Sequels, Reboots, Remakes, Redux…are “safe bets” from a creation standpoint, not necessarily a box office stand point for the studios, though, sequels in a successl franchise do do better than one off original titles.
Hollywood is like Vegas, its a gamble, original, or sequel. You just cant tell how it will be received, and what the box office will take.
Original stories as a reason for failure????weak argumwnt when you consider Toy Story, Cars, Frozen, were original stories at the time of the first film of each franchise.
So yes and no for the argument. Original stories would have better success if not for agenda heavy base storyline. To tell a tale, and convey a message or morale is one thing, but when you agendicize yhe base story line to push the “popular bandwagon trend” of a movement, thats where the failure is.
To an extent they are correct. There is way too much content out there but if an original story is good people will go see it. I just think they don’t appreciate being told what to believe and what’s acceptable for our children. The problem is right there and they can’t see it or admit it. Many don’t need to watch woke cartoons bottom line!
If you tell a good story, no problem. The problem is when you cannot leave your politics out, and these days those are dominated by the lefties that the lefty HR people hired.
Disney/Pixar used to be about great stories front and center, if there was an agenda/ moral lesson it was low key and secondary. These new movies shove the agenda in your face with the agenda being the core story not the characters. Elements is a movie about a mixed race couple as the primary subject. The fact that they are different elements is secondary which is not a movie I’m going to drop $ to see in the theaters. Why? Because it’s boring and I have better stuff to spend my money on.
If you want a successful movie go back to pure entertainment. No woke stuff. No trans. No Homosexual relationships. Just plain wholesome entertainment with a nice message. Not about diversity or immigration or purple hair social warrior stuff. Just about good winning out over evil. Nice saves the day.
Don’t take a movie that has already been made and try to change the characters to different races. Do the right thing and make a new original movie with new black or hispanic characters. Perhaps your marketing department should do some actual research and see what % of people go to your movies when they aren’t woke and what race/ethnicity they are. That’s your money pool and who you should be trying to entertain.
Then you will make money again unless your real motive is to try to groom kids to believe your woke ideology.
The 3 comments, all with random 2-letter names, whining about “woke” are likely the same person (or same conservative “think tank”).
I don’t see any “agenda” in Pixar or Disney’s recent movies. They are simply reflecting their audience (or at least, their Gen Z and younger audience) that includes a rich and diverse group of people.
Lol. Hope they keep it up. Watching them continue to fall on their face over and over is far more entertaining than any movie that they have made in years. But I’m sure you know best. Ha.ha
Nope. If you have to advertise the movie having “the first non-binary character” that’s THE MESSAGE and recent history should tell the execs checking boxes will likely cause disinterest.
Gen Z isn’t going to see the movies
Gen Z doesn’t have kids to see these movies
They are between 8-23
(Yes I know some are parents/ most arent)
Disney’s short called Out about a young man coming out to his family through his dog – no backlash no one up in arms..why? Because the point wasn’t hidden behind smoke and mirrors.
A strange world was terrible story telling but it threw every single “woke” kitchen sink item in its story telling – interracial couple, gay kid, generational differences (Boomer) and of course climate change – with so many boxes to tick off they forgot the story. If a topic is important enough pick ONE make it a new and original story.
My name is really only 3 characters 😂 l
I think the reason Elementals tanked at the box office is due to Disney/pixar’s failure to market the movie well. I have no idea what the movie is about or why I should go to the theater to see it. The trailer doesn’t give me a good idea of what the movie is about. It doesn’t peak my interest. The animation looks great, which would be expected from Pixar, but I have vary little idea about what the story is about. Why should I care about these characters or this story. I am not going to invest time and money on something when ⁰)Disney marketing doesn’t show me why I would want to. This is not the first time Disney has undersold a movie with boring, tells-you-nothing-about-the-story trailers. ]
The “original stories are hard” reason does not make sense when many Star Wars fans are complaining about what’s coming out of that franchise. Or the recent Buzz Lightyear movie, which didn’t do well. It would be great if you considered the story itself, and the political elements Disney feels compelled to add.
Fly on the wall here, Disney stockholder too and I can honestly say the issue is the agendas and politics the last few years. To keep denying this will mean continued pain for Disney. Everyone can love who they want etc but when the battleground becomes via the kids it’s forcing the issue into everyone’s living rooms and they have to pick sides.
It appears that the reasoning of streaming decreasing box office is excuse for B grade movies.
Disney for the most part has had messages in their movies. However it is normally good vs evil, or the underdog struggling to succeed. These are subtlety intertwined with good story telling. The latest trend of message first & lack of story is an issue. Families want entertainment, Disney has always been the de facto standard in that regard. It is a deflection to say people don’t want original content.
That said I have hope for the Elio movie based on it’s trailer.
Yes, because “people from different sides of the track realize they aren’t so different after all” has never been done before. Thankfully indie filmmakers are making original movies even if huge mega corporations don’t have a shred of imagination left.
The marketing was horrible, there was no draw for this film beyond having an overdone story with two basic main characters. I didn’t go to see it. What was I supposed to be excited about? Did the secondary characters have any important roles in the story? It just seemed very two-dimensional.
Comments for Pixar Failure Is Due to Original Stories, Says Disney Exec
Royz
Sequels Sequels Sequels….
Sequels, Reboots, Remakes, Redux…are “safe bets” from a creation standpoint, not necessarily a box office stand point for the studios, though, sequels in a successl franchise do do better than one off original titles.
Hollywood is like Vegas, its a gamble, original, or sequel. You just cant tell how it will be received, and what the box office will take.
Original stories as a reason for failure????weak argumwnt when you consider Toy Story, Cars, Frozen, were original stories at the time of the first film of each franchise.
So yes and no for the argument. Original stories would have better success if not for agenda heavy base storyline. To tell a tale, and convey a message or morale is one thing, but when you agendicize yhe base story line to push the “popular bandwagon trend” of a movement, thats where the failure is.
Joetuesday420
To an extent they are correct. There is way too much content out there but if an original story is good people will go see it. I just think they don’t appreciate being told what to believe and what’s acceptable for our children. The problem is right there and they can’t see it or admit it. Many don’t need to watch woke cartoons bottom line!
AH
If you tell a good story, no problem. The problem is when you cannot leave your politics out, and these days those are dominated by the lefties that the lefty HR people hired.
BF
Disney/Pixar used to be about great stories front and center, if there was an agenda/ moral lesson it was low key and secondary. These new movies shove the agenda in your face with the agenda being the core story not the characters. Elements is a movie about a mixed race couple as the primary subject. The fact that they are different elements is secondary which is not a movie I’m going to drop $ to see in the theaters. Why? Because it’s boring and I have better stuff to spend my money on.
LE
If you want a successful movie go back to pure entertainment. No woke stuff. No trans. No Homosexual relationships. Just plain wholesome entertainment with a nice message. Not about diversity or immigration or purple hair social warrior stuff. Just about good winning out over evil. Nice saves the day.
Don’t take a movie that has already been made and try to change the characters to different races. Do the right thing and make a new original movie with new black or hispanic characters. Perhaps your marketing department should do some actual research and see what % of people go to your movies when they aren’t woke and what race/ethnicity they are. That’s your money pool and who you should be trying to entertain.
Then you will make money again unless your real motive is to try to groom kids to believe your woke ideology.
Ronald
I’m in violent agreement!
EhCanadian
The 3 comments, all with random 2-letter names, whining about “woke” are likely the same person (or same conservative “think tank”).
I don’t see any “agenda” in Pixar or Disney’s recent movies. They are simply reflecting their audience (or at least, their Gen Z and younger audience) that includes a rich and diverse group of people.
Duznie
Lol. Hope they keep it up. Watching them continue to fall on their face over and over is far more entertaining than any movie that they have made in years. But I’m sure you know best. Ha.ha
Junior Samples
Nope. If you have to advertise the movie having “the first non-binary character” that’s THE MESSAGE and recent history should tell the execs checking boxes will likely cause disinterest.
Kim
Gen Z isn’t going to see the movies
Gen Z doesn’t have kids to see these movies
They are between 8-23
(Yes I know some are parents/ most arent)
Disney’s short called Out about a young man coming out to his family through his dog – no backlash no one up in arms..why? Because the point wasn’t hidden behind smoke and mirrors.
A strange world was terrible story telling but it threw every single “woke” kitchen sink item in its story telling – interracial couple, gay kid, generational differences (Boomer) and of course climate change – with so many boxes to tick off they forgot the story. If a topic is important enough pick ONE make it a new and original story.
My name is really only 3 characters 😂 l
Melanie
I think the reason Elementals tanked at the box office is due to Disney/pixar’s failure to market the movie well. I have no idea what the movie is about or why I should go to the theater to see it. The trailer doesn’t give me a good idea of what the movie is about. It doesn’t peak my interest. The animation looks great, which would be expected from Pixar, but I have vary little idea about what the story is about. Why should I care about these characters or this story. I am not going to invest time and money on something when ⁰)Disney marketing doesn’t show me why I would want to. This is not the first time Disney has undersold a movie with boring, tells-you-nothing-about-the-story trailers. ]
jkingsbery
The “original stories are hard” reason does not make sense when many Star Wars fans are complaining about what’s coming out of that franchise. Or the recent Buzz Lightyear movie, which didn’t do well. It would be great if you considered the story itself, and the political elements Disney feels compelled to add.
Nick
Fly on the wall here, Disney stockholder too and I can honestly say the issue is the agendas and politics the last few years. To keep denying this will mean continued pain for Disney. Everyone can love who they want etc but when the battleground becomes via the kids it’s forcing the issue into everyone’s living rooms and they have to pick sides.
Frankie
Nobody wants to see a cartoon about non binary mixed race gender fluid characters.
sfcpres
It appears that the reasoning of streaming decreasing box office is excuse for B grade movies.
Disney for the most part has had messages in their movies. However it is normally good vs evil, or the underdog struggling to succeed. These are subtlety intertwined with good story telling. The latest trend of message first & lack of story is an issue. Families want entertainment, Disney has always been the de facto standard in that regard. It is a deflection to say people don’t want original content.
That said I have hope for the Elio movie based on it’s trailer.
Marie
I loved the movie. Excellent!!!
Eh Conservitive
Go woke, go broke.
Sigurther
Yes, because “people from different sides of the track realize they aren’t so different after all” has never been done before. Thankfully indie filmmakers are making original movies even if huge mega corporations don’t have a shred of imagination left.
LuizZeppi
Has this guy been living under a rock? His “behemoth” franchises are all flopping hard: Indiana Flop, BuzzQueer Year, She-Marvel Universe…..
Sam
The marketing was horrible, there was no draw for this film beyond having an overdone story with two basic main characters. I didn’t go to see it. What was I supposed to be excited about? Did the secondary characters have any important roles in the story? It just seemed very two-dimensional.
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