If I was desantis, I would shut down all Disney transit, blockade all the entrances, raise all toll roads to $100, and charge everyone using Orlando Airport $1000.
Totally agree with you and could add more about all the dictator laws that DeSantis and the GOP led legislature has done at his beck and call. He’s made Florida a horrible state and this whole Disney fight proves it!! Wake up all of those who voted for this GOP FL legislative body they have not been helping Floridians.
DeSantis and the FL
Legislature don’t have constituents in mind as they pass bills banning speech, books, and people. They neglect the needs of their constituents, look at what’s going on with property insurance, the quality of our schools. They do this as they elimate fun safety laws and further endanger our children. This is not partisan, it’s a humanity thing. Please educate yourself
It is thriving now but wait til Desantis if he wins, he will destroy Florida’s tourism!! Not to mention 1 billion dollars tacked on to the Florida resident yearly!!!
Disney screws all the loyal disney fans, the ticket prices are stupid and they fill the park so full of people you cant even enjoy it. Then charge so much for fast pass tickets it’s ridiculous. I say charge them !!!!!
So u are complaining about not enough infrastructure for customers ? And u want to close the one tourist attraction that makes all the other sites happy? .. you have brain dead desantos syndrome
I agree. It is doubtfulnInwill be visiting Florida anytime soon Until those Dictator wannabe’s stop destroying the First Amendment. They have no ethics or morals and do not believe in our Constitution.
Governor Desantis is the Best thing that has happened to Florida in a long time. And it’s about time Disney was shown they don’t own Florida. You sound to me like a disgruntled snowflake. Don’t like Florida or our amazing Governor, then get the hell out!
Seems the ones TAKING AWAY RIGHTS ARE THE RIGHT…. JUST WAIT TILL THEY COME FOR YOUR RIGHTS…. OR I SHOULD SAY THE RIGHTS YOU HTHINK ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOMEONE ELSES RIGHTS – wake up before we become led by a dictator who tells you what your rights are.
Someone is already taking away your rights••••• Joey Biden— ya all had better pay attention to the bigger picture as we turn into a 3rd world country by an old DELUSIONAL FOOLISH BAFOON🙀
who thinks he’s a DICTATOR or KING, & we are his servants!!!!
PAY ATTENTION KIDS••••••■■
We are already there with the illegal moron in the Oval Office! Talk about determined to strip us of all rights, look right there along with all the rest of the demoncrats!
The Walt Disney Company is suing for
“declaratory and injunctive relief.”
Injunctive relief forces a party to act
in a certain way or prevents them
from doing various things. An
“injunction” is sometimes known as a
restraining order
THE Sheriff has a job to do and that is to enforce this INJUNCTION.
Come on law enforcement do your job.
It wasn’t about a word. The law was about not talking about sexuality to lower grades. Children go to school to learn content skills and be respectful with others, not to follow agendas about how to become trans, change your body or how I feel every morning when I look at the mirror when I am 6 yrs old. They should be learning skills and playing and socializing with other children. They can decide whatever they want to become when they mature and grow up as we did.
If you’ve never been that little boy or girl who struggle with their gender, then you don’t know they “feel” every morning. Stop minimizing these kids. Their struggle is real.
Discussions about identity are actually fundamental to childhood development. This is particularly evident in the fact that none of you lot have ever developed beyond childhood, because all of your identity is wrapped up in the letter R.
Disney has theme parks in California already. They should shift operations there and to other countries. Then start the exploratory process to find a new base of operations.
If I was Disney I would shut down the park indefinitely, while watching DeSantis stomp his short little legs having a temper tantrum over losing all those tourists $$. I think Disney can afford the loss, and use the time too make upgrades.
This is a vendetta fight for DeSantis nothing more. If not he would be pecking at the other parks as well. Nope Disney came here and turned a swamp into the biggest reason tourists flock here from all over the world , they employ the most people, they pay the highest taxes, they have honored their contracts ,and DeSantis can’t stand not having control. He is a mini Napoleon who wears cowboy boots because they have a higher heel then mens shoes. He and Moody claim this isn’t a personal fight for him? Well his lackey Randy Fine put out a whole article about how it is a personal fight for DeSantis. Maybe you should read it? It’s full of petty things like what happens when you kick a hornet’s nest and blah, blah.
That’s bull the governor did the right thing when he did that he made Disney equal to the every day person in Florida. I can’t build something without a permit they can issue their own permits. Where is that fair?
Disney def could not afford to shut down WDW. This was a mutually beneficial relationship between the state of FL and the DIS company. Disney made it much less beneficial to the people of the state of FL by speaking out against a child protection law that was put into place by the leaders elected by the people of the state of FL.
I agree! Desantis bit off more than he can chew. Disney doesn’t need Florida. He needs to put his ego in check as his actions really only hurt the people of Florida who work for Disney. DiSantis needs to remember that.
Why are you so much against Disney? Are you against people enjoying themselves? Disney’s a bit expensive, but the time spent in enjoyment is well worth it. I’d really miss Disney, if they had to leave Florida. And its all about the governor’s irritation that a Disney official disagreed with him, & the news made it public.
Lol Diane will never be able to leave Florida. They’ve spent waaaay to much money and time on infrastructure to just head somewhere else. Its not like you can just put the castle in your suitcase.
No, but the Federal Government can make Florida reimburse Disney for any monetary losses. This could include the billions put into property improvements. It would bankrupt Florida for generations.
Desantis cares about kids in his state. He passed laws that show this. Disney does not–they rejected the pro-children laws and spoke out openly saying they were against them. Since Disney has made it clear they are have made an about-face on their original 50 year old mandates and are now anti-children, they should be thoroughly inspected and held to a VERY high standard to prove to FL, the country, and the entire world that they have the safety and best interests of children at heart.
Desantis is doing this in every legal way he can, and those of use who care about children are applauding him with every move.
Sidenote: we ALL know that moving out of FL is almost completely impossible for Disney. They can start a new location, but they will not be leaving FL. Therefore they are responsible to leaders the people of FL elected to have transp options inspected to ensure they meet FL state safety standards. They should have been responsible to this higher authority all along, but they weren’t, they maintained thier own internal reporting of all incidents through the Reedy Creek Improv District, and had no oversight.
Nah. He cares about all kids having parents (of any color or creed) to be directly involved in every aspect of the decisions they make. That’s pro-ALL kids.
Florida’s “Parental Rights in Education” legislation bans instruction about sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade.
Read the law, process it and then give an informed statement
If he really cared about kids he would do something about gun violence in this state. He would also do more to support teachers rather than handcuff them. As a former educator, I find his politics frightening and would never teach here. ps – I love going to Disney and even have an annual pass!@
Frightening? How is protecting kids and giving parents the authority to teach them and guide them at the youngest ages “frightening”?
What is frightening is that my son with boy DNA (provable easily through actual well-researched SCIENCE) would be cultivated to somehow think of himself as a girl or anything other than “boy”. Same with my girls.
If I want to teach them those things, I am free in our society to do that, but I CERTAINLY don’t want my kids teacher of the WD company doing it without my permission.
Oh yeah. The same kinds of laws that the Islamic Republic of Iran and Saudis Arabia have against Gay people. But hey he’s “protecting children” . Maybe you don’t like freedom of speech and should move to Iran
Florida’s “Parental Rights in Education” legislation bans instruction about sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade.
Please read the law and process it.
It’s not against what you said.
I want my children in Kinder learning to read and doing math not being experts in sexuality at 5 yrs old. I can see reading is not your forte my free speech friend.
If you are a human being you would understand if they close or Disney leaves Florida Orlando will no longer be a tourist destination anymore. The city will die just because someone spoke up to a very short man.
[Inset loud guffawing here] If Dis somehow found a way to close the parks, there would be for-sale sign on them. Every other entertainment company in the country would be circling, waiting to snap them up. How amazing would it be for FL if 4 different well-managed companies each purchaded a park??? It would be BEAUTIFUL for Orlando and all of the state of FL.
Super dumb idea. Keep it legal and ethical (read my comments below.)
Disney needs to be brought into conformity with FL state safety regulations and laws. Up to this point they have been playing with an unfair advantage against most competitors in that sector.
No that would be punishing guests who have done nothing wrong. What DeSantis is doing will be more than sufficient to make Bob Iger think twice, maybe more, before having Disney stick its nose into state business again
Respectfully, Mr Govenor: Leave Disney alone!!!! You’re simply making yourself look foolish by trying to take down the biggest tax payer in the state, plus the largest tourist attraction bringing billions of dollars to our state every year. Go try and win votes somewhere else, I can assure you this bone you have with Disney has become personal and it’s destroying your passion and love for America.
ridiculous to keep biting the hand that’s responsible for turning florida into one of the top 3 tourist destinations in the world! you people have lost all sight of common sense !!!!!
Just to be clear, you are advocating for thousands of people to lose their jobs at Disney and surrounding businesses along with billions lost in tax revenue.
Seems like a great idea.
Sorry to tell you but the only people it will be squealing is you. when your taxes of went through the roof. Disney is the largest employer in the state of Florida. It also is the largest tax revenue. So Disney has a right to have an educated opinion. unlike yours. like I have a right to an educated opinion. oh and to Mr. DeSantis, gay gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay.
That makes no sense; Disney is a major employer and driver of revenue for the state. Make it impossible for people to visit and Florida shoots itself in the foot.
Younclearly don’t live in FL. Sure….bankrupt Disney, see what happens to FL. They are the largest single-payer of taxes in central FL. No big deal, right? You should, instead, be very concerned with DeSantis’s authoritarian power grab. A Governor is not a King, as a President is not a King. We do not live in an autocratic society.
If I was desantis, I would shut down all Disney transit, blockade all the entrances, raise all toll roads to $100, and charge everyone using Orlando Airport $1000.
I’m all for punishing Disney. They’ve made everything so expensive, they’ve pushed out the common middle class family from going to Disney World! Not to mention, why would we allow a private corporation to have self governanc?I know why Walt needed it back in the 60s and 70s but the Disney company is not the same. They’ve replaced magic for money.
You dont get it Karen. Because of how Reedy Creek was set up when Disney began in Orlando they never had to pay the state a dime for anything. Im pretty sure Universal and Seaworld pay the state. Now Disney just needs to put on their big boy pants and do what other companies do in the state. Florida doesnt need to pay Disney anything.
You literally don’t know what you’re talking about. 1. They are the largest singe taxpayer in central FL. They also pay for many of the public services in that area, which the government will now have to pay. That’s funny… Not a dime.
FL did not “take over” the transpo systems at WDW–they have confirmed the right of the state of FL to INSPECT them for safety based on the laws of the state of FL.
The article is suggesting that upon inspecting them, the state of FL inspectors could deem them unsafe and cause them to cease operation until the issue is corrected.
Desantis so far has pursued LEGAL solutions to the illegal and unethical structure of the Reedy Creek Improvement District (which had been set up in the first place ONLY because the state of FL believed that W. Disney’s view of EPCOT would be an actual community of rented or purchased dwellings with a construct allowing the “experimental community” to actively and continually go into each home to make changes like technologically advanced lightbulbs, or a newly designed power structure or larger community changes like compehesive solar panels or transit options to attempt to better connnect the people living there to their place of work –this was what people were expected to sign up for when rented or purchased a home with EPCOT. The moment EPCOT became an entertainment location only, the RCID was instantly illegal and unethical, but no one went back and revisited it to make the area fall once again under the safety and regulatory authority of the state of FL)
Trying to lash out at the WD company in illegal ways would be completely counter-productive to the goal–bringing them into confirmity with state laws and safety regs and properly utilizing the land surrounding the parks that was previously managed by the RCID. KEEP IT LEGAL.
You did not explain or clarify your own argument, nor how mine was wrong.
When Walt propsed EPCOT, it was a living space, not a business space. Just like every HOA in the country, governing the people within it. The moment it ceased to be that, it did not have a proper role of governing a living space. Then it became an arm of the business space, but governing on its own as though it was a living space. At that point it became illegal. (Look the history up. I did.)
Ha! Ha! People on here suggesting that Disney pack up and leave Florida are hilarious. Disney couldn’t afford to leave Florida. If they closed WDW down, their stockholders would take a huge hit and it would reverberate throughout the company. It would destroy what we know as Disney. If Disney had simply stayed out of politics, where it has no business, and stayed in it’s lane of Entertainment, there would be no problems. Disney is sleeping in the bed it made. Best they could do is make a public announcement that they will no longer participate in any political arguments and will have, nor make, any political statements or support any political groups. That would give the control of their parks a better chance of being left alone. There are too many parents in the State of Florida and all over the country who were offended by Disney’s stance of supporting the teaching of sex or transgender information to any young children really stirred the hornets nest. Blame is ALL on Disney.
That was all you had to say in response to a well-written, detailed comment? “Do what we want…?”
OP Roger’s posted stated his case beautifully, including “Disney couldn’t afford to leave Florida.”
“Disney is sleeping in the bed it made.”
“…public announcement…”
“…offended by Disney’s stance…”
“..supporting the teaching of sex or transgender information to any young children…”
You could have addressed any of it. Nope. Ya didnt.
[Sarcastic voice] Well played, brother. Well played.
Desanus has torpedoed his short little fat legs right out from under himself. His hopes of Presidency, long gone. He has lost too many donors and this was before he tripled down on his hubris. Desanus is not very bright. The House of Mouse is going to own him again and again. They are using the best lawyers ever, Desanus is using public servants…the C and D students of law school.
Most Disney guests don’t come from Florida. You do know if Disney was not there, your property taxes, sales taxes, income taxes would increase to fill the void. I lived in Nevada, we had no state income tax because of all of the tax revenue that the casinos paid. If that revenue disappeared, where do you think the money will come from?
This seems true until you unpack the economics issues. In your example the casinos in Nevada provided tax revenue. 4 things happen and continue to:
1. The people in the state (especially in the vicinity of the casinos) get poorer when casinos are installed. This is proven country-wide, in every single sector.
2. The casinos leverage the taxes they pay into influence with lawmakers. After all, they are the largest taxpayers in the state.
3. The lawmakers make laws that promote the welfare of the casinos, not the individual state residents. The laws the benefit the casinos usually increase the income of the casinos causing them to pay more taxes (which money is then used to further the cause of the casinos in a self-perpetuating machine)
4. The residents generally assume a hard life would be even HARDER if the casinos were not there. In reality, the opposite is true.
Disney historically has wielded ridiculous self-perpetuating influence in the state of FL historically. Those who understand the above economic facts recognize that the taxes they pay and the influence WD wields is to the benefit primarily of the WD company, and the people of FL have an overpriced, if not very nice, place to come for a day of entertainment.
The state of FL is experiencing a massive economic boom, and by ALL counts the residency in the state is shooting up. This is all AT THE SAME TIME AS the FL leadership is bringing DIS into conformity.
Have you asked yourselves why businesses would flock to a state that you all are describing as oppressive to business?
[Whispering] “…because they know it’s now a FAIR playing field, and the decisions of state leadership are BETTER for business, not worse.”
Disney is a multibillion dollar company. They spoke out against the Florida law because they determined it was in their best financial interests to do so. Reedy Creek had to change because the day to day cost was shown to be too much in the event of an extended park closure. As an entertainment giant, they have to stay at the edge of an evolving society and Covid advanced that line. Eiger stepped aside so a principled penny pincher could do so while it could be blamed on Covid, then it would seem he came back as secretly planned once the company could afford to be creative again.
Your takeaways on the Eiger return are pretty insightful. I have thought recently that he may have seen the storm coming, and this may have been his plan all along.
Desantis will lose that lawsuit Disney filed against him because although he denies everything there saying about he is retailiating his dumb azz wrote about in his book that he is. Heard there moving to Georgia to. They’ll take 80,000 jobs with them and Florida will lose from the tourist.
In Los Angeles during the mid-1950s, teenager Jim Stark is arrested and taken to the juvenile division of a police station for public intoxication. At the station he crosses paths with John “Plato” Crawford, who was brought in for killing a litter of puppies, and Judy, who was brought in for curfew violation. The three each separately reveal their innermost frustrations to the officers; all three of them suffer from problems at home:
Jim feels betrayed and anguished by his constantly bickering parents, Frank and Carol, but even more so by his father’s timid attitude and failure to stand up to Carol; the issues are further complicated by Frank’s interfering mother. His frustrations are made manifest to officer Ray Fremick when Jim is released to their custody.
Judy is convinced that her father ignores her because she is no longer a little girl, so she dresses up in racy clothes to get attention, which only causes her father to call her a “dirty tramp”.
Plato’s father abandoned his family when he was a toddler, and his mother is often away from home, leaving Plato in the care of his housekeeper.
On the way to his first day at Dawson High, Jim again meets Judy and offers her a ride. Seemingly unimpressed by Jim at first, she declines and is instead picked up by her “friends”, a gang of delinquents led by Buzz Gunderson. Jim is shunned by the rest of the student body but is befriended by Plato, who comes to idolize Jim as a father figure.
After a field trip to Griffith Observatory, Buzz provokes and challenges Jim to a knife fight. Jim beats Buzz in the knife fight, knocking the switchblade out of his hand and pressing the blade of his own knife against Buzz’s neck, and then throws it away. To preserve his status as gang leader, Buzz suggests stealing some cars to have a “Chickie Run” at a seaside cliff.[7] At home, Jim ambiguously asks his father for advice about defending one’s honor in a dangerous situation, but Frank advises him against confrontation of any kind. That night, during the chickie run, Buzz plunges to his death when the strap on his jacket sleeve becomes entangled with his door-latch lever, preventing him from exiting the car in time. As police approach, the gang flees, leaving Judy behind, but Jim patiently persuades her to leave with him and Plato.
Jim confronts his father while his mother watches.
Jim later confides to his parents his involvement in the crash and considers turning himself in. When Carol declares they are moving again, Jim protests and pleads with Frank to stand up for him; but when Frank refuses, Jim attacks him in frustration, then storms off to the police station to confess, only to be turned away by the desk sergeant. Jim drives back home, and finds Judy waiting for him. She apologizes for her prior treatment of him due to peer pressure, and the two begin to fall in love. Agreeing that they will never return to their respective homes, Jim suggests they visit an old deserted mansion Plato told him about.
Meanwhile, Plato is intercepted by three members of Buzz’s gang, who are convinced that Jim betrayed them to the police. They steal Plato’s address book and go off after Jim; Plato retrieves his mother’s gun and leaves to warn Jim and Judy, finding them at the mansion. The three new friends act out a fantasy as a family. Plato then falls asleep, and Jim and Judy leave to explore the mansion, where they share their first kiss and voice their love. Buzz’s gang find and wake up Plato, who, frightened and distraught, shoots and wounds one of the gang. When Jim returns, he attempts to restrain Plato, but he flees, accusing Jim of leaving him
No. You are horribly wrong. They have a right just like you or I to speak out against what our government is doing. Our Constitution protects that right. If you think any of the repercussions DeSantis is doing is Ok, then you need to go back and learn how our Constitutional Republic (ie, NOT a democratic government) is supposed to work. Disney is 100% in the right here.
Love how people say corporations should stay out of politics but never seem to mind when those same corporations donate money to campaigns of those they support.
Wait…so Disney should stay out of politics, but not EVERY other company that dumps unlimited amounts of money into Super PACs (thanks Citizens United)? So in other words, as long as It’s a conservative run companyz influence politics all you want, but by God if you don’t toe the line for the GOP, we will abuse our power to hurt your business? (Also anti conservative). Lol. Lord the two faces…. I can’t.
Wait until the little man (?) tries to silence you. He is trampling all over free speech like the dictator he thinks he should be. Four years is a long time for him to strip rights away from all of us.
He is a horrible governor…wake up.
DeInSanetis has made it clear he has a vengeful vendetta against Disney. It’s purely punitive and he’s stated as much. Same guy who has banned books, for all intents and purposes banned abortion, banned girls from discussing puberty, all in the manner of fascists before him.
Disney operated within the confines of an agreement it made decades ago with Florida, then acted legally in accordance with Florida’s Sunshine Laws while trouncing Herr Ronnie at his own game.
He’s already decent millions of taxpayers dollars on this vendetta while ignoring our infrastructure, schools, healthcare, property insurance costs etc etc, the real things that affect Floridians.
I pity the nation if he were to be president some day. Goodbye liberties, hello authoritarianism.
If Desantis cared so much about the children, he would ensure that good teachers are recruited and retained in his state and also tighten gun laws which kill students in his state everyday. Those are the issues most affecting our children.
Desantis is throwing a tantrum because he can’t get his way. In the same way he’s trying to indoctrinate the students of Florida and the uneducated, he’s trying to impose his beliefs on corporate Disney. His freaking dictatorship stance can only operate in Florida because he has the judges on his side. He is an angry spoilt child who could never be president. I can’t wait to see Mickey Mouse puke all over him. Desantis must go!!!
Indoctrinating? The law passed by the elected reps of the state of FL is exactly the OPPOSITE of indoctrinating.
How is protecting kids by giving parents the authority to teach them and guide them at the youngest ages “indoctrinating”?
“Indoctrination” would be my elementary-age son with boy DNA (provable easily through actual well-researched SCIENCE) would be cultivated through the ed system of FL to somehow think of himself as a girl or anything other than “boy”. Same with my girls. Or be attracted at that age to ANY gender, let alone the same gender as his actual DNA.
If I want to teach them those things, I am free in our society to do that, but I CERTAINLY don’t want my kids teacher or the WD company doing it without my permission.
what I dont understand is how there are so many people who never took biology classes?
Was biology not taught in schools in Florida? How can a HEALTHY and well adjusted child be made to think of themselves as the opposite gender?
That’s just not possible. To understand gender dysmorphia you study the BRAIN.
We need adult biology/psychology classes offered to those who want to understand how human life actually works, both mentally and physically.
And why are conservatives so frightened of girls learning about their bodies??? Can’t discuss menstruation, that’s insane!
Are you suggesting there are only 2 genders? And anyone who thinks outside that binary box needs to have thier head looked at? Yet you refer in your post critically to “conservatives.” Interesting…
Im not “frightened” at all. But with someone as crazy and confused as you and other posters on this site, I don’t just WANT the freedom to teach my OWN kids about the birds and the bees in my own timing, I INSIST that YOU dont attempt to teach them those things.
Menstruation? Ha. “Turning Red” is disgusting in so many ways, and not a topic fit for a kids national movie release. We’ve done a fine job teaching our own kids about the topic, as should every parent, and dont need any help from the company that brings my tots stories about Disney princess.
Disney went from fun, lighthearted animation under Walt, to seedy and rebellious under Eisner, and now attempting to tackle tough parenting topics (as though parents in general are useless and cant do this themselves) under Eiger/Chapek. I had kids because I want them, love them, and fully expect to parent them. Disney’s foolish attempts to “help” have done anything but.
You come across to me as a little nuts, so stay away from my kids (or any kids, for that matter).
I’m losing all respect for DeSantis I need the tourism to come here my business relies on it Mr. bully head I want to make a difference where it really matters
I do, because I live in Wisconsin. I hated him so much. We are still living with the boneheaded decisions he made. He gutted the education system. I’ve worked in higher ed for 30 years in different states. He torpedoed college enrollment and high school graduation which was already very low (under 50% in some counties). If students drop out of high school, there is no way for them to go to college.
I remember him. He initiated school choice for all students. The horror. Imagine putting children first. Whereas the left just wants to groom your children . Disney should have stayed silent on the parental bill which irurscts children from the deviant left. So simple. SMH.
If they dont submit to state safety and regulatory inspections and oversight by the Florida state reps elected by the peopleof FL, thats exactly what he should do.
Disney and the Florida lawmakers need to redo the 50 yo agreement made to help lure Disney to Florida. Both sides need to work on it but it has to be updated.
Also, Desantis needs to stop making stupid statements and decisions and just do normal governor stuff.
Disney is a major source of revenue for Florida. In this fight, the people will pay the price. Putting Fl’s economy in jeopardy speaks volume as to what are the priorities of the Gov. All this began because Disney stated that “all” are welcomed ? What a horrible company. !? Seriously WTF.
Somebody told you this, right? You are just using a line from someone trying to fool you.
The economic isse seems true until you unpack it. Taking casinos for example: 4 things happen and continue to when states bring in casinos:
1. The people in the state (especially in the vicinity of the casinos) get poorer when casinos are installed. This is proven country-wide, in every single sector.
2. The casinos leverage the taxes they pay into influence with lawmakers. After all, they are the largest taxpayers in the state.
3. The lawmakers make laws that promote the welfare of the casinos, not the individual state residents. The laws the benefit the casinos usually increase the income of the casinos causing them to pay more taxes (which money is then used to further the cause of the casinos in a self-perpetuating machine)
4. The residents generally assume a hard life would be even HARDER if the casinos were not there. In reality, the opposite is true.
Disney historically has wielded ridiculous self-perpetuating influence in the state of FL historically. Those who understand the above economic facts recognize that the taxes they pay and the influence WD wields is to the benefit primarily of the WD company, and the people of FL have an overpriced, if not very nice, place to come for a day of entertainment.
The state of FL is experiencing a massive economic boom within the last year, and by ALL counts the residency in the state is shooting up. This is all AT THE SAME TIME AS the FL leadership is bringing DIS into conformity.
Have you asked yoursef why businesses would flock to a state that you all are describing as oppressive to business?
[Whispering] “…because they know it’s now a FAIR playing field, and the decisions of state leadership are BETTER for business, not worse.”
DeSantis comes across as volatile, unstable, aggressive and immature. IF he ever had any kind of good reputation, it’s gone now. He’s more of a joke than anything. The epitome of “sore loser”.
I see no reason why Disney should be treated special. They should be the same as everyone else in the state. I can’t make my own inspections and have my regulations that I write ! I don’t get tax breaks why should a Billion dollar Corp. !?
The actions that Desantis is doing is not new. There wasn’t enough votes to do it before. It is something that should have been done long ago. Disney should be on a level playing ground just like everyone else.
Forcing our representatives to create legislation impacting Floridians long after he retires, Desantis will cut Florida’s, & Federal, tax revenues.
By stifling Big Businesses’ autonomy, enacting laws & regulations on whims, he can close down a major tourism industry indefinitely, much like a hurricane could decimate it.
With job losses, small businesses disappear, major businesses will close existing FL branches or build locations & operation centers elsewhere. Increased costs borne by consumers create recessions and social insecurity. No one will want to come here to live or visit, due to increased warmer weather, the invasive plants, insects, and wildlife, threat of Wildfires, or severe weather, lack of sustainable housing, jobs, etc.
He blames others for inflation & poor economic conditions. Is this Republican Party leadership?
The Republican party used to represent big business as America was conceived as a republic, allowing free trade, under a DEMOCRACY. government income, so that we prosper and the government is able to defend AMERICAN CITIZENS. Through all service branches.
Haha, you are truly funny. That is quite the nuclear winter argument you make.
Elsewhere in these messages, we have detailed that taxes paid by monopolizing corps are always leveraged to increase thier own income and benefit, and rarely if ever the benefit of the people in the state, other than providing an entertaining distraction. This self perpetuates thier power, income, corporate benefits, all while they point to all the taxes they pay and say, “We can do what we want bc you cant afford not to have us.” Casinos are a classic case-in-point.
We also described that if DIS closes the parks, they would sell. If they sell, every major entertainment co would circle waiting to snap them up. How amazing for Orlando and FL if 4 diff companies bought and began to operate the DIS parks? New features, rides, and fun, all with 4 new companies to enjoy, and [hopefully] none of the drama or price gouging!
Lastly, we detailed that while the state has been battling DIS, businesses and families have been RACING to relocate to FL, making this the most economic improvement and tax revenue the state has ever seen. The business boom in historically liberal Miami is a great example of this, and is veing duplicated across the state.
If the DIS fight was projected to be the start of a business-oppressing era in FL, why would any biz come? They wouldnt, they would pick up and move.
Everyone (except a few on this site, I guess) recognizes that the end of the DIS oppression in FL is the start of a brilliant new economic future for the state of FL.
How hypocritical and childish. This is a personal vendetta because a child man can’t have his way. Why is it that our Florida government fights for businesses rights to not require masks or vaccinations, right to not serve people of the LGBT community but… if a business has contrary beliefs to our dictatorship, they use OUR tax dollars to harass them. The Supreme Court decided that corporations are people too, when they allowed them to contribute ungodly amounts to political campaigns. However, now they have opposing views they are harassed? Disney is the largest employer in Florida, and the largest destination for tourism. This hurts us all. Censorship of free speech . So much wrong with this whole situation, Santis is a Man Child and a bully.
I am glad that out state of Florida is running so smooth and everyone is living a great life, with no homeliness. That our governor can focus on controlling one company
What next pay to ride the monorail? Come on elected officials do your job
If he really cared about kids he would do something about gun violence in this state. He would also do more to support teachers rather than handcuff them. As a former educator, I find his politics frightening and would never teach here. ps – I love going to Disney and even have an annual pass!@
Government attacking private business, the only thing that can come from this is bad, bad, bad.
That’s why Florida is the joke of the country.
Good luck, the rest of the entire country is behind Disney 100%
This is America. We have freedom to voice our displeasure with our government. DeSantis must believe in totalitarianism.
Disagree with him and he’ll destroy you.
I’m so happy that I’m me , not Sir DeSantis.
The worth thing of life may be is to be homeless , and had see also people who may had been at Disney . See those in their astral form, see them so close to me … see and feel only their pain ..My past torture, the real evil action were hide at that time … many year ago.
Today ,The good thing is to heal , by God and the providence power .however many year passed. Be thankful and filled my life with respect …it is possible …
I had ear about Disney but I never been.
If we can control self and understand how to stop our own shadow be activated by another soul , the solution and result must flow easily .
Thanks a lot
The copyright to their mouse logo should have expired years ago. Disney is used to having politicos locked in their back pocket. Refreshing to see FL finally standing up to them.
The real Peter Parker wouldn’t be writing all of this. Banning books, abortion and sexual education is wrong . An educated person can make better choices.
Having kids commit suicide because they cant talk about their feelings of a different sexual orientation or an unwanted, untimely pregnancy with an educator (that hopefully has the compassion and integrity of caring for their student) is inhumane. My body my choice.
Morals , manners , compassion , tolerance, the value of life and religion starts at home. Evidently DeSantis had a sad strict childhood or the aliens forgot to remove the probe from his rear end. I bet no one in his family has been in WDW…or have they? Hmmm how many lawyers can Disney afford? Peter go crawl back underneath the rock you came from.
Disney doesn’t need Desantis or Florida. They need Disney. If I were them, I’d pull out of that ungrateful place. It’s clear that it’s a witch hunt. Get em where it hurts, in their pockets. Other states would be ecstatic to have that revenue. Go Disney, all the way!!!
DeSsantis is an ignorant buffoon. I really hope Disney wins there lawsuit. I loved to go to Florida but as long as parents can tell teachers what to teach. They’re all gay
So looks like all we have to say is “Gay” to get the governor to do something..if only all of this energy could be focused on one of the biggest issues in FL, which is keeping our kids safe every day in school..maybe instead of protesting to stop guns they should hold signs calling him gay and something will actually get done. Leave Disney alone it’s one of the reasons we have tourism here and it’s the happiest place on earth..just let everyone be happy. Put that energy on actually doing some good and change where it needs to be.
Disney Corporation does not raise children , they seek to change children into Freeks. Parents raise children not an entertainment company from California.
Disney is having problems in Florida because they left the entrainment business and entered politics. They are now trying to raise your children. DISNEY asked for this. Some times you get what you ask for.
That’s because people are too lazy to follow Family Values. When they raise children guaranteed. So when people go into the park they misbehave and they cause a lot of trouble to those guests who are impaired. And the chili pepper Governor he’s so pissed off because he don’t get a free ride.
I only hope Disney files another few lawsuits against Ronda Santis and Florida for their interference with a private company’s operations. So many things Florida needs to work on, this is the one thing they can pass with little discussion
Many Thanks Ron DeSantis ! Common Sense and doing Right . The Left have turned the Vote and Taxation into Organized Crime . Florida today is a guiding light that means to Stomp Out that and return the Trust the Democratic Party has virtually destroyed across America , Bravo Ron DeSantis …. !
Disney should announce that they will be closing for a month of maintenance. Layoff about 60,000 of their 75,000 employees and keep the others for maintenance. Then show FL the $75 billion impact on the state
Comments for Florida Senate Takes Over Disney’s Monorails
SS
If I was desantis, I would shut down all Disney transit, blockade all the entrances, raise all toll roads to $100, and charge everyone using Orlando Airport $1000.
Make Disney squeal…
88
I agree, time to Nucleer on Disney.
Dis
Of course, we should listen to the people who can’t spell.
Maybe there’s a reason there aren’t any conservative first world countries.
KD
Totally agree with you and could add more about all the dictator laws that DeSantis and the GOP led legislature has done at his beck and call. He’s made Florida a horrible state and this whole Disney fight proves it!! Wake up all of those who voted for this GOP FL legislative body they have not been helping Floridians.
peterparker22
Florida is thriving by most major economic indicators. Exactly how are they making FL horrible?
Your worldview is screwed on completely backwards.
Jose jomenez
No yours is
Dawn
DeSantis and the FL
Legislature don’t have constituents in mind as they pass bills banning speech, books, and people. They neglect the needs of their constituents, look at what’s going on with property insurance, the quality of our schools. They do this as they elimate fun safety laws and further endanger our children. This is not partisan, it’s a humanity thing. Please educate yourself
Kirk
It is thriving now but wait til Desantis if he wins, he will destroy Florida’s tourism!! Not to mention 1 billion dollars tacked on to the Florida resident yearly!!!
Kad
Disney screws all the loyal disney fans, the ticket prices are stupid and they fill the park so full of people you cant even enjoy it. Then charge so much for fast pass tickets it’s ridiculous. I say charge them !!!!!
Jesj
So u are complaining about not enough infrastructure for customers ? And u want to close the one tourist attraction that makes all the other sites happy? .. you have brain dead desantos syndrome
Joe
Ron Desanctimonious is a bully who wants to take his ball home because he got mad when someone had an opposing view.
Tina
That is the 💯% truth
MFH
He sounds more like Putin everyday
Carrie greer
I really don’t know how he got in. I didn’t vote for him and all he has done was make people want to leave Florida. He is killing florida
Cynthia
I agree. It is doubtfulnInwill be visiting Florida anytime soon Until those Dictator wannabe’s stop destroying the First Amendment. They have no ethics or morals and do not believe in our Constitution.
Luci Liguori
Governor Desantis is the Best thing that has happened to Florida in a long time. And it’s about time Disney was shown they don’t own Florida. You sound to me like a disgruntled snowflake. Don’t like Florida or our amazing Governor, then get the hell out!
peterparker22
There is a political push and pull in most 1st-world nations. What are you talking about? Geez. Do some homework.
Harry
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣spot on!!!!
CD
Disney has become an empire of radical thieves. They have billions and they pay taxes as other corps do?
RR
Seems the ones TAKING AWAY RIGHTS ARE THE RIGHT…. JUST WAIT TILL THEY COME FOR YOUR RIGHTS…. OR I SHOULD SAY THE RIGHTS YOU HTHINK ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOMEONE ELSES RIGHTS – wake up before we become led by a dictator who tells you what your rights are.
HarleyRich
Someone is already taking away your rights••••• Joey Biden— ya all had better pay attention to the bigger picture as we turn into a 3rd world country by an old DELUSIONAL FOOLISH BAFOON🙀
who thinks he’s a DICTATOR or KING, & we are his servants!!!!
PAY ATTENTION KIDS••••••■■
Luci Liguori
We are already there with the illegal moron in the Oval Office! Talk about determined to strip us of all rights, look right there along with all the rest of the demoncrats!
Polydvcer
There’s a reason all socialist liberal countries fall into poverty and failure. I think one typo is small in comparison.
Steve
WTF are you talking about…dozens of conservative first world countries in the world you Goof Ball🤡
Steven
The Walt Disney Company is suing for
“declaratory and injunctive relief.”
Injunctive relief forces a party to act
in a certain way or prevents them
from doing various things. An
“injunction” is sometimes known as a
restraining order
THE Sheriff has a job to do and that is to enforce this INJUNCTION.
Come on law enforcement do your job.
Theresa
Imagine all of this started because of one word. GAY… If Desantis will do this to Disney every corporation in Florida will be next. Welcome to Russia
Values
It wasn’t about a word. The law was about not talking about sexuality to lower grades. Children go to school to learn content skills and be respectful with others, not to follow agendas about how to become trans, change your body or how I feel every morning when I look at the mirror when I am 6 yrs old. They should be learning skills and playing and socializing with other children. They can decide whatever they want to become when they mature and grow up as we did.
Rick V
Spot on!
Bob Smith
So youthink that all they’d ever talk about is sexuality?
Michael
Here is a hint, no one was doing that. It is a stupid, mean spirited, and meaningless law. Disney was right to speak out against it.
bcats
I agree 100%. The insanity has to stop! The people who push insanity must be accountable!
Me
If you’ve never been that little boy or girl who struggle with their gender, then you don’t know they “feel” every morning. Stop minimizing these kids. Their struggle is real.
Desantisacuck
Discussions about identity are actually fundamental to childhood development. This is particularly evident in the fact that none of you lot have ever developed beyond childhood, because all of your identity is wrapped up in the letter R.
Carrie greer
Your 💯 correct
Sean
Disney has theme parks in California already. They should shift operations there and to other countries. Then start the exploratory process to find a new base of operations.
GSL
No, time to do a Bug’s Bunny, saw Fla off the USA and watch it and all the rabid GOP sink and drown.
Sassy
If I was Disney I would shut down the park indefinitely, while watching DeSantis stomp his short little legs having a temper tantrum over losing all those tourists $$. I think Disney can afford the loss, and use the time too make upgrades.
This is a vendetta fight for DeSantis nothing more. If not he would be pecking at the other parks as well. Nope Disney came here and turned a swamp into the biggest reason tourists flock here from all over the world , they employ the most people, they pay the highest taxes, they have honored their contracts ,and DeSantis can’t stand not having control. He is a mini Napoleon who wears cowboy boots because they have a higher heel then mens shoes. He and Moody claim this isn’t a personal fight for him? Well his lackey Randy Fine put out a whole article about how it is a personal fight for DeSantis. Maybe you should read it? It’s full of petty things like what happens when you kick a hornet’s nest and blah, blah.
Wally
DeSantis needs to go
David larkin
That’s bull the governor did the right thing when he did that he made Disney equal to the every day person in Florida. I can’t build something without a permit they can issue their own permits. Where is that fair?
Steve
Disney and Florida entered into a legal contract. Btw: the are 1200 situations like Reddy Creek.
Maurice Smith
Like The Villages….
Jack hoff
The Santas cause my taxes to go up the bastard
peterparker22
Really, your tax assessments already changed??? You are so full of poo.
Tom McMahon
Agreed!
Michael
Except for that pesky first amendment thing.
Shrldon
Are you a corporation? Trying to see how your comment is relevant here…
Karen Higgins
I totally agree! DeSantis is nothing more than an overgrown spoiled brat that can’t get his own way.
Dl
Acting like a spoiled brat that wants his way. Threaten to build a prison next to a resort that attracts children. Really! Crazy…
Bobbi
I agree. He’s a egocentric jerk.
peterparker22
Disney def could not afford to shut down WDW. This was a mutually beneficial relationship between the state of FL and the DIS company. Disney made it much less beneficial to the people of the state of FL by speaking out against a child protection law that was put into place by the leaders elected by the people of the state of FL.
Melissa
I agree! Desantis bit off more than he can chew. Disney doesn’t need Florida. He needs to put his ego in check as his actions really only hurt the people of Florida who work for Disney. DiSantis needs to remember that.
jose melendez
Agree 100% well said
Mike
I totally agree Disney should go back to California where they belong.Disney ideas seem to work well in California and that’s where they need to stay.
Ruthe
So very well said. 👍
Karen
Why are you so much against Disney? Are you against people enjoying themselves? Disney’s a bit expensive, but the time spent in enjoyment is well worth it. I’d really miss Disney, if they had to leave Florida. And its all about the governor’s irritation that a Disney official disagreed with him, & the news made it public.
Aaron
Lol Diane will never be able to leave Florida. They’ve spent waaaay to much money and time on infrastructure to just head somewhere else. Its not like you can just put the castle in your suitcase.
Ed
No, but the Federal Government can make Florida reimburse Disney for any monetary losses. This could include the billions put into property improvements. It would bankrupt Florida for generations.
peterparker22
Desantis cares about kids in his state. He passed laws that show this. Disney does not–they rejected the pro-children laws and spoke out openly saying they were against them. Since Disney has made it clear they are have made an about-face on their original 50 year old mandates and are now anti-children, they should be thoroughly inspected and held to a VERY high standard to prove to FL, the country, and the entire world that they have the safety and best interests of children at heart.
Desantis is doing this in every legal way he can, and those of use who care about children are applauding him with every move.
Sidenote: we ALL know that moving out of FL is almost completely impossible for Disney. They can start a new location, but they will not be leaving FL. Therefore they are responsible to leaders the people of FL elected to have transp options inspected to ensure they meet FL state safety standards. They should have been responsible to this higher authority all along, but they weren’t, they maintained thier own internal reporting of all incidents through the Reedy Creek Improv District, and had no oversight.
Please do the research-the above is ALL true.
Vicki
DeSantis cares only cares about straight white kids!
peterparker22
Nah. He cares about all kids having parents (of any color or creed) to be directly involved in every aspect of the decisions they make. That’s pro-ALL kids.
Say what?
WHAT IS THE ‘DON’T SAY GAY’ LAW?
Florida’s “Parental Rights in Education” legislation bans instruction about sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade.
Read the law, process it and then give an informed statement
Maybride
If he really cared about kids he would do something about gun violence in this state. He would also do more to support teachers rather than handcuff them. As a former educator, I find his politics frightening and would never teach here. ps – I love going to Disney and even have an annual pass!@
peterparker22
Frightening? How is protecting kids and giving parents the authority to teach them and guide them at the youngest ages “frightening”?
What is frightening is that my son with boy DNA (provable easily through actual well-researched SCIENCE) would be cultivated to somehow think of himself as a girl or anything other than “boy”. Same with my girls.
If I want to teach them those things, I am free in our society to do that, but I CERTAINLY don’t want my kids teacher of the WD company doing it without my permission.
Your ethics and morals are exactly backwards.
rp
boy DNA
open a science book already.
its not that straightforward
peterparker22
I did, and it ABSOLUTELY IS.
Al
Exercising your constitutional right gets you in trouble?
John
Oh yeah. The same kinds of laws that the Islamic Republic of Iran and Saudis Arabia have against Gay people. But hey he’s “protecting children” . Maybe you don’t like freedom of speech and should move to Iran
Values
WHAT IS THE ‘DON’T SAY GAY’ LAW?
Florida’s “Parental Rights in Education” legislation bans instruction about sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade.
Please read the law and process it.
It’s not against what you said.
Values
I want my children in Kinder learning to read and doing math not being experts in sexuality at 5 yrs old. I can see reading is not your forte my free speech friend.
Dl
Cares about children and threatens to build a prison by dw… hmmm
John swanberg
Desantis isn’t pro kid number cause of death of children is guns and her just made even easier to get them by not requiring permits anymore
Charles Esters
If you are a human being you would understand if they close or Disney leaves Florida Orlando will no longer be a tourist destination anymore. The city will die just because someone spoke up to a very short man.
peterparker22
[Inset loud guffawing here] If Dis somehow found a way to close the parks, there would be for-sale sign on them. Every other entertainment company in the country would be circling, waiting to snap them up. How amazing would it be for FL if 4 different well-managed companies each purchaded a park??? It would be BEAUTIFUL for Orlando and all of the state of FL.
peterparker22
This is a silly comment attacking a silly viewpoint. Why bother?
peterparker22
But doing it with no obvious rebuttal to his statement…helpful!
Ceasar
Obviously you dont leave in Orlando and you dont care. But aa typical Republican you like the abuse of authority.
peterparker22
Not helpful or true. Way to leverage a personal attack instead of responding with insight.
peterparker22
Super dumb idea. Keep it legal and ethical (read my comments below.)
Disney needs to be brought into conformity with FL state safety regulations and laws. Up to this point they have been playing with an unfair advantage against most competitors in that sector.
BlueCollarCritic
No that would be punishing guests who have done nothing wrong. What DeSantis is doing will be more than sufficient to make Bob Iger think twice, maybe more, before having Disney stick its nose into state business again
pb
Respectfully, Mr Govenor: Leave Disney alone!!!! You’re simply making yourself look foolish by trying to take down the biggest tax payer in the state, plus the largest tourist attraction bringing billions of dollars to our state every year. Go try and win votes somewhere else, I can assure you this bone you have with Disney has become personal and it’s destroying your passion and love for America.
Watchman
And that’s why you’re a moron
Steve
Brilliant! And watch 64 billion in revenue go to another state just because Ronny got his little feelings hurt
Phil Mateleven
Good idea. Let DeathSantis lost 50,000 jobs end all tourism is Floriduh and see how long he lasts in office.
S.k.
Just think thin skin DeSantis picked on you
It’s obvious you don’t Ike Disey
miacraig
ridiculous to keep biting the hand that’s responsible for turning florida into one of the top 3 tourist destinations in the world! you people have lost all sight of common sense !!!!!
Jim
Lol. Do you really think anyone doesn’t know you are joking?
Scott
Just to be clear, you are advocating for thousands of people to lose their jobs at Disney and surrounding businesses along with billions lost in tax revenue.
Seems like a great idea.
Gloria
Sure, why not lose millions in tourist dollars. Hope the residents of Florida are prepared to pay big time for DeSantis’s vengeance. Ha! Godd luck!
Ron
You are against a lot of jobs. Not a wise plan.
Ferenc
Calla mierda!
KG
I agree !! They need to pay up, its NOT a free ride Disney.
Kad
Yes ! GO DeSantis. Why shouldn’t Disney pay there fair share !!!! After they gouge people on ticket prices
Bueller
Sorry to tell you but the only people it will be squealing is you. when your taxes of went through the roof. Disney is the largest employer in the state of Florida. It also is the largest tax revenue. So Disney has a right to have an educated opinion. unlike yours. like I have a right to an educated opinion. oh and to Mr. DeSantis, gay gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay.
Erik
That makes no sense; Disney is a major employer and driver of revenue for the state. Make it impossible for people to visit and Florida shoots itself in the foot.
CYSATX
Younclearly don’t live in FL. Sure….bankrupt Disney, see what happens to FL. They are the largest single-payer of taxes in central FL. No big deal, right? You should, instead, be very concerned with DeSantis’s authoritarian power grab. A Governor is not a King, as a President is not a King. We do not live in an autocratic society.
Victor
That’s why everything is the way it is wow what insite.
Desantisacuck
Lol Disney would just move operations out of state. Disney can survive without Florida. Florida can’t survive without tourism.
Carol
To the rest of the country out there, when FL starts doing something so stupid, remember, there’s Disneyland in CA and it’s pretty wonderful too.
Per
And the purpose of that would be….?
SS
If I was desantis, I would shut down all Disney transit, blockade all the entrances, raise all toll roads to $100, and charge everyone using Orlando Airport $1000.
Make Disney squeal..
Aaron
I’m all for punishing Disney. They’ve made everything so expensive, they’ve pushed out the common middle class family from going to Disney World! Not to mention, why would we allow a private corporation to have self governanc?I know why Walt needed it back in the 60s and 70s but the Disney company is not the same. They’ve replaced magic for money.
Kad
I totally agree !!!!
Karen
Florida’s Senate needs to pay Disney for the Monorail system. Disney doesn’t deserve to be punished so harshly for expressing a political belief.
Chris B
You dont get it Karen. Because of how Reedy Creek was set up when Disney began in Orlando they never had to pay the state a dime for anything. Im pretty sure Universal and Seaworld pay the state. Now Disney just needs to put on their big boy pants and do what other companies do in the state. Florida doesnt need to pay Disney anything.
CYSATX
You literally don’t know what you’re talking about. 1. They are the largest singe taxpayer in central FL. They also pay for many of the public services in that area, which the government will now have to pay. That’s funny… Not a dime.
peterparker22
FL did not “take over” the transpo systems at WDW–they have confirmed the right of the state of FL to INSPECT them for safety based on the laws of the state of FL.
The article is suggesting that upon inspecting them, the state of FL inspectors could deem them unsafe and cause them to cease operation until the issue is corrected.
peterparker22
Desantis so far has pursued LEGAL solutions to the illegal and unethical structure of the Reedy Creek Improvement District (which had been set up in the first place ONLY because the state of FL believed that W. Disney’s view of EPCOT would be an actual community of rented or purchased dwellings with a construct allowing the “experimental community” to actively and continually go into each home to make changes like technologically advanced lightbulbs, or a newly designed power structure or larger community changes like compehesive solar panels or transit options to attempt to better connnect the people living there to their place of work –this was what people were expected to sign up for when rented or purchased a home with EPCOT. The moment EPCOT became an entertainment location only, the RCID was instantly illegal and unethical, but no one went back and revisited it to make the area fall once again under the safety and regulatory authority of the state of FL)
Trying to lash out at the WD company in illegal ways would be completely counter-productive to the goal–bringing them into confirmity with state laws and safety regs and properly utilizing the land surrounding the parks that was previously managed by the RCID. KEEP IT LEGAL.
peterparker22
You did not explain or clarify your own argument, nor how mine was wrong.
When Walt propsed EPCOT, it was a living space, not a business space. Just like every HOA in the country, governing the people within it. The moment it ceased to be that, it did not have a proper role of governing a living space. Then it became an arm of the business space, but governing on its own as though it was a living space. At that point it became illegal. (Look the history up. I did.)
Scott
Actually Reedy Creek was the definition of legal.
What DeSantis has done is the definition of a bill of attaner which is illegal.
Terry
Disney just pack up an move an tell FL dictator to shove it up hiss a ..
Roger
Ha! Ha! People on here suggesting that Disney pack up and leave Florida are hilarious. Disney couldn’t afford to leave Florida. If they closed WDW down, their stockholders would take a huge hit and it would reverberate throughout the company. It would destroy what we know as Disney. If Disney had simply stayed out of politics, where it has no business, and stayed in it’s lane of Entertainment, there would be no problems. Disney is sleeping in the bed it made. Best they could do is make a public announcement that they will no longer participate in any political arguments and will have, nor make, any political statements or support any political groups. That would give the control of their parks a better chance of being left alone. There are too many parents in the State of Florida and all over the country who were offended by Disney’s stance of supporting the teaching of sex or transgender information to any young children really stirred the hornets nest. Blame is ALL on Disney.
Zach
So in other words do what we want or else your company suffers.
Sounds like that socialistic tyranny you and others scream about.
peterparker22
That was all you had to say in response to a well-written, detailed comment? “Do what we want…?”
OP Roger’s posted stated his case beautifully, including “Disney couldn’t afford to leave Florida.”
“Disney is sleeping in the bed it made.”
“…public announcement…”
“…offended by Disney’s stance…”
“..supporting the teaching of sex or transgender information to any young children…”
You could have addressed any of it. Nope. Ya didnt.
[Sarcastic voice] Well played, brother. Well played.
Ike
Desanus has torpedoed his short little fat legs right out from under himself. His hopes of Presidency, long gone. He has lost too many donors and this was before he tripled down on his hubris. Desanus is not very bright. The House of Mouse is going to own him again and again. They are using the best lawyers ever, Desanus is using public servants…the C and D students of law school.
Slam
Most Disney guests don’t come from Florida. You do know if Disney was not there, your property taxes, sales taxes, income taxes would increase to fill the void. I lived in Nevada, we had no state income tax because of all of the tax revenue that the casinos paid. If that revenue disappeared, where do you think the money will come from?
peterparker22
This seems true until you unpack the economics issues. In your example the casinos in Nevada provided tax revenue. 4 things happen and continue to:
1. The people in the state (especially in the vicinity of the casinos) get poorer when casinos are installed. This is proven country-wide, in every single sector.
2. The casinos leverage the taxes they pay into influence with lawmakers. After all, they are the largest taxpayers in the state.
3. The lawmakers make laws that promote the welfare of the casinos, not the individual state residents. The laws the benefit the casinos usually increase the income of the casinos causing them to pay more taxes (which money is then used to further the cause of the casinos in a self-perpetuating machine)
4. The residents generally assume a hard life would be even HARDER if the casinos were not there. In reality, the opposite is true.
Disney historically has wielded ridiculous self-perpetuating influence in the state of FL historically. Those who understand the above economic facts recognize that the taxes they pay and the influence WD wields is to the benefit primarily of the WD company, and the people of FL have an overpriced, if not very nice, place to come for a day of entertainment.
The state of FL is experiencing a massive economic boom, and by ALL counts the residency in the state is shooting up. This is all AT THE SAME TIME AS the FL leadership is bringing DIS into conformity.
Have you asked yourselves why businesses would flock to a state that you all are describing as oppressive to business?
[Whispering] “…because they know it’s now a FAIR playing field, and the decisions of state leadership are BETTER for business, not worse.”
Bill
Disney is a multibillion dollar company. They spoke out against the Florida law because they determined it was in their best financial interests to do so. Reedy Creek had to change because the day to day cost was shown to be too much in the event of an extended park closure. As an entertainment giant, they have to stay at the edge of an evolving society and Covid advanced that line. Eiger stepped aside so a principled penny pincher could do so while it could be blamed on Covid, then it would seem he came back as secretly planned once the company could afford to be creative again.
peterparker22
Your takeaways on the Eiger return are pretty insightful. I have thought recently that he may have seen the storm coming, and this may have been his plan all along.
Karen Higgins
I thought this was not a political fight?
Joe
Desantis will lose that lawsuit Disney filed against him because although he denies everything there saying about he is retailiating his dumb azz wrote about in his book that he is. Heard there moving to Georgia to. They’ll take 80,000 jobs with them and Florida will lose from the tourist.
Adam Efimoff
In Los Angeles during the mid-1950s, teenager Jim Stark is arrested and taken to the juvenile division of a police station for public intoxication. At the station he crosses paths with John “Plato” Crawford, who was brought in for killing a litter of puppies, and Judy, who was brought in for curfew violation. The three each separately reveal their innermost frustrations to the officers; all three of them suffer from problems at home:
Jim feels betrayed and anguished by his constantly bickering parents, Frank and Carol, but even more so by his father’s timid attitude and failure to stand up to Carol; the issues are further complicated by Frank’s interfering mother. His frustrations are made manifest to officer Ray Fremick when Jim is released to their custody.
Judy is convinced that her father ignores her because she is no longer a little girl, so she dresses up in racy clothes to get attention, which only causes her father to call her a “dirty tramp”.
Plato’s father abandoned his family when he was a toddler, and his mother is often away from home, leaving Plato in the care of his housekeeper.
On the way to his first day at Dawson High, Jim again meets Judy and offers her a ride. Seemingly unimpressed by Jim at first, she declines and is instead picked up by her “friends”, a gang of delinquents led by Buzz Gunderson. Jim is shunned by the rest of the student body but is befriended by Plato, who comes to idolize Jim as a father figure.
After a field trip to Griffith Observatory, Buzz provokes and challenges Jim to a knife fight. Jim beats Buzz in the knife fight, knocking the switchblade out of his hand and pressing the blade of his own knife against Buzz’s neck, and then throws it away. To preserve his status as gang leader, Buzz suggests stealing some cars to have a “Chickie Run” at a seaside cliff.[7] At home, Jim ambiguously asks his father for advice about defending one’s honor in a dangerous situation, but Frank advises him against confrontation of any kind. That night, during the chickie run, Buzz plunges to his death when the strap on his jacket sleeve becomes entangled with his door-latch lever, preventing him from exiting the car in time. As police approach, the gang flees, leaving Judy behind, but Jim patiently persuades her to leave with him and Plato.
Jim confronts his father while his mother watches.
Jim later confides to his parents his involvement in the crash and considers turning himself in. When Carol declares they are moving again, Jim protests and pleads with Frank to stand up for him; but when Frank refuses, Jim attacks him in frustration, then storms off to the police station to confess, only to be turned away by the desk sergeant. Jim drives back home, and finds Judy waiting for him. She apologizes for her prior treatment of him due to peer pressure, and the two begin to fall in love. Agreeing that they will never return to their respective homes, Jim suggests they visit an old deserted mansion Plato told him about.
Meanwhile, Plato is intercepted by three members of Buzz’s gang, who are convinced that Jim betrayed them to the police. They steal Plato’s address book and go off after Jim; Plato retrieves his mother’s gun and leaves to warn Jim and Judy, finding them at the mansion. The three new friends act out a fantasy as a family. Plato then falls asleep, and Jim and Judy leave to explore the mansion, where they share their first kiss and voice their love. Buzz’s gang find and wake up Plato, who, frightened and distraught, shoots and wounds one of the gang. When Jim returns, he attempts to restrain Plato, but he flees, accusing Jim of leaving him
Learn Something
No. You are horribly wrong. They have a right just like you or I to speak out against what our government is doing. Our Constitution protects that right. If you think any of the repercussions DeSantis is doing is Ok, then you need to go back and learn how our Constitutional Republic (ie, NOT a democratic government) is supposed to work. Disney is 100% in the right here.
Scott
Love how people say corporations should stay out of politics but never seem to mind when those same corporations donate money to campaigns of those they support.
CYSATX
Wait…so Disney should stay out of politics, but not EVERY other company that dumps unlimited amounts of money into Super PACs (thanks Citizens United)? So in other words, as long as It’s a conservative run companyz influence politics all you want, but by God if you don’t toe the line for the GOP, we will abuse our power to hurt your business? (Also anti conservative). Lol. Lord the two faces…. I can’t.
Amy
Suddenly, skyliners everywhere.
SSG
Wait until the little man (?) tries to silence you. He is trampling all over free speech like the dictator he thinks he should be. Four years is a long time for him to strip rights away from all of us.
He is a horrible governor…wake up.
ElMarco
DeInSanetis has made it clear he has a vengeful vendetta against Disney. It’s purely punitive and he’s stated as much. Same guy who has banned books, for all intents and purposes banned abortion, banned girls from discussing puberty, all in the manner of fascists before him.
Disney operated within the confines of an agreement it made decades ago with Florida, then acted legally in accordance with Florida’s Sunshine Laws while trouncing Herr Ronnie at his own game.
He’s already decent millions of taxpayers dollars on this vendetta while ignoring our infrastructure, schools, healthcare, property insurance costs etc etc, the real things that affect Floridians.
I pity the nation if he were to be president some day. Goodbye liberties, hello authoritarianism.
TheOne
I totally agree.
Deb
If Desantis cared so much about the children, he would ensure that good teachers are recruited and retained in his state and also tighten gun laws which kill students in his state everyday. Those are the issues most affecting our children.
Deb
Desantis is throwing a tantrum because he can’t get his way. In the same way he’s trying to indoctrinate the students of Florida and the uneducated, he’s trying to impose his beliefs on corporate Disney. His freaking dictatorship stance can only operate in Florida because he has the judges on his side. He is an angry spoilt child who could never be president. I can’t wait to see Mickey Mouse puke all over him. Desantis must go!!!
peterparker22
Indoctrinating? The law passed by the elected reps of the state of FL is exactly the OPPOSITE of indoctrinating.
How is protecting kids by giving parents the authority to teach them and guide them at the youngest ages “indoctrinating”?
“Indoctrination” would be my elementary-age son with boy DNA (provable easily through actual well-researched SCIENCE) would be cultivated through the ed system of FL to somehow think of himself as a girl or anything other than “boy”. Same with my girls. Or be attracted at that age to ANY gender, let alone the same gender as his actual DNA.
If I want to teach them those things, I am free in our society to do that, but I CERTAINLY don’t want my kids teacher or the WD company doing it without my permission.
Your ethics and morals are exactly backwards.
dee
what I dont understand is how there are so many people who never took biology classes?
Was biology not taught in schools in Florida? How can a HEALTHY and well adjusted child be made to think of themselves as the opposite gender?
That’s just not possible. To understand gender dysmorphia you study the BRAIN.
We need adult biology/psychology classes offered to those who want to understand how human life actually works, both mentally and physically.
And why are conservatives so frightened of girls learning about their bodies??? Can’t discuss menstruation, that’s insane!
peterparker22
Are you suggesting there are only 2 genders? And anyone who thinks outside that binary box needs to have thier head looked at? Yet you refer in your post critically to “conservatives.” Interesting…
Im not “frightened” at all. But with someone as crazy and confused as you and other posters on this site, I don’t just WANT the freedom to teach my OWN kids about the birds and the bees in my own timing, I INSIST that YOU dont attempt to teach them those things.
Menstruation? Ha. “Turning Red” is disgusting in so many ways, and not a topic fit for a kids national movie release. We’ve done a fine job teaching our own kids about the topic, as should every parent, and dont need any help from the company that brings my tots stories about Disney princess.
Disney went from fun, lighthearted animation under Walt, to seedy and rebellious under Eisner, and now attempting to tackle tough parenting topics (as though parents in general are useless and cant do this themselves) under Eiger/Chapek. I had kids because I want them, love them, and fully expect to parent them. Disney’s foolish attempts to “help” have done anything but.
You come across to me as a little nuts, so stay away from my kids (or any kids, for that matter).
Joann Accetta
I’m losing all respect for DeSantis I need the tourism to come here my business relies on it Mr. bully head I want to make a difference where it really matters
peterparker22
Tourism in FL is here to stay. DIS as a tourist attraction is the result of the pro-biz, pro-tourism state leadership, not the reason for it.
If DIS sold, other well-run companies would buy up the properties and FL businesses and citizens would benefit greatly.
But we all know DIS is not leaving FL.
William
Sad little man. He’s this seasons Scott Walker. Remember him? I didn’t think so…
Slam
I do, because I live in Wisconsin. I hated him so much. We are still living with the boneheaded decisions he made. He gutted the education system. I’ve worked in higher ed for 30 years in different states. He torpedoed college enrollment and high school graduation which was already very low (under 50% in some counties). If students drop out of high school, there is no way for them to go to college.
Llo
I remember him. He initiated school choice for all students. The horror. Imagine putting children first. Whereas the left just wants to groom your children . Disney should have stayed silent on the parental bill which irurscts children from the deviant left. So simple. SMH.
peterparker22
Oy. So horrible when these governors get elected and do what the people put them there to do, including “…Protect KIDS???”
What an awful idea.
Brett
Great he was to ruin Disney world even more ridiculous tbh.
Delight
Desantis is a moron, if he really wanted to damage Disney, just blockade the front and destroy all the entrance roads.
peterparker22
If they dont submit to state safety and regulatory inspections and oversight by the Florida state reps elected by the peopleof FL, thats exactly what he should do.
Wolfbeirger
Disney and the Florida lawmakers need to redo the 50 yo agreement made to help lure Disney to Florida. Both sides need to work on it but it has to be updated.
Also, Desantis needs to stop making stupid statements and decisions and just do normal governor stuff.
Mnnb
Disney is a major source of revenue for Florida. In this fight, the people will pay the price. Putting Fl’s economy in jeopardy speaks volume as to what are the priorities of the Gov. All this began because Disney stated that “all” are welcomed ? What a horrible company. !? Seriously WTF.
peterparker22
Somebody told you this, right? You are just using a line from someone trying to fool you.
The economic isse seems true until you unpack it. Taking casinos for example: 4 things happen and continue to when states bring in casinos:
1. The people in the state (especially in the vicinity of the casinos) get poorer when casinos are installed. This is proven country-wide, in every single sector.
2. The casinos leverage the taxes they pay into influence with lawmakers. After all, they are the largest taxpayers in the state.
3. The lawmakers make laws that promote the welfare of the casinos, not the individual state residents. The laws the benefit the casinos usually increase the income of the casinos causing them to pay more taxes (which money is then used to further the cause of the casinos in a self-perpetuating machine)
4. The residents generally assume a hard life would be even HARDER if the casinos were not there. In reality, the opposite is true.
Disney historically has wielded ridiculous self-perpetuating influence in the state of FL historically. Those who understand the above economic facts recognize that the taxes they pay and the influence WD wields is to the benefit primarily of the WD company, and the people of FL have an overpriced, if not very nice, place to come for a day of entertainment.
The state of FL is experiencing a massive economic boom within the last year, and by ALL counts the residency in the state is shooting up. This is all AT THE SAME TIME AS the FL leadership is bringing DIS into conformity.
Have you asked yoursef why businesses would flock to a state that you all are describing as oppressive to business?
[Whispering] “…because they know it’s now a FAIR playing field, and the decisions of state leadership are BETTER for business, not worse.”
Karen
The 1st Amendment to the USA Constitution gives all people freedom of speech. It didn’t: list any exceptions.
Kim
DeSantis comes across as volatile, unstable, aggressive and immature. IF he ever had any kind of good reputation, it’s gone now. He’s more of a joke than anything. The epitome of “sore loser”.
Tom McMahon
I see no reason why Disney should be treated special. They should be the same as everyone else in the state. I can’t make my own inspections and have my regulations that I write ! I don’t get tax breaks why should a Billion dollar Corp. !?
RSV
They don’t get tax breaks. There is plenty of info about special districts in Florida you can look up.
Tom McMahon
The actions that Desantis is doing is not new. There wasn’t enough votes to do it before. It is something that should have been done long ago. Disney should be on a level playing ground just like everyone else.
Paul
Disneyland in California have self government or government oversight?
Jennifer
Forcing our representatives to create legislation impacting Floridians long after he retires, Desantis will cut Florida’s, & Federal, tax revenues.
By stifling Big Businesses’ autonomy, enacting laws & regulations on whims, he can close down a major tourism industry indefinitely, much like a hurricane could decimate it.
With job losses, small businesses disappear, major businesses will close existing FL branches or build locations & operation centers elsewhere. Increased costs borne by consumers create recessions and social insecurity. No one will want to come here to live or visit, due to increased warmer weather, the invasive plants, insects, and wildlife, threat of Wildfires, or severe weather, lack of sustainable housing, jobs, etc.
He blames others for inflation & poor economic conditions. Is this Republican Party leadership?
The Republican party used to represent big business as America was conceived as a republic, allowing free trade, under a DEMOCRACY. government income, so that we prosper and the government is able to defend AMERICAN CITIZENS. Through all service branches.
peterparker22
Haha, you are truly funny. That is quite the nuclear winter argument you make.
Elsewhere in these messages, we have detailed that taxes paid by monopolizing corps are always leveraged to increase thier own income and benefit, and rarely if ever the benefit of the people in the state, other than providing an entertaining distraction. This self perpetuates thier power, income, corporate benefits, all while they point to all the taxes they pay and say, “We can do what we want bc you cant afford not to have us.” Casinos are a classic case-in-point.
We also described that if DIS closes the parks, they would sell. If they sell, every major entertainment co would circle waiting to snap them up. How amazing for Orlando and FL if 4 diff companies bought and began to operate the DIS parks? New features, rides, and fun, all with 4 new companies to enjoy, and [hopefully] none of the drama or price gouging!
Lastly, we detailed that while the state has been battling DIS, businesses and families have been RACING to relocate to FL, making this the most economic improvement and tax revenue the state has ever seen. The business boom in historically liberal Miami is a great example of this, and is veing duplicated across the state.
If the DIS fight was projected to be the start of a business-oppressing era in FL, why would any biz come? They wouldnt, they would pick up and move.
Everyone (except a few on this site, I guess) recognizes that the end of the DIS oppression in FL is the start of a brilliant new economic future for the state of FL.
Leilani
How hypocritical and childish. This is a personal vendetta because a child man can’t have his way. Why is it that our Florida government fights for businesses rights to not require masks or vaccinations, right to not serve people of the LGBT community but… if a business has contrary beliefs to our dictatorship, they use OUR tax dollars to harass them. The Supreme Court decided that corporations are people too, when they allowed them to contribute ungodly amounts to political campaigns. However, now they have opposing views they are harassed? Disney is the largest employer in Florida, and the largest destination for tourism. This hurts us all. Censorship of free speech . So much wrong with this whole situation, Santis is a Man Child and a bully.
peterparker22
Wow, you are quite the trainwreck. See elsewhere in the comments for rebuttals against every point you unsuccessfully attempted to make. Oy.
Mark
I am glad that out state of Florida is running so smooth and everyone is living a great life, with no homeliness. That our governor can focus on controlling one company
What next pay to ride the monorail? Come on elected officials do your job
Maybride
If he really cared about kids he would do something about gun violence in this state. He would also do more to support teachers rather than handcuff them. As a former educator, I find his politics frightening and would never teach here. ps – I love going to Disney and even have an annual pass!@
Shaun
Government attacking private business, the only thing that can come from this is bad, bad, bad.
That’s why Florida is the joke of the country.
Good luck, the rest of the entire country is behind Disney 100%
Dennis
This is America. We have freedom to voice our displeasure with our government. DeSantis must believe in totalitarianism.
Disagree with him and he’ll destroy you.
Chris Wood
Who knows maybe this will get Disney to start fixing everything. Get the buses back running again.
NADINE YOUTA
I’m so happy that I’m me , not Sir DeSantis.
The worth thing of life may be is to be homeless , and had see also people who may had been at Disney . See those in their astral form, see them so close to me … see and feel only their pain ..My past torture, the real evil action were hide at that time … many year ago.
Today ,The good thing is to heal , by God and the providence power .however many year passed. Be thankful and filled my life with respect …it is possible …
I had ear about Disney but I never been.
If we can control self and understand how to stop our own shadow be activated by another soul , the solution and result must flow easily .
Thanks a lot
Adam
I don’t live there, but does Florida micromanage other businesses?
Anne
FL governor is whacked! They need to approach him quietly from the back, slip a straitjacket on him and move him into the Disney Insane asylum
Darrell
This site has more fake crap than CNN , They didn’t take over the system! Just Inspections for safety that Disney has failed too do
Rick
The copyright to their mouse logo should have expired years ago. Disney is used to having politicos locked in their back pocket. Refreshing to see FL finally standing up to them.
Diana Prince
The real Peter Parker wouldn’t be writing all of this. Banning books, abortion and sexual education is wrong . An educated person can make better choices.
Having kids commit suicide because they cant talk about their feelings of a different sexual orientation or an unwanted, untimely pregnancy with an educator (that hopefully has the compassion and integrity of caring for their student) is inhumane. My body my choice.
Morals , manners , compassion , tolerance, the value of life and religion starts at home. Evidently DeSantis had a sad strict childhood or the aliens forgot to remove the probe from his rear end. I bet no one in his family has been in WDW…or have they? Hmmm how many lawyers can Disney afford? Peter go crawl back underneath the rock you came from.
Faith
Disney doesn’t need Desantis or Florida. They need Disney. If I were them, I’d pull out of that ungrateful place. It’s clear that it’s a witch hunt. Get em where it hurts, in their pockets. Other states would be ecstatic to have that revenue. Go Disney, all the way!!!
Tim
If I were I charge of Disney,I would close the doors, lock the gates, lay off all employees and then listen to the whole state of Florida squeal
Michael
Desantis is a big bully hope u loose president leave Disney alone
Michael
Just leave Disney alone
Doug
DeSsantis is an ignorant buffoon. I really hope Disney wins there lawsuit. I loved to go to Florida but as long as parents can tell teachers what to teach. They’re all gay
Liz
So looks like all we have to say is “Gay” to get the governor to do something..if only all of this energy could be focused on one of the biggest issues in FL, which is keeping our kids safe every day in school..maybe instead of protesting to stop guns they should hold signs calling him gay and something will actually get done. Leave Disney alone it’s one of the reasons we have tourism here and it’s the happiest place on earth..just let everyone be happy. Put that energy on actually doing some good and change where it needs to be.
Mike Balkcom
Disney Corporation does not raise children , they seek to change children into Freeks. Parents raise children not an entertainment company from California.
Mike
Disney is having problems in Florida because they left the entrainment business and entered politics. They are now trying to raise your children. DISNEY asked for this. Some times you get what you ask for.
Christophoros D Koutselas Katakouzenos.MXII
That’s because people are too lazy to follow Family Values. When they raise children guaranteed. So when people go into the park they misbehave and they cause a lot of trouble to those guests who are impaired. And the chili pepper Governor he’s so pissed off because he don’t get a free ride.
Jww57
Want to watch the government foul up a “Wet Dream”, put them in charge of something…
Mark
I only hope Disney files another few lawsuits against Ronda Santis and Florida for their interference with a private company’s operations. So many things Florida needs to work on, this is the one thing they can pass with little discussion
Mike
Many Thanks Ron DeSantis ! Common Sense and doing Right . The Left have turned the Vote and Taxation into Organized Crime . Florida today is a guiding light that means to Stomp Out that and return the Trust the Democratic Party has virtually destroyed across America , Bravo Ron DeSantis …. !
Joe
Disney should announce that they will be closing for a month of maintenance. Layoff about 60,000 of their 75,000 employees and keep the others for maintenance. Then show FL the $75 billion impact on the state
MQuinn
As far as I know, only one person walks on water and it’s NOT Desantis !!
MFH
DeSantis is Americas Putin.
Matthew Brewster
This means MoRon could shut down ALL the transport systems. This situation was amusing up to now, but this has now become a WAR!!!
Z
Y’all know everything on this site is fake right? 🤣🤣🤣
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