is a travesty to the LucasFilm empire! Until she’s formally dismissed from her position I will continue to boycott ANYTHING from the studio and I am a diehard Star Wars fan!
Emperor KK is a travesty to the LucasFilm empire! Until she’s formally dismissed from her position I will continue to boycott ANYTHING from the studio and I am a diehard Star Wars fan!
If people new the number of iconic and/or most beloved films Kennedy actually tried to axe over her career they would understand why she shouldn’t be in the film industry. Anyone who wants an intro to what I’m talking about just watch The Films that Made Us series on Netflix and tally how many of them talk about Kennedy trying to kill their projects.
I grew up watching the original Star Wars franchise and ever since that time I have been a big fan of Star Wars. I am not familiar with all of inside politics going on at Disney and Star Wars specifically, but I can say the new Star Wars cast has fallen short of my expectations. Many of the new characters are boring to follow and dont have the aura and magic of the original cast like Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, Han Solo, Princess Leia, Chewbacca, etc.
Furthermore, most of the Star Wars TV shows on Disney Plus are also boring to me. The only show I watch on Disney related to Star Wars is Mandolorian. Both the Mandolorian and Grogu make the show enjoyable to follow and watch.
Here is my two cents, choosing and developing characters should not be about gender or race but rather which person is the best fit for a particular character. Also, how much acting talent and ability does this person have? Dont just choose someone because of their race and gender if there is another candidate that would do a much better job of embodying a particular character.
Maybe, better the devil you know, than the devil you don’t know. I would say it highly unlikely that if Disney fires her, or let’s her contract expire, that they are ever likely to replace her with anyone who’s main goal is good story telling. It’s likely they’ll make a diversity hire and your stories could go from the frying pan into the fire. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it. Look no further than the dumpster fire of The Acolyte to see where they are headed.
Kathleen is the worst. Kanobi was truly awful, not because of any one character, but because it didn’t make any sense. Darth Vader stopped by fire? What? And what she did to Han Solo and Luke, terrible. The only good movie was Rouge One.
At the end of the day, the stories were bad. The storytelling was bad. But first and foremost don’t destroy the hero of your franchise to make room for a new hero.
If this is true and KK is gone, I say keep cleaning house and ditch/retcon the Sequels away entirely. I know there have been rumours online for years saying certain Disney folks wanted that and that others (read: Kathleen Kennedy) dug in and fought to keep them. I don’t care whether or not this was true. What IS true is, if she leaves, now more than ever it would be easier for Disney to get rid of those awful, awful movies and take a mulligan. I say, bring back the best of the EU and use the time cherished and fan-vetted stories like they should have from the beginning. They are already tipping their hat and pulling from “Legends” everywhere they can—why not just go the full mile and just use those stories? Makes the most sense to me.
Kathleen Kennedy should have been fired after Solo and The Rise of Skywalker but she was not a Disney exec. She was a producer at Steven Spielberg’s Amblin Films with ties to both Spielberg and George Lucas before Lucasfilm was purchased by Disney.
The problem was that you created a NEW hero, and instead of giving that hero its own journey, you took the OLD hero, smashed all its accomplishments and made him a failure and a laughing stock, and made your NEW hero save the day and make it do everything George planned the OLD hero to do.
It’s not about the female heroes. There are a bunch of strong female Jedi and other female badasses in the OG/Extended Start Wars universe that have a lot of fans. If Rey would be a boy, I would still think he is a Gary Sue and a horrible disrespectful spit on Luke Skywalker’s legacy.
Stop pretending it’s misogyny or chauvinism that has the fans in uproar when in fact, the sequels just portrayed the old heroes in a way NOBODY wanted to see them. This whole travesty needs to be retconned and have a Han, Luke, Leia reuinion. (even that will never wash away the SHAME that they didn’t let Carrie Fisher portray such scene while she was still alive)
I really don’t know of anything that she has done that I have a problem with. No negatives of importance. But, I guess that when things are underperforming, someone has to take the blame, even if only for symbolic reasons.
At the end of the day, the stories were bad. The storytelling was bad. But first and foremost don’t destroy the hero of your franchise to make room for a new hero.
She could have grown thr female side of the franchise wo gutting the old favorites. Bringing balance. I say bring in DF or JF. They have a better feel for the universe. See how their shows have done.
I agree with some, but there’s so many incel comments on here, its ROUGH to give anyone an inch. KK, I’m sure, is a nice lady. But her influence at Lucasfilm hasn’t been a good fit.
Feminism needs to stop being performative. It just *is,* just like how men exist, hey! weird! so do women. I know, a shock to all of us.
The internet’s hate of KK just grows on itself, but she needs to be assigned to other projects with more originality. I agree with many here, The Force Awakens was just A New Hope reimagined, and like someone else pointed out, the male characters were weak to the female ones with no explanation. The trilogy wasn’t so much a “saga” as it was just a long 3-part storyline, (I know, I know, but stay with me here) and there were a lot of plot holes. Luke was done *dirty* and Han and Leia just made out to be bad parents when we all know they were the *literal* coolest people in the galaxy before they had a kid.
We’ve all got some hard opinions on the franchise, but the one we all seem to agree on is that KK is not a good fit.
The last 3 Star Wars movies sucked point blank. Thanks to bad leadership. They were never ment to have a woman lead as the main character. If she wanted those type of storyline she should have invented a new storyline sequel all together like George Lucas done with the indiana jones movies. The 2 tomb raider movies with Angelina were not too bad. So it can be done.
Just the thought of Rey u are our only hope makes me want to vomit.
I don’t give a 541t about woke, just give me a decent film/TV series that’s well written, well acted and well directed. Include who you want, race, creed, orientation don’t matter just make it decent and don’t just shunt it in poorly so that it makes no sense and detracts from the product.
I think they should get rid of Kennedy and replace her with David Felon and that’s what I would do to stop the bleeding at Lucesfilm that’s what I would do look at all the good David Felon is doing and look at all the bad Kennedy is doing with Indiana Jones and StarWars
Very much appreciate the reporting, but a minor point of clarification. Executives with $2M in salary compensation and as much as $25M in total compensation don’t get ousted from positions with two weeks of severance. Their hiring includes a compensation protection program, what many describe as a golden parachute, and guarantees they’re paid a significant portion of their employment contract
What makes me furious about KK is that she is more interested in pushing her own agenda even if it means disrespecting 30 years of fandom and history. She’s almost killed Star Wars movie franchise, now she’s ignored all the lessons from Crystal Skull and again made something that’s a complete ignoring of the what the franchise should be and instead pushes a personal agenda. I am so grateful she’s now out at Lucas. Get Jon Favrou on the driver seat save the Star wars cinematic franchise.
I’ve had zero interest in Star Wars since 1983. Even Return of the Jedi wasn’t that great. Judging from the comments, the new iterations deserve to rot on the vine. Put a fork in it already.
Oh, Kathleen Kennedy’s been fired again? Yeah sure OK, let’s be real she’s been fired according to fans approximately 3 times a fortnight since The Force Awakens was released
I invite any of you to go and write a screenplay. I bet none of you can write one or teach anybody to do it. Those who can do, those who can’t teach, those who can’t do either, complain. I have a feeling you all complain about alot
Except for how the story was put together, over-all I have enjoyed the content of star wars related content especially Rise of Skywalker (which I thought was probably the best Star wars movie to date.) I have enjoyed Rogue one, Solo and the rest of the content since Disneys take over. I know plenty of people who love Star Wars, that also enjoyed the new content
It’s interesting how some people are like those old grouchy folk we avoided as kids, just because they don’t like change. Because they didn’t like the way the storyline was going. And so they feel Kennedy needs to go. Everyone’s entitled to an opinion, it just shouldn’t be done with voices of hatred or anger. Star wars is for everyone not just for select few.
Comments for ‘Star Wars’ Fans Rejoice as Lucasfilm Reportedly Fires Controversial Executive
Garry
So after mentioning that fans, from either gender, are sick of KK’s woke, and the force is female political agenda, you, the writer, go on to say that things are looking up for lusacfilm because she just announced a bunch more woke and female led movies and series. Why can we not get back to a time where good story telling was what creators strived for, not a political message about what the characters have between there legs and who they sleep with. With the upcoming projects being led by radical feminists, with little to no movie and or TV experience, what hope do we have. Bring back great escapist movies and story telling, no matter who is the main charactors
Willlll
Here’s what I don’t get with these kinds of arguments, the movies were bad because they were “woke” and female led. But that isn’t at all why they were bad. They were bad because they didn’t do a good job at all telling the story. They focused on stupid storylines(the return of the emperor) over good storylines(Thrawn and the rest), they established a baddie and the immediately killed him without any real building(Snoke), and they tried so hard to subvert expectations and be smarter than the people watching(all of whatever the hell The Last Jedi was). They were bad for many, many reasons, complaining about them being “woke” and female led is just showing your sexism. Complain about the real issues with them.
Mike
You’re missing the point. You people with ‘isms. When the objective is clearly a woke agenda, the actual story telling becomes a low priority and the movies suck.
Jim
Mysoginist
Vunnible
Correct.
I nor anyone else could care less about whether a particular lead is female.
But just like we can hear passion in music, we can see passion in film; and any side-agenda distracts from that, often destroying the feel entirely.
You can’t fake passion in a board room. And consumers aren’t nearly as ignorant or ill-informed as these producers think.
It’s really that simple.
Name
This.
Helper
A recent example, for your sexism comment. Indiana Jones 5 is a terrible movie exactly because of the boss girl character. She is there to fill a feminist fantasy of emasculating a well-known action hero, that isnt really up for debate.
But it just made the movie kind of sad, because the audience just wants to see Indiana Jones do cool things, not get made fun of, and constantly one-upped by an insufferable millennial.
The really sad thing is that in terms of charisma and quality the actor did so well she could have carried her own movie, but a SEPARATE movie. Instead Disney decided to make the Indiana Jones franchise even worse than it already was. I could go on but, you know, spoilers 🙂
This is why I dont think the “bad subplots” you mention can be separate from the “woke” problem. One causes the other.
Obi Wan
Word
Jackie
It isn’t “sexism” to be sick of being preached at constantly. That’s the problem. The stories didn’t used to flash MESSAGE constantly. No matter what the message might be, that’s not why the fans go to the films.
BG
They were bad because they focused on woke propaganda instead of good story. People in charge of Hollywood view themselves not as entertainers but Messiahs that must bring progressive ideas to unwashed masses.
GAgnes777
Just because there are more issues doesn’t mean they ALL aren’t the real issues. They were bad because they were trying to be woke and political(feminist). But, also, for bad storytelling, no development or continuity, etc.
Inclusion for the sake of not hurting someone’s feelings is a bad standard if you want a quality product. Let’s get back to a results-driven society, no matter what a person’s political ideology or skin color is.
As a consumer, I don’t really care about the people behind the scenes and what they believe or think. I also don’t care what other fans believe or think. You have your opinions and I have mine. Don’t tell me what to think and I won’t tell you what to think.
If I don’t like the story, I’ll spend my money somewhere else.
Phil
I don’t care of the shows were female led. In the case of the sequel trilogy it was done by excoriating the male lead. In Dial the female lead was an overblown mercenary willing to sell out anyone and therefore completely unlikable.
Tikster
I stopped reading at “woke”. Sorry but I can’t take anything or anyone serious when someone uses that word and then has no idea what it means when you ask them.
Blackstar
Thank you.
Gregory Green
That was Iger’s reaction as he watched the value of his company drop in half.
He too stayed in the bubble of ignorance.
Name
Sorry but I can’t take anything or anyone serious when they suggest woke is even remotely complicated enough a concept that it could ever be misunderstood.
Enlightenment isn’t a new concept. Especially when the “enlightened” are so clearly anything but.
Andy
They were bad because of being woke AND bad story telling.
Larry
Hey buddy, what does woke mean?
J
Agree. Here’s to hoping these companies continue to suffer and finally realize their woke agendas should be forced down our throats.
J
Agree. Here’s to hoping these companies continue to suffer and finally realize their woke agendas should NOT be forced down our throats.
Phil
Nailed it!
Tim
Awe you poor cry babies. How dare they have a female led content. It’s pathetic this bothers you and shows how small you are.
The Truth
You males are pumped up with too much testosterone or something. Did you all expect an 80 year old Harrison ford to be some kind of action hero? This isn’t the 1980s anymore, sorry to disappoint you. Just because a younger female character shows an old man some things does not make it “political.” You just hate women who do more than stay home and bake cookies.
I am also waiting for “fans” twisted reaction to the new Ahsoka trailer, where almost every character is female. I’m willing to bet…. Not a single person will call it woke because some man in a cowboy hat wrote and was in charge of this show….. even though Kathleen Kennedy oversaw that as much as she she did Mandalorian, Rogue One, and the Andor tv show.
Gregory Green
Kennedy tried the toxic fan base rhetoric and it didn’t help. You should pay more attention to the people around you.
Leftist have lost the ability to make an argument.
Connor MacLeod
Mickey Mouse needs to give Kathleen Kennedy a prostate exam with a lightsaber! Why can’t a story (epic) JUST BE A STORY???? You want social justice, go stand on a soap box somewhere else and stop trying to endoctorate our youth. You aren’t everyone’s Messiah lady.
Yeah right
So you wish she was killed?
Radical males.
Don
Ripley from Aliens was a true strong woman, Sarah Connor was another and even Cathy Bate character. The women they are pushing ad leads are nothing more than a political stunt
Galloway
Aye most of these Disney leads can’t even act. Gone are the days when we had competent female characters with interesting backstories, flaws, and developments. Now we are stuck with horrible caricatures who are “perfect” from the beginning. The live action remake of Mulan when compared to the animated one illustrates this well. Guess which one did better?
The Truth
Then again, every single male Marvel superhero is exactly as you described. Honestly, Spiderman got powers overnight and he seemed to get out of everything without a scrape, movie after movie after movie after movie.
You guys just long for the days when males owned everything in the world and it’s sickening.
Gregory Green
Unfortunately for you the toxic fan base seems to have more money that the woke protectors.
You won’t change minds by calling them toxic or saying they’re sickening.
You should try to develop persuasive arguments rather than engaging in name calling.
Don
Jfc, you people are the worst. Did she/ the SW team make bad mistakes? Yes, but they had nothing to do with politics or feminism. The storylines were poor, mostly due to continuity and non-originality. But no one is trying to “endoctorate” anyone. Get over yourself.
Random
So why did the same failures happen with Willow & Indiana Jones if no one is trying to “endoctorate” anyone
Galloway
I wouldn’t mind the politics if the stories were well made. However, the creators repeatedly made it clear in interviews that their main focus was on said politics. Instead of focusing on the story.
Don
Btw, women don’t have prostates, although I wouldn’t expect an incel to know that.
Galloway
The commentator might mean that such exams are performed up one’s rectum.
Dave
Depends what they identify as
According to Disney men can have children and manstrate
The Emperor
Do you have proof they are an incel?
Acurisur
Well Don, I’m glad to see yoy have no idea what a Skene gland is, because that’s the female prostate. Stop calling complete strangers incels as well.
Gregory Green
Are you sure she’s not a man?
The Emperor
Krapleen is my wife’s Messiah. Thanks to her I no longer buy Star Wars merchandise.
Lamar
Spoken like a true privileged individual. How dare someone interrupt my movie to shine a light on injustices? (Which never happened by the way!) There was only one messiah, I thought. And his message was to love. Is that what you think your doing with this rude and out of touch comment?
Susan Shedlow
For the sake of Star Wars returning to it’s well made roots Kathleen Kennedy must go.
Sorry Kathleen Kennedy, but you ruined a franchise that I grew up with since 1977.
Steve3PO
If George Lucas couldn’t kill Star Wars with those prequel dumpster fires, nothing can
MonsterJoe
This!
To Be Honest
Kathleen Kennedy oversaw the sequel trilogy which made 1 billion dollars, each film. Rogue One, which also was under her watch, made over a billion dollars.
She oversaw Mandalorian and the other Disney+ shows. John Favreau, was hired by her.
On the flip-side, she approved the overbudgeted Indy 5 and Solo: A Star Wars Story.
So, I feel like she did ok. Can someone do better? Depends who that someone is. Dave Filoni? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Mike N
True, she did oversee the sequel trilogy and each one made less money than the last. The Mandalorian gets worse each season, Willow was a train wreck, Obi One sucked, Book of Bobba Fet sucked, Star Cruiser hotel failed.
Name
Boba Fett, Obi-Wan, & Mando 3 weren’t just failures. They were embarrassments.
Bad acting. Bad story. Bad CGI. Bad costumes. Just… bad.
Blows my mind that they ever made it out of the idea room, much less a major streaming production!
Galloway
Actually while credited, she had very little to do with Mandalorian as it wasnt expected to be a big deal. Filoni and Favreau had very little oversight and interference there. KK was far more focused on shows like Kenobi, which sadly bombed. Overall Filoni and Favreau have far better track records and creative credits long before Disney. KK has at best production credits, when she wasn’t basically an executive yes-person for Lucas and Spielberg.
Mark Zinan
she didn’t make a billion dollar film, she was handed a multi billion dollar franchise with a fanatic fan base of 100s of millions of people.
TimeForChange
Wrong. Jon first pitched the idea to Dave who in-turn took it to Kathleen. Dave and Jon had been working together for years before KK was even around. Favreau voiced Pre Vizla in the clone wars many years ago. Kathleen Kennedy’s name wasnt even in the end credits of Mando S1 episodes but that all changed when she saw what a cutural phenomenon it was. She then made it mandatory for her to get production credits at the end of every season 2 episdoe and beyond even though she had very little to do with the series. My god, I still remember that Disney gallery episode where all the producers were having a round table talk about George Lucas and ofcourse Kathleen feeling so pompous (as usual) completey interrupted Jon to say something random…Jon ignored and said “the discussion starts here with me” Typical behavior of kathey since her early days of interrupting people instead of doing her job and taking notes.
Gregory Green
She lost money for the company with her habit of expensive sets and fx, then leaving them on the cutting room floor. People who lose money for the company shouldn’t be kept.
Kris C
She’d better be fired. The destruction of SW and Indiana Jones was deliberate. She is a vindictive harpy, who can’t stand a male hero. Dial of Destiny was an INDIANA JONES movie, not Helena Whatshername. If that nasty PWB wants to be the hero, then get her own movie, not trample over Indy.
CBehr
You incels are sick in the head. You want to know what’s wrong with the world? People who think that because they don’t see themselves depicted as heros in a movie for a change think that a failure had to do with the what’s swinging between your legs. There’s ONE CHROMOSOME DIFFERENCE. GROW THE F UP. Sincerely, another cis male who knows that people are people and not the sex or gender they happen to be.
The Emperor
Do you have proof that Star Wars fans are incels?
No, you don’t. So shut up and it is CIS women with the brain disease called feminism that has screwed things up royally at Lucasfilm
Gregory Green
You won’t win arguments by insulting people. Try to be rational and friendly rather than emotional and insulting.
The Emperor
Careful bro. These days telling the truth is now classified as misogyny and a cancelable offense.
Phil Davis
Finally !!!!!
Four parsecs
The problem with sequel trilogy was. Unlike both the prequels and originals barely any time past in movies the events took place in the span of a month. Plus the whole idea of the first order taking over to the Galaxy was stupid it was just the rebels versus the empire all over again.
Would been better if empire remnants was undermining authority of the new Republic by attacking ships and planets with mercenaries and pirates. Saying the new republic is corrupt and ineffective only caring about the core worlds.
Instead of the starkiller base they would have single ships that could devastate the surface of the planet with power of the entire armada. Luke would be trying to rebuild the jedi order as humanitarian organization that does disaster relief.
negotiate Conflict resolution and if needed peace keepers like the United Nations security forces.
Luke would also be trying to heal the wound in the force caused by combined effects of the clone wars the destruction of the Jedi order and the destruction of alderaan.
The leaders of the imperial remnants would be sith order followers who follow philosophy of the sith. They would be searching for artifacts and remnants of the true sith.
The search takes them into the unknown regions where they find a hidden sith empire that isolated themselves because the lost to the growing light side influence. They are responsible for the schism in the Jedi order.
Chad
So is she gone I hope so
Ray
She’s not a “Disney era” executive. George hired her on before that sale. She’s been a mess for a long time. Hopefully they can start to right the ship
D
We can hope.
Joel
Please god…let this be real!
Tristan H.
Most likely just wishful thinking, but one shared by MANY. To say KK is “Woke” is wrong, but far more “Girl Power”, by which, there is nothing wrong with girl power but it has to be done RIGHT! So far, she hasn’t had a strong female role that wasn’t a Mary sue. Rey just instantly becomes good at what ever force power she needs at the time, Leia miraculously shows her force ability without ever demonstrating it prior, and male characters become weak in the face of all female power…. Luke was done a disservice, Poe gets a slap on the wrist with being an over confident pilot (even though he nearly single handedly handled the first order troops in The force Awakened), and Finn gets a the side character boot when again clearly set up an amazing Stormtrooper to gay Jedi in Force awaken but was then given the role of Rey yeller and 2 female love interests which also did Rose a disservice in Rise of Skywalker.
I personally had so much hope for something different after TFA, but all I got was disappointment. TFA was basically A New Hope all over again, but was fresh with new characters and so many things that could be explored. What we got was crap among crap with maybe 3 to 4 good ideas/scenes/moments with the movies that followed.
There are so many good ideas within Star Wars Visions… maybe those new fresh takes should be given more thought
Mark
Please God let this rumor be true!
Shawn gentry
Good riddance it’s about time to get rid of that anchor.
Ctm
Get her outta here!! And let the healing begin!
Sonia
Yeaaaa👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🥰🥰🥰. I hope it’s true!!! She had/has to go!!!
Sonia
She has done nothing positive for Disney. As woman, that fact that she just kept interjecting feminism into storyline, where it wasn’t needed was annoying. Her “the Force is female” tee-shirt really annoyed me. Giving gender to the Force was just too much for me!!!😡😡😡
Chris
Hopefully we can get back to having capable male heroes again too. Things have swung so far to female power and overwhelming diversity that it makes those of us who have been around watching Star Wars from the beginning feel alienated. The Mandalorian gave us hope again. Rogue One was a good movie too. Clone Wars was a fantastic series.
Escobar Ceasar
Disney doesn’t have the huevos to fire her. Kathleen is untouchable as Hunter is. Disney will never learn and continue to destroy movies for an eternity.
Jose Salazar
About time she
Was a bad influence to the direction stars and films she touched
John
At an end Kathleen Kennedy’s reign is, and not short enough it was.
AG
Wow I had no idea that there was such turmoil in the force.
Woke isn't a thing
Lol, the amount of women hating incels commenting here is hilarious. Y’all need to pick up a dictionary and learn words other than “feminism” and “woke” cause your buzzword arguments make you sound painfully uneducated.
Mark Zinan
it is the incredibly lousy writing and nothing to do with the other stuff.
Noel Arriola
Yes.. It’s by far that new leadership must be called for.
If by now that Lucasfilm is declining on its franchise and there’s no solution to bring it back up. Then absolutely New leadership must be done. Do it now while loyal fans throughout the world are it’s still around looking for the new series of entertainment. Find someone who can bring New Order to save this franchise so that Lucafilm can last forever beyond the years to come. Just like all presidential terms once they have serve their purpose in years replace them immediately so that there are so little change without anyone noticing what just happened.. Keep Moving Forward with little damage Or No damage to its future integrity let Lucasfilm strive for a better hope..
Seth
Emperor KK is a travesty to the LucasFilm empire! Until she’s formally dismissed from her position I will continue to boycott ANYTHING from the studio and I am a diehard Star Wars fan!
Seth
Emperor KK is a travesty to the LucasFilm empire! Until she’s formally dismissed from her position I will continue to boycott ANYTHING from the studio and I am a diehard Star Wars fan!
NDS
If people new the number of iconic and/or most beloved films Kennedy actually tried to axe over her career they would understand why she shouldn’t be in the film industry. Anyone who wants an intro to what I’m talking about just watch The Films that Made Us series on Netflix and tally how many of them talk about Kennedy trying to kill their projects.
James
I grew up watching the original Star Wars franchise and ever since that time I have been a big fan of Star Wars. I am not familiar with all of inside politics going on at Disney and Star Wars specifically, but I can say the new Star Wars cast has fallen short of my expectations. Many of the new characters are boring to follow and dont have the aura and magic of the original cast like Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, Han Solo, Princess Leia, Chewbacca, etc.
Furthermore, most of the Star Wars TV shows on Disney Plus are also boring to me. The only show I watch on Disney related to Star Wars is Mandolorian. Both the Mandolorian and Grogu make the show enjoyable to follow and watch.
Here is my two cents, choosing and developing characters should not be about gender or race but rather which person is the best fit for a particular character. Also, how much acting talent and ability does this person have? Dont just choose someone because of their race and gender if there is another candidate that would do a much better job of embodying a particular character.
Mike D.
Maybe, better the devil you know, than the devil you don’t know. I would say it highly unlikely that if Disney fires her, or let’s her contract expire, that they are ever likely to replace her with anyone who’s main goal is good story telling. It’s likely they’ll make a diversity hire and your stories could go from the frying pan into the fire. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it. Look no further than the dumpster fire of The Acolyte to see where they are headed.
Jaccsen
The author goes out of their way dismiss fan concerns and denigrate those with a different opinions.
Magnifico
Seems that most things she’s touched have turned to sh!t and that the only reason she’s kept her job is that she’s a chick…
#truth
Adam
Kathleen is the worst. Kanobi was truly awful, not because of any one character, but because it didn’t make any sense. Darth Vader stopped by fire? What? And what she did to Han Solo and Luke, terrible. The only good movie was Rouge One.
J
At the end of the day, the stories were bad. The storytelling was bad. But first and foremost don’t destroy the hero of your franchise to make room for a new hero.
Mnngal-Mnngal
If this is true and KK is gone, I say keep cleaning house and ditch/retcon the Sequels away entirely. I know there have been rumours online for years saying certain Disney folks wanted that and that others (read: Kathleen Kennedy) dug in and fought to keep them. I don’t care whether or not this was true. What IS true is, if she leaves, now more than ever it would be easier for Disney to get rid of those awful, awful movies and take a mulligan. I say, bring back the best of the EU and use the time cherished and fan-vetted stories like they should have from the beginning. They are already tipping their hat and pulling from “Legends” everywhere they can—why not just go the full mile and just use those stories? Makes the most sense to me.
Steve3PO
People have been saying Kathleen Kennedy is about to be fired since the day after The Last Jedi came out 6 years ago in 2017.
Just stop.
Steve3PO
The prequels were absolute shiт, but no one was asking that George Lucas be fired.
Sit down.
Name
Um… yeah they were.
You can’t be fired from your own company, so everyone asked him to sell it. For YEARS.
It’s literally, 100% the same exact thing!
Joe Smart
Kathleen Kennedy should have been fired after Solo and The Rise of Skywalker but she was not a Disney exec. She was a producer at Steven Spielberg’s Amblin Films with ties to both Spielberg and George Lucas before Lucasfilm was purchased by Disney.
Hegedus Robert
The problem was that you created a NEW hero, and instead of giving that hero its own journey, you took the OLD hero, smashed all its accomplishments and made him a failure and a laughing stock, and made your NEW hero save the day and make it do everything George planned the OLD hero to do.
It’s not about the female heroes. There are a bunch of strong female Jedi and other female badasses in the OG/Extended Start Wars universe that have a lot of fans. If Rey would be a boy, I would still think he is a Gary Sue and a horrible disrespectful spit on Luke Skywalker’s legacy.
Stop pretending it’s misogyny or chauvinism that has the fans in uproar when in fact, the sequels just portrayed the old heroes in a way NOBODY wanted to see them. This whole travesty needs to be retconned and have a Han, Luke, Leia reuinion. (even that will never wash away the SHAME that they didn’t let Carrie Fisher portray such scene while she was still alive)
TJ
I hope it is true. KK is terrible for Star Wars. Let Dave and Jon run Lucasfilm
Cuthbert
I really don’t know of anything that she has done that I have a problem with. No negatives of importance. But, I guess that when things are underperforming, someone has to take the blame, even if only for symbolic reasons.
Kandon kane
All of a sudden a million voices cried out in JOY & EXTACY!!!!!
As it was said in the Wizard of Oz, “DING DONG….
Mark Zinan
Let me plagiarize “J”:
At the end of the day, the stories were bad. The storytelling was bad. But first and foremost don’t destroy the hero of your franchise to make room for a new hero.
S
She could have grown thr female side of the franchise wo gutting the old favorites. Bringing balance. I say bring in DF or JF. They have a better feel for the universe. See how their shows have done.
John
The Kathleen Kennedy hate is proof Star Wars fans need to be bullied.
fionafancypants
I agree with some, but there’s so many incel comments on here, its ROUGH to give anyone an inch. KK, I’m sure, is a nice lady. But her influence at Lucasfilm hasn’t been a good fit.
Feminism needs to stop being performative. It just *is,* just like how men exist, hey! weird! so do women. I know, a shock to all of us.
The internet’s hate of KK just grows on itself, but she needs to be assigned to other projects with more originality. I agree with many here, The Force Awakens was just A New Hope reimagined, and like someone else pointed out, the male characters were weak to the female ones with no explanation. The trilogy wasn’t so much a “saga” as it was just a long 3-part storyline, (I know, I know, but stay with me here) and there were a lot of plot holes. Luke was done *dirty* and Han and Leia just made out to be bad parents when we all know they were the *literal* coolest people in the galaxy before they had a kid.
We’ve all got some hard opinions on the franchise, but the one we all seem to agree on is that KK is not a good fit.
Dave
The last 3 Star Wars movies sucked point blank. Thanks to bad leadership. They were never ment to have a woman lead as the main character. If she wanted those type of storyline she should have invented a new storyline sequel all together like George Lucas done with the indiana jones movies. The 2 tomb raider movies with Angelina were not too bad. So it can be done.
Just the thought of Rey u are our only hope makes me want to vomit.
Sky
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is a superb movie, to be honest.
Frank
I don’t give a 541t about woke, just give me a decent film/TV series that’s well written, well acted and well directed. Include who you want, race, creed, orientation don’t matter just make it decent and don’t just shunt it in poorly so that it makes no sense and detracts from the product.
Ben Lordon
I think they should get rid of Kennedy and replace her with David Felon and that’s what I would do to stop the bleeding at Lucesfilm that’s what I would do look at all the good David Felon is doing and look at all the bad Kennedy is doing with Indiana Jones and StarWars
Mr. Guy
Very much appreciate the reporting, but a minor point of clarification. Executives with $2M in salary compensation and as much as $25M in total compensation don’t get ousted from positions with two weeks of severance. Their hiring includes a compensation protection program, what many describe as a golden parachute, and guarantees they’re paid a significant portion of their employment contract
Bad Kitty No Milk Tonight
What makes me furious about KK is that she is more interested in pushing her own agenda even if it means disrespecting 30 years of fandom and history. She’s almost killed Star Wars movie franchise, now she’s ignored all the lessons from Crystal Skull and again made something that’s a complete ignoring of the what the franchise should be and instead pushes a personal agenda. I am so grateful she’s now out at Lucas. Get Jon Favrou on the driver seat save the Star wars cinematic franchise.
Ryk
Funny since she did what George was going to
Jeremy
RIGHT ON. Unfortunately, no confirmation kk’s in the guillotine YET.
Ryk
Lol no
Al
I’ve had zero interest in Star Wars since 1983. Even Return of the Jedi wasn’t that great. Judging from the comments, the new iterations deserve to rot on the vine. Put a fork in it already.
Jimmy
Oh, Kathleen Kennedy’s been fired again? Yeah sure OK, let’s be real she’s been fired according to fans approximately 3 times a fortnight since The Force Awakens was released
Jim
I invite any of you to go and write a screenplay. I bet none of you can write one or teach anybody to do it. Those who can do, those who can’t teach, those who can’t do either, complain. I have a feeling you all complain about alot
Steve
Oh not only can I and most here write a screenplay, they can win the Oscar, too.
Maelyn P.
Except for how the story was put together, over-all I have enjoyed the content of star wars related content especially Rise of Skywalker (which I thought was probably the best Star wars movie to date.) I have enjoyed Rogue one, Solo and the rest of the content since Disneys take over. I know plenty of people who love Star Wars, that also enjoyed the new content
It’s interesting how some people are like those old grouchy folk we avoided as kids, just because they don’t like change. Because they didn’t like the way the storyline was going. And so they feel Kennedy needs to go. Everyone’s entitled to an opinion, it just shouldn’t be done with voices of hatred or anger. Star wars is for everyone not just for select few.
Dante
Ehh, we’ve heard this same report from a “trusted insider” two or three times now… I’ll believe shes gone when someone else is appointed to that role.
QueenElizabeth
Wait.. there’s a new Indiana Jones movie out?? Since when??
Jeremy
FIRE that woke hag already! She just ended Indy SHAMEFULLY.
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